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White Supremacists are not Nazis.

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posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 04:13 PM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: TheTory

Of course. And for some, words are somehow violence, and can be responded to with actual violence.

But in the context of what Gryphon asked, I don't think one can reasonably draw the conclusion that he was equating hating Nazis with going out and physically attacking them.


Indeed I wasn't. I don't even think we should hate Nazis.

I think we should be aware of what they are, what they say they want, and what they're willing to do about it.

I think that there is a difference between attackers and defenders.

I think it's absurd to compare what happened in Charlottesville with Berkeley or even Washington DC.

Those who broke the law by doing violence, vandalism, etc. were apprehended and received their just rewards. ETA: If they haven't, they need to.

What happened in Charlottesville was different ... of a different order.

But I can say "violence used for political purposes is wrong" all day long ... and a few of the magpies will still croak.

Thanks for your words, BTW.
Very much appreciated.
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posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 04:14 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: Bwomp83

Here are some American Nazi Party

Now what?



Now what? Your a Nazi sooooo, eat it!



posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 04:15 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Gryphon66




I'm sorry you have such hatred in your heart for America Neo.


Well I guess I could have ran around calling half the country deplorable, a presidential candidate a rapists,russian spy, and white supremacist, and all his supporters nazis.

That wasn't HATEFUL at all.


You just called the Greatest Generation deplorable, Neo. And you called the Constitution a "GD piece of paper."

And it's on the record.

You usually annoy me, but now ... I just feel sorry for you.



posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 04:17 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66




You just called the Greatest Generation deplorable, Neo. A


Because they elected a guy that attended a Klanbake,locked up American citizens, and dropped nukes on civilians.

That's the greatest generation!



posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 04:22 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Gryphon66




You just called the Greatest Generation deplorable, Neo. A


Because they elected a guy that attended a Klanbake,locked up American citizens, and dropped nukes on civilians.

That's the greatest generation!


I knew you were hyper-partisan ... but I had no idea of how deeply the hatred goes.



posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 04:23 PM
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In all honesty, i think we are all Nazis, liberal nazi, conservative nazi, american nazi, white nazi, neo nazi, black nazi, mexican nazi, asain nazi, and last but not least, and the best...... Jewish Nazi, im sure there are more nazis out there but lets just get it out of our system, everyone, lets say "I am a nazi" WHEEEEEW, that felt good. The first sign is denying it, the first step is acceptance.
Now, im going to take my nazi self and my nazi mexican wife and go eat some nazi tacos!



posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 04:23 PM
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originally posted by: Bwomp83
Now what? Your a Nazi sooooo, eat it!

No, I'm actually not part of nor do I share the ideals of any National Socialist party. I am not part of any political party.

Oh wait, your using the term in the same childish way that those you are complaining about use it. That is actually pretty sad.


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posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 04:29 PM
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a reply to: intrepid

I agree... people need a huge history lesson in Politics and WW2. Honestly, Trump is the furthest thing from a nazi. Obama was more of a "nazi" with:
cigarette bans
Farm Laws
Factory Laws
Obama Youth
Health Care
Business Caps...

All products of Nazis. The fact they call them right wing is even more absurd as it was people like Kennedy and Obama who incorporated Nazi ideas into America.

The Nazis were not White Supremacist but Eugenicist.

The total lack of open mindedness is outstanding. The lack of knowledge of US, UK, Russian, and Jewish propaganda is absurd. The taboo of Nazis is so strong, the US government would rather have people think a little green men crashed down in Roswell and that's why we have: spaceships, rockets, microwaves, geographical sound mapping, jets, stealth technology, night vision and IR, computers all came from this little green man 1000 light years away.. when it was really normal white men 1000 miles away called Nazis.

People do not realize that the Nazis did overcome the world. If you're a believer in economic laws and restrictions, preservation of wildlife and forest, work rights (vacation, 5 day work week, workers comp, breaks), the banning of chemical warfare and nuclear warfare, marriage and children tax credits, government housing projects, food banks and food stamps, free healthcare, warnings on cigarette packs and +18 consumption, DUI checkpoints, and a hatred to international banking financiers who use money and greed to racketeer us in constant wars… you just might be a Nazi.

Oh, they can't retake Germanic separatists like Poland like UK did to Ireland and Scottland. Or The North did to the South. Or Russia does to Georgia and Ukraine. Oh, they can't genocide a race of people like UK and Colonist did to Indians, or to the natives of Australia. Oh, they can't put people in work camps like Russian Gulags, or Japanese FEMA camps, or Eisenhower's Death Camps. American people didn't care about Germany in 1930s because we “been there, done that.”

