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The Liberals, Democrat's, Antifa and the Democratic Socialist are the New Nazi's

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posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:02 PM
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Hitler wasn't a leftie socialist.

Why are so many members of ats so obsessed with trying to redefine what Nazism is/was?

I get that a lot of you don't like being called Nazis, but these endless threads just sound like a desperate attempt to deflect from the actual racist authoritarian ideologues.




posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:02 PM
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posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:03 PM
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Any parallels and comparisons between Nazis and groups in the US is tenuous at best. I get the need to throw it back in the face of those who have tried to utilize that tactic, but then again such tactics is why I despised them in the first place.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:04 PM
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a reply to: introvert




What I find funny is that is has been people such as myself, a socialist, that seem to understand the constitution and wish to protect the ideals laid-out in the constitution, even for those that are diametrically opposed to my own beliefs.


Hmmmm, how could you possibly be pro free market and socialist or a constitutionalist and a socialist at the same time?

That doesn't even make sense.

Taking money from me that I earned and giving it to someone else by force is not a free market policy.

object.cato.org... hb111-34.pdf" target="_blank" class="postlink" rel="nofollow">website



The Constitution protects property rights mainly through the FifthAmendment’s Takings or Just Compensation Clause: ‘‘nor shall privateproperty be taken for public use without just compensation.


It's called the 5th amendment. Your position makes no sense.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:05 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: 3daysgone
I pretty sure that Hitler left his mark on all classes of politics. They studied him and learn from him. I guess what I am saying is that if you look for some kind of evil in men, you will always find it.


Well, Ivana Trump said that her husband kept a copy of Mein Kampf on the bedside table; you might be right.



It wasn't mein keimpf, it was a book of hitlers collected speeches. But yes, otherwise your point stands.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:06 PM
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originally posted by: Painterz
Hitler wasn't a leftie socialist.

Why are so many members of ats so obsessed with trying to redefine what Nazism is/was?

I get that a lot of you don't like being called Nazis, but these endless threads just sound like a desperate attempt to deflect from the actual racist authoritarian ideologues.


Uhhhh, nationalized healthcare/ education and the list goes on just stop it.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:06 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen




Congratulations on spreading hilariously fake pseudo historical 'documents'.

Not everything you see on 4chan is real.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:07 PM
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originally posted by: Painterz

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: 3daysgone
I pretty sure that Hitler left his mark on all classes of politics. They studied him and learn from him. I guess what I am saying is that if you look for some kind of evil in men, you will always find it.


Well, Ivana Trump said that her husband kept a copy of Mein Kampf on the bedside table; you might be right.



It wasn't mein keimpf, it was a book of hitlers collected speeches. But yes, otherwise your point stands.


He's also Jewish.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:09 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults

originally posted by: Painterz
Hitler wasn't a leftie socialist.

Why are so many members of ats so obsessed with trying to redefine what Nazism is/was?

I get that a lot of you don't like being called Nazis, but these endless threads just sound like a desperate attempt to deflect from the actual racist authoritarian ideologues.


Uhhhh, nationalized healthcare/ education and the list goes on just stop it.



No, I won't stop it. Because all of this historical revisionism going on here on ats is dangerous stuff, because it's a slippery slope to Holocaust denial.

Hitler was not a left wing socialist, so says every historian. Who says otherwise? Neo nazi pseudo historians.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:10 PM
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Hmmmm, how could you possibly be pro free market and socialist or a constitutionalist and a socialist at the same time?


Well, I can agree with socialist ideals, like a military and roads that benefit the public welfare and are granted by the Constitution, but I am not dumb enough to believe in a free market. There is no such thing.



That doesn't even make sense.


I'm not surprised.



Taking money from me that I earned and giving it to someone else by force is not a free market policy.


True, but it is constitutional.



It's called the 5th amendment. Your position makes no sense



Section 8. Clause 1. The Congress shall have Power to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:11 PM
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Several members involved in the formation and growth of the German Nationalsozialismus stated, repeatedly that their socialism was merely an exaggerated form of NATIONALISM.

More important than anything else (the lie went) was the German People. The Volk.

Of course, this was a lie, in fact, it was The Big Lie.

The party grew out of the German Workers Party. The Nazis pretended to be concerned primarily with (wait for it) "Making Germany Great AGAIN."

The appeal was to the pride of the German people, who felt they had been betrayed at Versailles.

