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Far-right smear campaign against Antifa exposed

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posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 01:08 AM
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originally posted by: Grimpachi

originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: DanteGaland

Anything to avoid completely denouncing a domestic terrorist group that confirms your biases and adds to your echo chamber, ya?

So you denounce the alt-right, right?

One of them ran down people with a car.


Who would defend that? I haven't seen anyone here defend that.

Just like I would hope no one would defend Micah Xavier Johnson who murdered 5 officers at the BLM rally.

All while BLM was marching and chanting kill the pigs.


Who is more dangerous in this country the NAZIs or BLM in your opinion?

Nazis, from personal experience.

Micah Xavier Johnson was rejected from every group he tried to join, so no, can't really blame BLM for that shooting.

The Nazi murderer in the car was not turned away.




posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 01:26 AM
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a reply to: Greven

Repeating it over and over doesn't make it a fact. Alt right doesn't equal white nationalist, it equals American Nationalist, which as I've said before, I am one of.



posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 01:45 AM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Greven

Repeating it over and over doesn't make it a fact. Alt right doesn't equal white nationalist, it equals American Nationalist, which as I've said before, I am one of.

Saying they ain't over and over again doesn't make them not.

You were just denouncing Antifa as a whole as domestic terrorists, but individuals belonging to the group you seem to like (Timothy McVeigh, the evil Nazi in the car who doesn't deserve to be named, KKK, etc) who actually have killedpeople you will just ignore?

Someone with a bike lock means the entire group is guilty of being terrorists, but a guy who runs a crowd down with a car is just what - a lone wolf? A guy who blows up children in a daycare is what, just deranged? Do you not see the bizarre logic you are employing?

I'm a Republican, always been so, and I'm still gonna call Nazis what they are - Nazis. I don't give a # if they're supposed to be on 'my side' of the political spectrum. Every single thing I have seen from them has been vile and evil.

I have seen nothing good anywhere by anyone on the 'Alt-Right' nor anything to disassociate themselves at all with White Nationalism.
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posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 02:08 AM
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a reply to: DanteGaland

When I see ANTIFA members throwing balloons full of urine and bags of feces at other people, waving the old soviet flag, shouting for the death of anyone who doesn't agree with their ideology smashing windows, looting stores, burning cars, beating passers-by calling them Nazies, draging motorists out of their cars and beating them..The list goes on..

I don't think anyone needs to smear ANTIFA or any of their related groups, seeing is believing.



posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 02:32 AM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Greven

Repeating it over and over doesn't make it a fact. Alt right doesn't equal white nationalist, it equals American Nationalist, which as I've said before, I am one of.


And what authority among the alt-right gave you the definitions and distinctions between "white nationalist" and "American Nationalist"?

This isn't Golden Corral. You don't get to just pick and choose things you like and claim to shun others you don't. Part of being a responsible human being is taking responsibility for the company you keep, aka keeping your "house" clean.
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posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 03:23 AM
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originally posted by: [post=22599822]Painterz

THey are interesting people, and not at all what the media paints them as.


The media doesn't paint them in any way. They do a pretty good job of painting the picture of who they are.

They are cowards which is why they cover their faces so they cannot be identified:



They are unhinged psychopaths who advocate the execution of the President of the United States:



They are thieves:



They advocate anarchy and civil unrest. Yet ironically want free health care and school given to them by the very government they don't want to govern them.



They initiate riots and destroy public and private property:



Here we have a 7th year poli-sci student showing what he's learned in art class:



And let's not forget how well versed with history they are as they once again destroy public property:



They are hypocrites advocating free speech while shutting it down:



They have no respect for our police:



And of course they have ZERO RESPECT for the very country that affords them the right to act like snot-nosed, snowflake, sniveling, entitled, whiny a$$holes:



And you think the media is painting them in a negative light?

Uh...ok.











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posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 03:30 AM
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It is a good thing when this sort of thing is found out, disinformation encourages people to make decisions based on false info. I encourage disinformation like this to be brought to light regardless of which side of the isle it is on.



posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 03:50 AM
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originally posted by: Outlier13
They have no respect for our police:



Look closely. They all dress like muslims and then there is the black flag white marker. Where do we know that from?

