posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 03:21 PM
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Outlier13
Trump was wrong about Mexico paying for the wall.
He was wrong about creating a new health care system being easy.
He was wrong about repealing "Obamacare" on day one.
He was wrong about clean coal.
He was wrong about the coal industry's ability to rebound, and did not trigger a law protecting coal generating factories.
He was wrong about, in my opinion, about allowing factories to dump waste into clean streams and rivers.
He was wrong, in my opinion, to pull out of the Paris Accord.
Those are just a few things, off the top of my head.
Ok this I appreciate. Thanks for the thoughtful response. And I want to disclose I am not a Trump apologist by any means but I also will not allow
people to unjustly crucify Trump for things that he cannot control.
Mexico paying for the wall. In some way I know Mexico will pay. It may be indirect but there will be a transition of costs somewhere. Most likely
in increased taxation. Mexico not paying for the wall does not hurt Americans.
There are easy replacements for Obamacare, yet Trump has been stopped since day 1. None of the establishment right wing politicians have been willing
to help push this through. It is a misnomer that people somehow believe a POTUS can just arbitrarily change law. They can't and it will take time.
It is taking much longer because of the a$$ establishment politicians in DC on both the right and the left. Trump doesn't get blamed for this one.
You are right that he didn't realize he could repeal Obamacare on day 1, however, I never took that as a literal statement and it was certainly meant
figuratively. He did move very quickly to offer up a replacement but as I mentioned above he was not supported in any way. There is no way to spin
Obamacare. Wait until 2018 when the new hikes go into effect. It has an will always be the worst thing to happen to US citizens.
I don't know what you mean about "clean coal", I hate those combinations of words because there is no such thing. I recall Obama saying the same
thing and George Bush too. I missed what Trump said so you will have to point me to it.
Regarding a law to protect the coal industry. I think you are referring to Trump's recent rebuff of coal where a temporary emergency order was not
granted to certain coal companies who requested it. Yes, Trump did originally saw he was going to help the coal industry and as far as I know he is
still pushing for the repeal of the Clean Power Plan which is crippling coal plants, and repealing the Waters of the US Rule. And I do know he is
signing legislation to overturn polices to stop coal mining outright. So I would say Trump is 100% helping the coal industry in many ways that are
simply not being reported widely by the MSM. The only thing you can find is what occurred recently where the MSM is making it sound as if Trump is
completely abandoning the coal industry and this simply is not true.
Dumping waste into rivers and streams is not just a federal level issue. States self regulate this as well so here you cannot place this squarely on
Trump. And it's been going on since the beginning of time. Trump has loosened the restrictions. The states and local municipalites still have a
fiduciary responsibility to their tax base to ensure they dispose of waste properly. Where I live we are run by liberals and our waters are some of
the most polluted in the US. The mayor of our city (a screaming liberal Trump hater) would rather spend money on sports franchises than update water
treatment facilities from the 1950s or clean up the massive pollution we have in our waters.
I respect your opinion regarding the Paris Accord. However, it makes me wonder how much you know about it. Had we stayed in the Paris Accord our US
businesses would have been crushed with regulation. Crushed isn't even a just word. It would have massive ripple effects throughout the US economy.
Not to mention the Paris Accord outright violated our own Constitution. We cannot allow foreign countries the ability to dictate US policy within our
four walls. That would be the equivalent of me telling you how to live your life. That's just wrong.