The terms socialist, Communist, Marxist, Leninist, Stalinist, Maoist, etcist ... are tossed around lightly in most rhetoric.

Very few know anything about the difference in these terms ... and the VAST difference between these philosophies and the Democratic Party or American Liberals.

It's just absurd.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:11 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: 3daysgone
I pretty sure that Hitler left his mark on all classes of politics. They studied him and learn from him. I guess what I am saying is that if you look for some kind of evil in men, you will always find it.


Well, Ivana Trump said that her husband kept a copy of Mein Kampf on the bedside table; you might be right.


Of course he would. Anyone who wants to run for a political office would be a fool not to read it, just like anyone who wants to control an army would be a fool not to read Sun Tzu.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:12 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults

originally posted by: Painterz

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: 3daysgone
I pretty sure that Hitler left his mark on all classes of politics. They studied him and learn from him. I guess what I am saying is that if you look for some kind of evil in men, you will always find it.


Well, Ivana Trump said that her husband kept a copy of Mein Kampf on the bedside table; you might be right.



It wasn't mein keimpf, it was a book of hitlers collected speeches. But yes, otherwise your point stands.


He's also Jewish.



I think the fella was meaning Donald's ex wife said this about the Hitler book. Donald isn't Jewish is he?



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:15 PM
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originally posted by: Painterz
Hitler wasn't a leftie socialist.

Why are so many members of ats so obsessed with trying to redefine what Nazism is/was?

I get that a lot of you don't like being called Nazis, but these endless threads just sound like a desperate attempt to deflect from the actual racist authoritarian ideologues.


Ok, Nazi Germany wasnt called left, they were called the right wing, only because communism was left wing back then. Nazi Germany is and will always be socialist. Its in the library, go learn something. My wife from Mexico even knows this, she gets mind blown everytime you lefties try to relate hitlers regime to the republicans of today. She also knows it was the democratic party that faught to keep slavery, that started the kkk, she was taught this in school and college in Mexico. She also knows that what the settlers did to the indians and took over is no different then what the Spaniards did to mexico, but whats done is done and generations ago, centuries ago, you cant undo it nor relocate 100's of millions of people in todays world... pfff, anywho, go to a library, you need it.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:20 PM
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Nice twisting of words.

Obviously the freedom loving founding fathers were not socialist who would write higher taxes into the constitution to pay for welfare. They had a rebellion over a 3% tax.

website/ analysis of the term general welfare



ongress has not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare, but only those specifically enumerated. They are not to do anything they please to provide for the general welfare, but only to lay taxes for that purpose. To consider the latter phrase not as describing the purpose of the first, but as giving a distinct and independent power to do any act they please which may be good for the Union, would render all the preceding and subsequent enumerations of power completely useless. It would reduce the whole instrument to a single phrase, that of instituting a Congress with power to do whatever would be for the good of the United States; and as they would be the sole judges of the good or evil, it would be also a power to do whatever evil they please…. Certainly no such universal power was meant to be given them. It was intended to lace them up straightly within the enumerated powers and those without which, as means, these powers could not be carried into effect. That of instituting a Congress with power to do whatever would be for the good of the United States; and, as they would be the sole judges of the good or evil, it would be also a power to do whatever evil they please.


of course your liberal brain would want it to mean welfare, UGHHH



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:22 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

I know the difference between a fascist and a socialist and Hitler at some point in his reign was both however the Nazi party came to power as a national socialist regime with socialist policy

don't try this failed leftist rhetoric with me



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:23 PM
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a reply to: Painterz

Historical revisionism? Like destroying statues of figures that offend us?



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:23 PM
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One thing that is rarely mentioned is the conditions and breeding grounds which led to the Nazis seizing power. The politics of those conditions was known as Social Democracy.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:24 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults



Nice twisting of words.


I didn't twist anything. I have shown that it's ok to take from you. or all of us, to provide something for the common good, as outlined by the constitution.

By your definition, the Founding Fathers and the constitution are anti-"free market".

Sorry, but it's true.

There is no such thing as a free market.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:24 PM
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originally posted by: TheTory
One thing that is rarely mentioned is the conditions and breeding grounds which led to the Nazis seizing power. The politics of those conditions was known as Social Democracy.


Precisely, they leveraged power against a minority group or 1%.

That's Crowder's example in the video and the general idea of the OP.

They tend to forget that Germany was a Democractic country until Hitler seized power in the late 1930's at which point he became an authoritarian dictator, with the backing of the people I may add.




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