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Far-right smear campaign against Antifa exposed

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posted on Aug, 26 2017 @ 01:57 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66


I never said you were making accusations against specific individuals. False argument by you. Or quote me to prove otherwise.




www.abovetopsecret.com...
Most of the apologists here aren't merely talking about free speech rights ... they're trying to explain away the violent terrorist efforts of the UTR rally, both in its plann


And you cannot back your allegations of explaining away?

And you cannot even quote speakers at the rally to prove they were inciting violence that day?

Which is a moot point, because mobs do not have the right to take the law into their own hands.

Can you prove any of your allegations or not?
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posted on Aug, 26 2017 @ 02:10 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

Who are these people? Here in this thread?



www.abovetopsecret.com...
Most of the apologists here aren't merely talking about free speech rights ... they're trying to explain away the violent terrorist efforts of the UTR rally, both in its planning and its implementation.



posted on Aug, 26 2017 @ 05:10 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

So let's go with your "logic" for a second ... all the Nazis and White Supremacists in attendance don't exist without Kessler? The Proud Boys don't exist? David Duke, Richard Spencer, Baked Alaska ... the KKK, the Nationalist Front, the National Socialists, Vanguard America ... all these people don't exist without Jason Kessler? Co-organizer Nathan Damigo doesn't exist independently?


I did not write, or imply that... So don't attempt to claim I imply things that can't be found in my statements... That's called creating a straw man. Oh and btw... I noticed what you did there... Trying to describe national socialists as "right-wingers"... I guess according to you Gandhi was a "right-winger"... He was a national socialist... i guess according to you Nelson Mandela was a "right-winger"... Mandela called for the extermination of whites and for only black Africans to exist in the continent... That's what "national socialists" do... But i guess you, like many others in the left, want to re-write history to claim "national socialism" is a right-wing ideology...

If democrats, and socialists/communists in the U.S. were as a majority behind "nationalism", or puting the nation first instead of the globalist agenda for destroying the borders, the "white nationalists" you claim are "right-wingers" would immediately change sides once again...


originally posted by: Gryphon66
Was Kessler also "left wing" when he tried to get Wes Bellamy fired in March of 2016 for being "anti-White"?


While at the same time writing that Obama was one of the greatest U.S. Presidents, and making complimentary statements about democrats... You forgot those facts... BTW Gryphon66...refresh our memory again... Are you saying that no left-winger in the 20th - 21st century has ever targeted other left-wingers?... if you need to I can point to several examples of the opposite...


originally posted by: Gryphon66
So, there was no march with weapons and torches through the streets of Charlottesville? No chants of "BLOOD AND SOIL" and "JEWS WILL NOT REPLACE US"? All of these people were, what, mind-controlled by Jason Kessler?


Could you point out where I wrote any of your new ad hominem claims about me?...


originally posted by: Gryphon66
Give us a break. This is the exactly the kind of rank nonsense and absurd apologies for Nazis and White Supremacists that demonstrates just how far out on the fringe some of you have gone.


Once again trying to shift the blame and claim "the right are all in favor of nazis and white suspremacy"...

You remind me of this left-wing moron...who happens to be black but is calling Charles Barkley "a black white supremacist"...

Charles Barkley Is a Great Example of a Black White Supremacist

I guess like the example I showed above you want to claim "see, electricuniverse is a hispanic white supremacist"...
Which sorry to say, and I know it rains in your made up delusional parade, it is not true.


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posted on Aug, 26 2017 @ 05:19 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

I guess backing accusations with actual quotes and evidence is not a strong point of Gryphon66?



posted on Aug, 26 2017 @ 05:45 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
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Here's a taste of your own absurd medicine:

Can you prove that the Nazi terrorists were not calling for violence? That they didn't intend to intimidate the residents of Charlottesville? Because I've already clearly demonstrated that they did just that.


Stop the BS already and show where people have written that "white nationalists/nazis were not calling for violence"...

You can't demand for proof that doesn't exist. But like always, your job seems to be to make "absurd" claims about posters in ATS who lean to the right, meanwhile not corroborating your false claims about ATS members...



originally posted by: Gryphon66
Or how about this one ...

Can you prove that the defenders and residents of Charlottesville were calling for violence?


