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Firearm self-defense is rare compared with gun crimes
In 1992 offenders armed with handguns committed a record 931,000 violent crimes ... On average in 1987-92 about 83,000 crime victims per year used a firearm to defend themselves
criminal gun use is far more common than self-defense gun use
A 2009 study reported that gun owners were more likely to be shot in an assault than were non-gun owners
originally posted by: SudoNim
a reply to: kelbtalfenek
Do you not think tourists get targeted in countries that don't have high gun-ownership?
What makes you think they targeted tourists because they wouldn't have a gun rather than they are more likely to leave valuables in the car, accidentally leave it unlocked etc etc
When one can identify a tourist as a potential "non gun owner" that becomes a preferred target.
Do you not understand that the law denoting license plates for rental vehicles to start with "R" made them a preferable target?
originally posted by: face23785
a reply to: SudoNim
When you have to pretend Wikipedia articles don't have sources you're losing badly. You've been referencing sources from the article I gave you with much higher numbers than that, so I know you saw them. Stop being a spoiled child and acknowledge the math. No one is disputing the gun murder numbers, although you didn't know what they were apparently until I told you. All of a sudden you believed me when I gave a higher number, so we know where your mindset is. If the number helps your argument, it's believable.