How brainwashed those girls/women have to be, they probably never lived in an arabic muslim domintated country or they would fight against this on the OTHER SIDE. They are a disgrace to every surpressed women on earth.



posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 06:00 AM
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The twitter accounts were clearly meant to be parody accounts, they weren't even trying to hide it. Obviously they were exaggerating the ideology of Antifa but it's based on how they think, that's what makes it so funny and why some people even questioned if they were real in the first place.



posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 06:12 AM
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a reply to: verschickter

Well. I'm pretty sure that the cops killed more Amerikans than the muslims did. They do have a point there. Plus it doesn't mean that they actually kill cops, that's the thing with kids and strong language. Some call it a provocation, others call it an overstatement to make you think. Is it art already?

I see... you're comfortly numb with that outrage. Did you ever live in an "arabic muslim dominated "country?


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posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 06:32 AM
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a reply to: Outlier13

I find your cherry-picked presentation unconvincing overall.

I agree for the most part about the masks; one should have the courage of ones convictions.

The rest is at best blatant hypocrisy. How many "conservatives" regularly called for the death of President Obama? How many regularly called for the overthrow of the government under his Administration? How many have whined about marches and demonstrations that they don't agree with? How many trashed the Federal government of the United States even calling for parts of the Constitution (like the Fourteenth Amendment) to be repealed?

Yes, your list is at best blatantly hypocritical. I'd be willing to bet, were I interested enough to go to your posting history, I'd find examples of the same things you're crying about here.

Conservatives should clean up their own house before whining about others
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posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 06:35 AM
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originally posted by: DanteGaland
That is probably true.


lol



posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 06:55 AM
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a reply to: testingtesting

Thats BS. It has always been BS since before the election and it will be forever after.

If you called me a NAZI apologist in real life I would break your face bones.

Dont go around calling people that unless they actually are.

Have you ever met a real NAZI?



posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 07:14 AM
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UTR members carried Nazi flags, chanted Nazi slogans, wore Nazi insignia, and belong to the American Nazi Party, the Nationalist Front, the National Socialist Movement, etc. etc.

Yet, these people cannot be called Nazis?

And those here who leap through logical hoops to justify their actions and normalize their ideology them can't be called Nazi Sympathizers?

Beg to differ.
edit on 25-8-2017 by Gryphon66 because: Noted



posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 07:20 AM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: introvert


Anti-fascism. I think we can all agree with that. Right?


We really need anti-fascism out of the blue? KKK/Nazis etc were a joke until this group put illegitimacy to them recently with counter protests...

Still just a angle to push anarchists views


Could very well be a way to push anarchist views, but they are not going to gain much traction.

And, yes, we need anti-fascism at this point in time. The racists, supremacists and fascists have become emboldened under Trump and we need to squash it back down. After Trump won the nomination, the owner of the Stormfront website publicly-stated that they had to upgrade their server system due to increased traffic. He accredited that to Trump.

Forgive me if I do not provide a link to his statement. There are some searches I will not conduct and some websites I will not go to when I am on my office PC, but it is easy to find if you wish to read up on the issue.



posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 07:27 AM
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a reply to: Blaine91555

Well, better fire all the SWAT members, ban your SEALS from covering their faces on ops, ban all special forces from concealing their identities for the safety of their families, and so that they can do the good work they do without fear of being identified and killed later, eh?

Bloody double standards crap.

First of all, if you are demolishing far right, fascist, Nazi and racist elements, then you get a free damned pass to dress up in any get up you like, and you get a ten inch thick, tungsten jacket to deflect calls of "LOOK! LEFTY FACSISM!"

It is physically impossible to engage in fascism, while combating fascists. You can accept that, or you can be wrong, but there are no other options, no grey spaces in this one.



posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 07:30 AM
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a reply to: tadaman

Ooo a tough guy....if you expressed nazi crap I would do the same also.



posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 07:31 AM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

Were they the only ones attending?

Those are NAZIs.

You know better.

There were plenty that didnt support either side. Plenty didnt want NAZIs there but did support Trump. The locals really. Everyone else was bussed in and asked to come from elsewhere.

Worth considering, if racists were so much a part of Trumps campaign how come they could only get a few thousand together, or was it only hundreds of actual NAZIs?

Either way, if Trump supporters were these people, they should have had numbers in the hundreds of thousands. Half the country voted for him.

Keep calling us racists online. If you do it in person you may not like how people respond.


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posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 07:33 AM
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a reply to: testingtesting

Yet I have actually broken nazi skulls. Can you say the same?

It means something entirely different when you call people like me a NAZI.

We are tired of being crucified by racists.


edit on 8 25 2017 by tadaman because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 07:39 AM
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a reply to: tadaman

Did I call you a nazi? nope I was talking about neo.



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