If i recall what members of ATS were saying is that the mayor of Charlottesville, who happens to be a blm supporter, has shown himself to be a racist (against whites)and told the police to stand down and allowed the violence to escalate... That's entirely different to what you are trying to claim...


originally posted by: Gryphon66
No, it's not against the law to defend oneself or others from true threats; perhaps you should do a bit more homework instead of asking for others to do your work for you?


Two negatives in a statement= a positive statement. So i guess your statement reads: "It is against the law to defend oneself or others from true threats..."

Your subconcious seems to be fighting a lot with your conscious mind.


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posted on Aug, 27 2017 @ 02:32 AM
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The joke is that Antifa makes it so easy to pwn them.

Its like they want to look bad and its easy to help them look even worse then they are.



posted on Aug, 27 2017 @ 06:54 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse




Your subconcious seems to be fighting a lot with your conscious mind.


...said the other universe, whilst claiming that the NSDAP was socialist. Which would be the other side of this smear-campaign, I guess. Disinfo and reductionistic propaganda from the right wing extremists. SJW identity politics, eh?

Care to point out the socialist part of their politics or am I supposed to do your homework, too?
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posted on Aug, 27 2017 @ 08:00 AM
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a reply to: ANNED


The joke is that Antifa makes it so easy to pwn them.

Yah, they haven't taken down whole countries, or killed anyone , they just demonstrate against Fascism.

The Fascists just hate that.

Like accusing BLM of being anti cop, when its the cops that are doing the killing.



posted on Aug, 27 2017 @ 01:06 PM
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a reply to: DanteGaland

Hahahahahahahahaha

What do you really expect coming out of 4chan?

"Boohoohoo a website full of trolls trolled me! Help, government!"

First of all, get off your high horse. You, antifa, and the entire left take yourselves way too seriously. I'm going to tell you something that everyone needs to hear, but rarely does: you're not important. You're not special. No one cares about your problems except for you.

Secondly, is it entirely untrue? I think it raises a fine point. These violent pseudo-anarchists (communists) honestly believe that it is perfectly fine to destroy free speech by any means necessary. If a woman was to speak in favor of nazi politics, is it ok to punch her too? She is a nazi, after all.

Third of all, stop buying into the dialectic. All of this is fake anyway. Does this whole antifa/nazi debacle reek of government intervention to anyone else?

Nazis are trash.
Antifa are trash.
The left are trash.
The right are trash.

The only way to prevent a tyrannical government is by avoiding government entirely.



posted on Sep, 6 2017 @ 04:00 AM
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a reply to: DanteGaland

These groups need no help in destroying their credibility,they are doing a smear campaign every time they appear,and all the video's I've seen were in public view,any BS that went on was very obvious,you liberals should do your homework,but maybe they don't teach that in school anymore



posted on Sep, 6 2017 @ 04:05 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

The whole point of the matter is, that the Nazis were right wingers, and the name of their party was a lie to attract actual socialists, who were used then murdered by the Nazis, when they started asking the wrong questions, murdered in huge number as well. Its well documented by actual scholars, that even the name of the Nazi party was propagandist, and nothing to do with the underpinnings of, or the beliefs of the leadership of the party itself, or any of its most rabid supporters.



posted on Sep, 6 2017 @ 04:43 AM
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a reply to: TrueBrit

Yep. One incident that you're referring to is the "Night of the Long Knives", where virtually the entire leadership of the Nazi's pro-worker, anti-capitalist, left-wing Strasserism branch was killed off by other Nazis.



posted on Sep, 6 2017 @ 03:24 PM
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originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: TrueBrit

Yep. One incident that you're referring to is the "Night of the Long Knives", where virtually the entire leadership of the Nazi's pro-worker, anti-capitalist, left-wing Strasserism branch was killed off by other Nazis.


But... but ... Muh narrative!




posted on Sep, 9 2017 @ 11:43 PM
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a reply to: DanteGaland

Yes also 8chan is listing 'fake news' - they put together a random list of "antifa leaders" - most of whom were nowhere near the alt-right protests or punching anyone. These lists are being shared by fake antifa accounts, fake POTUS accounts, and Trump social media groups. There's so much cross-over between alt-right and Trump - but mainstream Trump supporters don't want to see it.



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