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Far-right smear campaign against Antifa exposed

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posted on Aug, 26 2017 @ 11:40 AM
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originally posted by: poncho1982
a reply to: amazing

I didn't say they don't.

Please, actually read posts before commenting.


I thought I did? Sorry. Why was my post Ironic?




posted on Aug, 26 2017 @ 11:43 AM
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a reply to: amazing

BAM!




posted on Aug, 26 2017 @ 11:56 AM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

Sooo, you cannot provide any quotes to provide your biased and unfounded claims. Sad.



posted on Aug, 26 2017 @ 12:08 PM
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You failed to provide actual quotes.


One, please quote one speaker at the rally that was calling for violence.



No, it's not against the law to defend oneself or others from true threats; perhaps you should do a bit more homework instead of asking for others to do your work for you?



Yes, the crowed had the right to protect protectect themselves against the ONE murderous idiot that drove the car.

Yes the crowed had the right to counter protest.

The mobs did not have the right to take the law into their own hands to harass individuals that were nonviolently protesting.

The mobs did not have the right to use force to shutdown hate speach. We have law enforcement, a system of laws, and lawsuits.

Cite cases other than the ramming of the car where ANY SIDE had the right to use force against each other by law? In fact, most states require individuals to avoid deadly force and warrant the use of deadly force only as a last resort. Individuals had the right to protect themselves until they could call law enforcement. Protesters on BOTH sides had no intention of doing what the law outlined.
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posted on Aug, 26 2017 @ 12:18 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

If you cannot provide quotes to prove your accusations.....

It's not an individual's job to prove innocence, its the job of the accuser to provide evidence of their allegations.....
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posted on Aug, 26 2017 @ 12:19 PM
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a reply to: neutronflux

Sooo ... you agree that people have the right to defend themselves when attacked?

There you go. Now, please, get back to the topic which regards an alleged "right-wing" smear campaign against ANTIFA.

Or be ignored.

/shrug



posted on Aug, 26 2017 @ 12:24 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: neutronflux

Sooo ... you agree that people have the right to defend themselves when attacked?

There you go. Now, please, get back to the topic which regards an alleged "right-wing" smear campaign against ANTIFA.

Or be ignored.

/shrug


Then quote or cite any action by any side other other than the one individual that drive the car warranted action to harass the individuals that where there to protest nonviolently.



posted on Aug, 26 2017 @ 12:25 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: neutronflux

Sooo ... you agree that people have the right to defend themselves when attacked?

There you go. Now, please, get back to the topic which regards an alleged "right-wing" smear campaign against ANTIFA.

Or be ignored.

/shrug


Still waiting on quotes from you to back your allegations. Especially the allegations you are making against individuals of this thread.



posted on Aug, 26 2017 @ 12:29 PM
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a reply to: neutronflux

You seem to be a fan of cutting and pasting. I'm not.

I am a fan of the T&C though ... and you seem to be obsessed with telling me what to do. I've responded to you as I CHOSE not as YOU WANT.

Deal with it, and move on ... back to the topic or obsession with someone else.
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posted on Aug, 26 2017 @ 12:30 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

glad to see you continue to use false equivalence tactics as an only argument



posted on Aug, 26 2017 @ 12:37 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

No. You have mode accusations against individuals part of this thread you cannot prove. So, are your arguments based on false accusations?



posted on Aug, 26 2017 @ 12:40 PM
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a reply to: amazing

Obviously, you did, but failed to comprehend.

Allow me to explain, since you can't grasp it.

I said it was ironic, hence meaning that coming from a side that vehemently supports identity politics to call out another group for doing the same.

So that, by default means both parties do it.

See how simple that was?

But then again, we all know how some people fail to see the failings of both sides.

That's why we Independents are here.



posted on Aug, 26 2017 @ 12:48 PM
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a reply to: neutronflux

Quote me making a accusation against an individual.



posted on Aug, 26 2017 @ 12:56 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

I never said you were making a claim against a specific individual.

This was not you?
www.abovetopsecret.com...



1. Most of the apologists here aren't merely talking about free speech rights ... they're trying to explain away the violent terrorist efforts of the UTR rally, both in its planning and its implementation.


And I asked for quotes to prove your allegations......

But you would rather rant?



posted on Aug, 26 2017 @ 01:14 PM
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a reply to: neutronflux

You said I was making accusations against individuals.

I'd like you to quote those accusations against individual members. Can you?

You quoted a statement I made about apologists. Did I call anyone out by name? Or was I making a general observation that you are DESPERATELY trying to conflate into something else?

If it calms your triggered nerves ... consider that a statement of my general opinion.



posted on Aug, 26 2017 @ 01:27 PM
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a reply to: neutronflux

I specially asked you to......



www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: Gryphon66

Quote individuals that were "explaining" away violent terrorists actions in this thread.

Can you quote any scheduled speakers at the Charlottesville free speech rally that were calling for violence?

And its a legal matter if they were. The mobs had no legal right to take matters into their own hands. I believe in a civil society based on laws and rights, not mob action. What do you believe in?



This is the opening line you used to reply....



www.abovetopsecret.com...
Read it for yourself. Read any of the multitudes of threads on the same subject.


Quote where I ever said you named a person or an individual.

You are making allegations, and I asked for specific quotes so you could prove your allegations.

You would rather rant, and carry on this back and forth than prove your allegations?
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posted on Aug, 26 2017 @ 01:30 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

Are you making false allegations about individuals in this thread?



posted on Aug, 26 2017 @ 01:32 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

Individuals have the right to protect themselves. No group has a the right to band together to take the law into their own hands as a mob.



posted on Aug, 26 2017 @ 01:36 PM
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a reply to: neutronflux

So you can't quote me making "accusations against indviduals" as you claimed?

Typical.



posted on Aug, 26 2017 @ 01:57 PM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Gryphon66

Individuals have the right to protect themselves.


I said this three pages ago. Are you just trying to badger me? Let's let some other folks chat, eh?



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