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Let´s talk about the usage of "NAZI".

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posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 10:13 AM
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a reply to: icanteven

Well that just makes you a fool, huh?

Obama was a socialist. Hitler was socialist.

Trump is republican who abolished non-republican ideals such as Obama Care.

Both Hitler and Obama were socialist.

Both Hitler and Obama had "youth" groups.

Both Hitler and Obama made government health care available.

Both spoke widely on animal rights and environmental problems.

Trump is nothing like Hitler. If all you have on Trump is that he isn't going to let illegals or terrorist in country that makes you a moron who would be shot and killed in streets of places like Syria because you're athiest, or gay, or trans, or Christian, or Jew..




posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 10:17 AM
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a reply to: neo96

More propaganda. All Nazis are murderers. The only president that said he could murder is a Republican one, Trump.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 10:18 AM
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a reply to: MOMof3

And you are a god damn liar, I tell you.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 10:28 AM
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a reply to: verschickter
I think you are being a bit pedantic there verschickter. I would be most enlightened if you could find somewhere in Germans history under AH where any German called themselves a nazi, Nazi or NAZI.
I think this was a term coined by the Allies not the Germans so in consequence it's quite moot about the z.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 10:47 AM
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a reply to: crayzeed

Pedantic or not, Z or not, it doesn´t matter because it is defined how I presented it. There is a difference and I pointed it out. It´s up to everyone to decide now if they want to use it the way they did or learn.

I´m not demanding it either, I´m just showing.

Also, I didn´t even write that:


I would be most enlightened if you could find somewhere in Germans history under AH where any German called themselves a nazi, Nazi or NAZI.

That´s not the point. The point is (I explained at least 10 times).



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 10:52 AM
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a reply to: MOMof3
It´s very easy to accuse someone, it´s harder to accept and rectify something. If you had a spine, you at least would say a sentence or or two, after you falsely accused me of being a sympathisant of the nazi-culture without any evidence at all.

But I guess that´s seen as acceptable today, accusing someone of something and then walk away shrugging the shoulders. You´d never would do that in real life, without your safe space to hide in I bet.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 10:53 AM
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a reply to: Painterz
Well if you disagree that British Naval had nothing to do with final solution I suggest you look into the Madagascar plan.

"The plan was not viable due to the British naval blockade. It was postponed after the Nazis lost the Battle of Britain in September 1940, and it was permanently shelved in 1942 with the commencement of the Final Solution, towards which it had functioned as an important psychological step"
en.m.wikipedia.org...

As far as him being left or right it doesn't really matter that much. I see him as more left than right because his views are mixed. Such as..
Environment Crisis, Animal Rights, Health Care, Increased Wages, Government Educational systems.. all of these are VERY left wing. I won't argue he had right wing views but to me.. on a side by side comparison he was walking left foot first.

I won't disagree about Republics and Nationalism. A right wing Christian rule of governing is always a good idea to the right, however didn't mean the left wanted to go to war with them either. No one wanted to get involved because communism was a threat and people in America didn't give a crap about Jews or Communist. Just because you're a nationalist doesn't make you a socialist where the left is based primarily on socialism.

You can call the right nationalist capitalist but not national socislist. If Hitler was a right-wing National Capitalist I would agree wholeheartedly that it was right winged but right wing people do not believe in big gorvernment or socialism which is the main building block of the national socislist party.

Again, just because you have a culture with Catholic/Protestant ideals and you don't want to melting pot your people don't mean you're a racist. All his allies was non-Aryan people. The Japs thought they was more "evolved" because they have less sweat glands. That's what Eugenics and Evolution does.

When you allow people of different religion such as Islam into Europe they become offended by that culture. Next thing know statues are coming down, can't celebrate Christmas or national holidays.. it becomes a problem. The idea Hitler had is a lot like this Joke.

There are 3 people. 1 white guy, 1 brown guy, and 1 black. They're walking down road where they stumble on a genie lamp. Poof. The genie says "I will grant each of you a wish." The brown and black guy want all their people happy and free in their nation. poof. They are gone. When it is white guys turn all he needs is a ice cold coke because everyone is happy and free in their own nation.

You can not have equal rights in a vast of cultures. It doesn't work. China has right to only allow Chinese people to live there. Africans do this too and so does middle east and in south America. People have a right to want a like minded country. That's not racist. It's not racist to NOT want to see Mexicans flying Mexican flags demanding we give them America back. It's not racist to say NO you can not have Islamic Law here.

See, people want to flock in but they don't want to integrate into it. They don't want to be American.. They want to be Mexican. The Muslims don't want to be American, they want Sharia Law. You can't physically make these people happy because it's NOT OUR CULTURE.

Next thing yknow Christmas is gone. The majority of people have to feel guilty for living here.. going to school.. going church.. having work.. owning a buisness.. it doesn't work.

Racist is saying "White Catholic Nations" are superior to "Islamic African Nations". Thats saying youre better but it isn't racist to say "all blacks should be happy and free in Africa."

It's not racist to say "if you come here learn English" but people want to twist things ubtil we no longer have anything fundamental anymore.

Notice that is why poor nations like those in South America, Asian Pacific, Africa, Middle East loved Hitler. He wasn't against them.. he was all for Islamic Pride.. just not in his country because it wasn't his culture. He wasn't trying to oppress them.. he wanted what was best for those people and what's best is being around like minded people in a mutually accepted culture.

