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The Liberals, Democrat's, Antifa and the Democratic Socialist are the New Nazi's

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posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:27 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults

originally posted by: TheTory
One thing that is rarely mentioned is the conditions and breeding grounds which led to the Nazis seizing power. The politics of those conditions was known as Social Democracy.


Precisely, they leveraged power against a minority group or 1%.

That's Crowder's example in the video and the general idea of the OP.

They tend to forget that Germany was a Democractic country until Hitler seized power in the late 1930's at which point he became an authoritarian dictator, with the backing of the people I may add.





People also tend to overlook that Hitler wasn't even elected. He was at best appointed by the elected leadership to a position of power to appease a powerful segment of a parliamentary government and likely form a coalition. This enabled him to be in position to be more or less appointed later on to fill a power vacuum.




posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:27 PM
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a reply to: introvert




I didn't twist anything. I have shown that it's ok to take from you. or all of us, to provide something for the common good, as outlined by the constitution.


your conflating general welfare with common good

general welfare is not about buying you food it's about making sure you have the ability to make your own, of course yuou want to twist the idea's of the founding fathers to fit your leftist narrative

show me 1 letter written by any of the founding fathers about providing actual welfare for poor people, I won't hold my breath though

probably start with the Federalist papers.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:28 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults

originally posted by: TheTory
One thing that is rarely mentioned is the conditions and breeding grounds which led to the Nazis seizing power. The politics of those conditions was known as Social Democracy.


Precisely, they leveraged power against a minority group or 1%.

That's Crowder's example in the video and the general idea of the OP.

They tend to forget that Germany was a Democractic country until Hitler seized power in the late 1930's at which point he became an authoritarian dictator, with the backing of the people I may add.


You're debating a point that has been brought-up many, many times and debunked just as many.

Revisionist arguments do not stand up at all.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:32 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults



your conflating general welfare with common good


I have done no such thing. I've shown that the constitution allows for taxes to be levied on to it's people for socialist programs, such as the military.

So that free-market crap is absurd, unless you can show the Founding Fathers called for the commission of private armies paid for by those that could afford it.



general welfare is not about buying you food it's about making sure you have the ability to make your own,


Where does it state that the general welfare clause is about people being able to make their own food?



of course yuou want to twist the idea's of the founding fathers to fit your leftist narrative


What narrative? It appears you are trying to twist it to fit your own, which is logically absurd.



show me 1 letter written by any of the founding fathers about providing actual welfare for poor people, I won't hold my breath though


Who said anything about providing for poor people? I do not have to account for arguments you make up as you go.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:33 PM
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a reply to: introvert

the founding fathers were not arguing for welfare benefits and food stamps just stop kidding yourself



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:35 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: introvert

the founding fathers were not arguing for welfare benefits and food stamps just stop kidding yourself


I did not say they did argue for anything of the sort.

They wrote a document that allowed for taxes to be levied in order to provide for the common good, like a military.

That's a socialist ideal.

In a true free market, you have to hire your own army.

Can you do that? I doubt it.

You're welcome.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:37 PM
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It's a stretch to go from an army to taking care of every single human being from cradle to grave too.

Can you show anything that supports that intent?

Why would they have written in any private property protections if they simply intended for the state to provide for everyone since the state would have to quickly confiscate everything to ensure that was done?



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:38 PM
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to take from one … in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, the guarantee to everyone the free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it.”


That's a Jefferson quote. Just stop it go away with the socialist bs.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:39 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: introvert

It's a stretch to go from an army to taking care of every single human being from cradle to grave too.

Can you show anything that supports that intent?

Why would they have written in any private property protections if they simply intended for the state to provide for everyone since the state would have to quickly confiscate everything to ensure that was done?


It's totally ridiculous. It's totally contrary to everything they believed in. They fought an entire war with Britain over 3% taxes they weren't writing it right back into the constitution a handful of years later.

It's totally idiotic to think that.

It's propaganda.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:40 PM
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It's a stretch to go from an army to taking care of every single human being from cradle to grave too.


Good thing I did not say anything about such a thing.



Can you show anything that supports that intent?


No. Can you show where I said anything about such support?



Why would they have written in any private property protections if they simply intended for the state to provide for everyone since the state would have to quickly confiscate everything to ensure that was done?