The biggest load of crap and political hypocrisy in world. I don't deny Holocaust happened or agree with it- but FINAL SOLUTION came after 66 billion Reich Marks went to Palestine to give Jews Israel. They were unable to transport Jews out of country. With UK illegal bombings of food transportation and aid and farms left most of Europe starving and fighting diseases caused by Typhus. With Jews no where to go, they set out on a final journey where they would face sudden death. Hitler could have let them die a long slow death of disease and starvation, but instead took to a more humane way to end suffering. This would be his final solution. But the original idea was Zionism. That was his first solution - however UK and USA after turning the Jews (USS Louise) back to Germany, they allowed the Jews to go into the slaughter. So noble..

Putting all blame on Nazis is shifting the blame from UK and Russia. Mainly the UK who bit off WAY MORE than they could chew and needed entire world to bail them out. I love America, I am a right wing constitutionalist who hates socialism- but America needs to step up and be a man instead of making a villain and scapegoat. Communism wasn't propaganda, it was a threat that tipped the world in countless wars and nuclear arms race at the expense of citizens life and resources to fill pockets of international crooks like “LORD Rothschild” for past 70 years.

In a lot of ways, Nazism did overcome the world. Why do you think images of Hitler laughing in south america is a “conspiracy” and not fact? Why do you think Nazis at Nuremberg Trials laughed when facing death? Because every nation in the world would be forced to treat its citizens better or face revolution.

Now bring on the Nazi Tacos!



posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 05:44 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Romani are the Gypsies, actually. And they aren't technically ethnically white. They come from the east near India originally. Or so sayeth my Romanian friends.



posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 06:40 PM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: intrepid


Not all White Supremacists are Nazis, but all Nazis are white supremacists!



You will notice that the press here is care full to use the phrase "nationalist" when making talk. There are very real reasons they do this. For one and just one reason they understand they cant sell anyone on the idea that white americans are racist at all in the fashion of Nazi. But they can provoke and divide the country along many ethnic lines by suggesting the whites are nationalistic in an ownership me first sort of way.
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posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 07:07 PM
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a reply to: intrepid

Fine. They are two seperate groups of despicable a$$holes. It's not like "How dare you call me a Nazi, I'm just a White Supremacist."
I don't think either group minds being mistaken for the other.



posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 07:09 PM
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Nazis were in no way racist to people who didn't have fair skin. Germany's most important ally was Japan.



posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 07:47 PM
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a reply to: tannerc

Except for putting blacks on the same level as Jews.



posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 07:59 PM
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a reply to: pavil

If Hitler was alive today he would gas the Neo Nazis.



posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 08:12 PM
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originally posted by: Iostsheep
a reply to: pavil

If Hitler was alive today he would gas the Neo Nazis.


I take it you knew hitler very well? Buds?



posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 09:09 PM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

Proof?



posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 09:10 PM
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a reply to: Iostsheep

Hitler would consider neo Nazis as genetically inferior and gas them on grounds of eugenics.



posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 09:13 PM
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a reply to: Bwomp83

Yea, I studied on him a lot. A lot of people do. If you dont know your history you're bound to repeat it.

It's fact he down right shunned the Nazi movement in America in 1930s.

Many neo Nazis think he was a Jew who ruined the Nazi movement and a traitor because he shunned them and a "Rothschild" agent.

It's a fact he hated their types of music or "white rock" and banned such music as immoral, hatred, violent, political, sexual, and criminal in nature.

He HIGHLY hated people who drink, smoke, and do drugs. A lot of the synthetic drugs used to wing people off heroine was invented by Nazi scientists. Usage of drugs would land you in a concentration camp.

Gang tattoos of any kind were also strongly discouraged and land you in a concentration camp.

and raping other ethnic groups in jail would land you right in concentration camps. Not because it was "ethnic rape" but because homosexuals would go to the camps. Gay sex in jail, is still gay sex. It wouldn't be allowed in worker camps neither.

A lot of Neo Nazis are in forms of secret societies and biker groups which wouldn't of been allowed in Nazi Germany either. Some Neo Nazis conspire that Hitler shunned the Thule society as well and Hemmler and Hiess was the true force behind Hitler, Hitler was just a " jew puppet " to mask the "Final Solution". They also hate fact that Hitler tried to give the Jews Isreal which should only belong to the Aryans since they didn't reject Christ.

I could go on if you'd like... like how he executed a lot of the brownshirt leaders for being to thuggish and violent.

If there was a group that Hitler would of liked in today's time.. it would be like Golden Dawn Society in Greece. Yeah it's a hate group, but its a political group first. They take steps to ensure better stability in Greece and supply relief aid to people who are "true greeks". People think killing the Jews was their big purpose but really the only thing they obsessed over was the prosperity of the German people. They didn't care what color, religion, or culture you are.. just as long as it wasn't in Germany they really didn't care. They thought can't have a multi cultural society without constantly clashing with other cultures and you can't equally distribute equal rights. Technically, America hasn't been able to master this.. not that it isn't fixable but we still have culture problems in America. There is no "Crosses offend Muslims" "Preachers must marry gays despite religious belief" you went to Germany demanding to remove public Christmas trees would land you in a concentration camp.




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posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 10:43 PM
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a reply to: Iostsheep

Keep studying.




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