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Far-right smear campaign against Antifa exposed

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posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 05:33 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6



When I said "both premises" I was referring to ANTIFAP and BLM. Racism and sexism is, by definition, holding different demand, expectations, and benefits for people based on their skin color and.or sex/sexuality. BLM is widely on record with demands related to what they demand from "white males" and ANTIFAP has stood with them in those demands in so much as BLMs demands are focused on people other than ANTIFAP... (though when the attention swings, both groups turn hostile against each other, a fact which America would be wise to exploit the hell out of and resolve this miniature uprising with the best outcome possible.)


I can agree to a point, but I'm unsure who actually speaks for Antifa. There doesn't seem to be a hierarchy that manages their positions and such.

I agree with Antifa on the issue of anti-fascism.

I agree with BLM on their message of institutional racism and such. But I do think they have gone too far.



Any group that either gets its way or tears up jack is the definition of entitlement, at least in so much as most tantruming children throw their little baby tantrums because they believe they are entitled to receive their demands.


I can agree, though I'm still not convinced that applies to antifa. BLM has taken it too far for my liking. They lost me the moment they demanded reparations.

Though I think BLM went too far because we were not willing to listen to their grievances and understand where they were coming from. They went more "extreme" to get the attention that we failed to give them.

So we have some blame to bear on that part.




posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 05:34 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: neo96

I'm confused. Reading that quote FDR was pro-rights for minorities.


What's confusing about it ?

Contrary to popular DOGMA from the fake news outlets.

'Natzees' are a minority group.

They have the same rights as every one else.

DEAL WITH IT.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 05:35 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: introvert

Thus why I use "Antifa" in quotes. The people I know that this site would consider "Antifa" are primarily involved with Black Bloc.


Correct. Those are the fools we see on the street.

I know a few that call themselves Antifa.

They do more talking and awareness outreach than anything else. You would never see them on the streets.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 05:35 PM
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originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: neo96

I'm confused. Reading that quote FDR was pro-rights for minorities.


What's confusing about it ?

Contrary to popular DOGMA from the fake news outlets.

'Natzees' are a minority group.

They have the same rights as every one else.

DEAL WITH IT.


Except they have a history of Burning Jews, Homosexuals, handicapped and other minorities in ovens. It would be prudent to make sure they don't do that again. No one has a right to do that.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 05:37 PM
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a reply to: amazing

In Germany.

Stop conflating the year 2017 with 1930s NAZI Germany.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 05:37 PM
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originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: neo96

Nine Quotes from Winston Churchill that are Completely Fake


Who cares.


Not you. You seem to like fake.


Thanks for telling me I do.

I mean what would I ever do without you telling me what I think.



Well, its obviously not "substantive" conversation.



Truly isn't.

Constantly running around crying nazis are out to git ya.

Might I suggest a tin foil hat?


Only if it's the foil hat you were wearing when you said Obama was going to confiscate all of our bacon.


I'd buy that for a dollar.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 05:39 PM
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a reply to: introvert

Better than running around trying to justify bigotry trying to silence my political opposites like the naziphobes are currently doing.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 05:39 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: amazing

In Germany.

Stop conflating the year 2017 with 1930s NAZI Germany.



No, I'm comparing Nazis' with Nazis. If they'd like to change their names to some kind of fascist or socialist or nationalist label without the swastikas and nazi symbolism than I'll give em a change to speak.

But. a Nazi is a Nazi. Stop oppologizing for Nazis. They're bad people. They don't deserve a chance to commit a holocaust again.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 05:40 PM
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a reply to: amazing

The ONLY nazis that are still around today would be living in South America.

If they lived that long.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 05:40 PM
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a reply to: neo96

They were also a minority group in 1938. I doubt FDR, let alone the rest of the country, would have shed a tear if one were executed on the Capitol steps.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 05:40 PM
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"BLM" is not a unified group.

"ANTIFA" is not a unified group.

NAZIS and WHITE SUPREMACISTS just held a UNIFY THE RIGHT rally which was intended for intimidation and terrorist attacks.

"Black Lives Matter" is an idea ... oppose the unfair deaths of Black people at the hands of police officers.

"ANTIFA" is an idea ... oppose fascists wherever they are found.

What are the ideas of the Nazis and White Supremacists? What are they founded on?

Hatred of Jews, Blacks, LGBT.

Violent reclamation of America.

Ever wonder where the slogan "America First" came from???




posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 05:42 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: amazing

The ONLY nazis that are still around today would be living in South America.

If they lived that long.



Weird. Then why do these peeps in the US call themselves Nazis, and have swastikas and other nazi symbolism? I'd be inclined to believe them and give them the benefit of the doubt. Therefore...they are Nazis. No?



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 05:42 PM
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You're right. We really should refer to them as neo-Nazis. I mean at least the Nazis had the excuse of Love of Country. All neo-Nazis have is Hatred of Non-Whites.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 05:42 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: neo96

They were also a minority group in 1938. I doubt FDR, let alone the rest of the country, would have shed a tear if one were executed on the Capitol steps.


You mean the same people that locked up the japanese in fema camps of the era.

They wouldn't have.

There are lessons to be learned from what's been going on.

The antis have crossed the line from ALL REASON and SANITY.

Justifying killing their own neighbors.

Simply because they THINK they are nazis.

Not even PROVEN.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 05:42 PM
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Why does the left call themselves liberal ?

They sure the hell aren't.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 05:44 PM
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originally posted by: neo96

Simply because they THINK they are nazis.

Not even PROVEN.





edit on 24-8-2017 by Gryphon66 because: Nah ... not proven at all.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 05:44 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: amazing

Why does the left call themselves liberal ?

They sure the hell aren't.


But they think they are. Just like, why do conservatives call themselves conservatives...they really aren't. But they think they are as well and they will do what they think a conservative should do. Well besides lowering taxes and shrinking government. LOL

But we're talking about Nazis' here. Totally different thing. You aren't familiar with WW2? You should read up. They were really bad.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 05:46 PM
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You act like I think the internment camps were good.

At the same time WWII-era Japanese-Americans =/= modern neo-Nazis.

One was just a group of people that happened to live in the US during a terrible time. The other chose to join a group of people that have the express goal of eliminating about half the country.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 05:46 PM
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Well if people are nazis by what they wave around.

That means the antis are NAZIS.

Waving BIGOTRY and hatred in everyones face.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 05:47 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: introvert

Better than running around trying to justify bigotry trying to silence my political opposites like the naziphobes are currently doing.



Bigots like the KKK and the White Supremacists deserved to be shouted down. We can give them their right to free speech, but we have to the right to speak back.

And if they come down the street in the middle of the night with torches and weapons screaming hatred and threatening violence, they may, just prepare yourself, they may just deserve a kick in the teeth.

Bigotry against the KKK and White Supremacy is ok in my book.

Do you disagree?



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