N. Korean doomsdaymachine??

Back in WWII, Japan floated paper balloons in the jet stream, to Oregon . So what if Kim puts a few RR cars of certain metals over his biggest A Bomb, in a pit, and sets it off? There' not much we can do, against this plume of radioactivity!

99% of the fallout would settle out in the Pacific, far before reaching the U.S. west coast. The large majority of that fallout would settle out over North Korea, and its territorial waters... ruining a food source for decades.

The remaining 1% that reaches the U.S. west coast could be effectively neutralized by a tinfoil helmet.

originally posted by: madmac5150
99% of the fallout would settle out in the Pacific, far before reaching the U.S. west coast. The large majority of that fallout would settle out over North Korea, and its territorial waters... ruining a food source for decades.

The remaining 1% that reaches the U.S. west coast could be effectively neutralized by a tinfoil helmet.

You have interesting figures. Can you supply a link to them?

a reply to: Violater1

It is simple physics. The radioactive fallout is made up of heavy element isotopes. Those particles will bond with dust, smoke, etc. and fall quickly to the ground.

If fallout were as far traveled as the OP suggests, the eastern seaboard would be uninhabitable from nuclear testing in Nevada.

The damage to N. Korea would far surpass any harm inflicted to the continental U.S.

originally posted by: carpooler
Back in WWII, Japan floated paper balloons in the jet stream, to Oregon . So what if Kim puts a few RR cars of certain metals over his biggest A Bomb, in a pit, and sets it off? There' not much we can do, against this plume of radioactivity!

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a reply to: carpooler

If Lil fat boy watches the jet stream, his radiation gets here ina week! One big Nev. test irradiated Illinois, but it was a clean A Bomb. Back then Strawberries, became red hot. I see a Panama Canal Zone across Japan, too! This will be a no go strip for years! a reply to: madmac5150

originally posted by: carpooler
Back in WWII, Japan floated paper balloons in the jet stream, to Oregon . So what if Kim puts a few RR cars of certain metals over his biggest A Bomb, in a pit, and sets it off? There' not much we can do, against this plume of radioactivity!

Really? That is your thread? That is it?

originally posted by: kurthall

originally posted by: carpooler
Back in WWII, Japan floated paper balloons in the jet stream, to Oregon . So what if Kim puts a few RR cars of certain metals over his biggest A Bomb, in a pit, and sets it off? There' not much we can do, against this plume of radioactivity!

Really? That is your thread? That is it?

It's like replying to a comment left on the wall of a restroom in a bar...

...for great doom porn, call 867-5309...

a reply to: madmac5150

Or even worse, when you see "For a good time, be here at [insert time/date]" on the wall and you look at your watch and it's that time and Sea Bass walks in.

A better thread would be discussing what would happen if he detonated a nuke high up in space in the range of GPS, sats etc.

Now that would be a good thread as that risk, how easy it would be and the continued radiation belt it would create would damage quite a few sats as they swung into range for some time to come....

a reply to: MuonToGluon

Not only that, the charged up ionosphere will prevent communication in that whole area from satelites towards the ground (and planes).

Even if the birds are hardened against, the protection fades after some years in space. There is a very interesting book, everyone interested should read it. I got a used english hardcover copy for less than 3$ from the USA shipped to Germany.

"Space Wars: The First Six Hours of World War III, A War Game Scenario"

William B. Scott is a retired Rocky Mountain bureau chief for Aviation Week & Space Technology magazine and a former U.S. Air Force flight-test engineer. He served with the National Security Agency and as aircrew on nuclear sampling missions. Michael J. Coumatos is a former U.S. Navy test pilot, the former U.S. Space Command director of wargaming, and a former National Security Agency counterterrorism adviser. With the help of bestselling author William J. Birnes, these renowned experts have joined forces to grippingly depict how the first hours of World War III

Although it´s a bit cheesy in the story, it´s exactly what this wargame topic is about. NK detonating a nuclear device in the upper atmosphere to produce a wide ranged EMP over the pacific ocean.

There is a second part from the same authors

Counterspace: The Next Hours of World War III

Very interesting, also the (declassified) technologies described in the book.

originally posted by: MuonToGluon
A better thread would be discussing what would happen if he detonated a nuke high up in space in the range of GPS, sats etc.

Now that would be a good thread as that risk, how easy it would be and the continued radiation belt it would create would damage quite a few sats as they swung into range for some time to come....

Not to mention this is a much more realistic possibility.

a reply to: madmac5150

Oh, sure, and volcanic never circles the earth and some of the fallout from Fukushima (which would have been mild compared to the OP's projections) did not reach the US west coast) did reach the west coast and vast stretches of the Pacific inbetween.

As to your advice on tin hats, should they be made with a sun shade or simply be skull caps?

a reply to: Aliensun

Some of the fallout reaching the west coast was negligible increases barely above background. It would've had to increase many times more to even approach dangerous levels. And that was the 2nd worst nuclear disaster in history. With a sensitive enough detector you can fart and someone on the other side of the world will read it. That doesn't mean they're in danger of being asphyxiated due to the methane increase.

a reply to: carpooler
I've got more simpler and dirtier methods than that but the little one might have people reading these posts and I don't want to give him any ideas.

I doubt Kim will risk precious Nuke in a rocket, when he can bury one with box cars of certain metals , and makes a Doomsday Machine Machine! a reply to: crayzeed