I don't believe they did and I never claimed as much.

Why are you trying to make me be held accountable for an argument I never made?
edit on 24-8-2017 by introvert because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:40 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: introvert




to take from one … in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, the guarantee to everyone the free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it.”


That's a Jefferson quote. Just stop it go away with the socialist bs.


I can't. It's in the constitution.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:40 PM
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Ahhhh, total flip.

So transparent.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:41 PM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: introvert




to take from one … in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, the guarantee to everyone the free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it.”


That's a Jefferson quote. Just stop it go away with the socialist bs.


I can't. It's in the constitution.


From one post to the next you do total 180's, literally posting right in a row.

Anyone who can't see this for what it is should just stop trying.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:42 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: introvert

Ahhhh, total flip.

So transparent.



Where did I flip?

It appears you may of had too many beers and can't quite keep your argument together.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:43 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: introvert




to take from one … in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, the guarantee to everyone the free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it.”


That's a Jefferson quote. Just stop it go away with the socialist bs.


I can't. It's in the constitution.


From one post to the next you do total 180's, literally posting right in a row.

Anyone who can't see this for what it is should just stop trying.


I hope people do see it.

You both are trying to make me account for arguments I have not made.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:52 PM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: introvert

the founding fathers were not arguing for welfare benefits and food stamps just stop kidding yourself


I did not say they did argue for anything of the sort.

They wrote a document that allowed for taxes to be levied in order to provide for the common good, like a military.

That's a socialist ideal.

In a true free market, you have to hire your own army.

Can you do that? I doubt it.

You're welcome.


I'm not aware of any socialist writing stating anything like that. Marx himself was opposed to taxes on the grounds it connected the middle class to the feudal state, funded wars and the actions of the bureaucracy.

"From today, therefore, taxes are abolished! It is high treason to pay taxes. Refusal to pay taxes is the primary duty of the citizen!". - Karl Marx



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:53 PM
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originally posted by: Painterz

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: 3daysgone
I pretty sure that Hitler left his mark on all classes of politics. They studied him and learn from him. I guess what I am saying is that if you look for some kind of evil in men, you will always find it.


Well, Ivana Trump said that her husband kept a copy of Mein Kampf on the bedside table; you might be right.



It wasn't mein keimpf, it was a book of hitlers collected speeches. But yes, otherwise your point stands.



That is my understanding as well.

Not disturbing at all. Hitler's speeches: the new gospel. Hallelujah.

Oh well, people are silly; often the loudest and accusatory.

What was Satan's other name again? The Accuser?

Yea, that one.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:57 PM
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originally posted by: TheTory

"From today, therefore, taxes are abolished! It is high treason to pay taxes. Refusal to pay taxes is the primary duty of the citizen!". - Karl Marx


Heh. Sounds like the Tea Party ... and of course, Mr. Trump.

Great quote.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:58 PM
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originally posted by: TheTory

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: introvert

the founding fathers were not arguing for welfare benefits and food stamps just stop kidding yourself


I did not say they did argue for anything of the sort.

They wrote a document that allowed for taxes to be levied in order to provide for the common good, like a military.

That's a socialist ideal.

In a true free market, you have to hire your own army.

Can you do that? I doubt it.

You're welcome.


I'm not aware of any socialist writing stating anything like that. Marx himself was opposed to taxes on the grounds it connected the middle class to the feudal state, funded wars and the actions of the bureaucracy.

"From today, therefore, taxes are abolished! It is high treason to pay taxes. Refusal to pay taxes is the primary duty of the citizen!". - Karl Marx


And that is why the Founding Fathers are different than the likes of Marx and why many socialists, such as myself, do not agree with those extremes.

Taxes serve a purpose and are outlined in the constitution in order to provide the necessities that both ignorant communists and free-market nuts can't seem to understand.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:58 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: introvert




to take from one … in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, the guarantee to everyone the free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it.”


That's a Jefferson quote. Just stop it go away with the socialist bs.


I can't. It's in the constitution.


From one post to the next you do total 180's, literally posting right in a row.

Anyone who can't see this for what it is should just stop trying.


Why don't you pick an argument, then, and counter it?

You're doing a slightly wordier version of "Nah-nanny-boo-boo."

Let have it ... what's your counter?




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