You won't see that in America because it IS A MELTING POT. But Europe isnt. Europe is for white Christian fundamentals just like middle east is for Islamic fundamentals. You start integrating other cultures you get a mass of problems. Like Religious wars.. race wars.. that doesn't strengthen a nation, it dilutes its culture.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 10:55 AM
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Notice that is why poor nations like those in South America, Asian Pacific, Africa, Middle East loved Hitler. He wasn't against them.. he was all for Islamic Pride.. just not in his country because it wasn't his culture. He wasn't trying to oppress them.. he wanted what was best for those people and what's best is being around like minded people in a mutually accepted culture.


The enemy of my enemy is my friend. After that, he would have done the same to them, just that they didn´t realize it at the time. And it shows again how much was known at the time it all went down.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 11:11 AM
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originally posted by: Iostsheep
a reply to: icanteven

Well that just makes you a fool, huh?

Obama was a socialist. Hitler was socialist.

Trump is republican who abolished non-republican ideals such as Obama Care.

Both Hitler and Obama were socialist.

Both Hitler and Obama had "youth" groups.

Both Hitler and Obama made government health care available.

Both spoke widely on animal rights and environmental problems.

Trump is nothing like Hitler. If all you have on Trump is that he isn't going to let illegals or terrorist in country that makes you a moron who would be shot and killed in streets of places like Syria because you're athiest, or gay, or trans, or Christian, or Jew..


If I'm a fool, why would you even both responding?

Your tropes about national socialism being akin to socialism are boring and have been addressed many times on ATS. As a fool, I don't believe I'm qualified to address them anyway.

I haven't seen someone use animal rights and environmentalism as somehow being Nazi in nature. That's a new one.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 11:14 AM
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A nazi is probably someone who advocates the extermination of entire groups of people based on their ethnicity,political affiliation,religion etc.For instance someone who advocates the extermination of all whites,blacks,Jews,non-Muslims,TRUMP SUPPORTERS etc..Yep if it walks like a duck,quacks like a duck..it is probably a F-ing NAZI.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 11:16 AM
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a reply to: verschickter

Not really... after the war those nations took to the Nazis fleeing prosecution. It's all propaganda. South American countries loved the idea of Social Nationalism. When Hitler said his views would conquer the world is true because those countries was doing better. You hear all the time how America just made problems worse in middle east because they had the same government systems as Nazis. Free energy, free education, free health care..

Maybe do a Google search and see how images of SS officers in Africa and middle East.. You see them happy and working together. That hasn't ever happened again. We go there and make problems worse.

If having your enemy as a friend he would of been allied with Russians. Basically, the world feared Marxism where UK and Russia loved it. I am not trying to defend the Nazis, but they are a lot better than Communism where all but handful is viewed as cattle for the Gulgag.


Environmental Nazi is a term used quite often.

Mass killing of group of people came after the notion that they couldn't move them out of country. Think of a hostage situation.. If captured agree to allow the hostages to go free you let them. You dont say no and let him come to terms of killing them off. Hitler tried to give Jews Isreal (ironically it only happen ed after he killed Jews rather than before). If we would of just allowed it, it wouldn't of happened.

UK was worried about Hitler, but Hitler was right. Communism was going to try and enslave the world.

I talk to fools to educate. Obviously something is wrong in your denial of historical facts.

All I am saying is, instead of blaiming the Nazis for every problem you have.. look to adjust the mistakes we made by allowing it to reach that point. US and UK and Russia are to blame for WW2 as Nazis.

I don't even agree with National Socialism, I am a Republican. Idon't believe in welfare, free health care.. none of it. I believe in small government based on Christian values. Just saying we are have the Jews blood on our hands. We may not of gassed them, but we shipped them back to Germany.
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posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 11:24 AM
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a reply to: Iostsheep

Not really ...what exactly??

I´m fully aware about Argentinia for example and what went down there and who was found there hiding after years before he was brought to the tribunal. Look at my location we get it shoved down our throats from childhood on.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 11:25 AM
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a reply to: icanteven

Obama, socialist? No, not really. Capitalist is the word you were thinking of there.

And again, Hitler was no socialist, as the thousands of socialists he duped into following his corrupt, far right agenda, found out to their ultimate cost.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 11:27 AM
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a reply to: Raxoxane



A nazi is probably...

Probably? So you admit having no clue from the beginning but go full throttle on your asumptions?



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 11:35 AM
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a reply to: verschickter

Why is it important to you to distinguish between new Nazis and old? Why is it important to you to maintain that word at all? I have family that left Germany when Hitler took power because they knew what he was. And his creepy generals. Then my dad and uncles are sent to fight nazis and the Japanese.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 11:39 AM
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originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: icanteven

Obama, socialist? No, not really. Capitalist is the word you were thinking of there.

And again, Hitler was no socialist, as the thousands of socialists he duped into following his corrupt, far right agenda, found out to their ultimate cost.


I think you meant to respond to the poster that was saying Obama is a socialist. I agree with you that he's a capitalist.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 11:40 AM
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a reply to: TrueBrit

Are you from England? What do you know about being left or right? You're ruler isn't elected, but royalist. Believers in Eugenics and Marxism at that.

Obama is not a capitalist. When you allow free health care you are taking away capitalism to force socialism. People who deny that Hitler was a Socialist have a problem with their brain function and show how little they know about politics. Being wrong isn't the only way to be "different".

These same people are ones who are ignorant enough to be offended by statues that are oppressing people rather than sex traffickers who somehow manage to steal 100,000's of kids a year. That's a real issue.

If you're having Nazis shoved down your throat because you're from South America, it just further proves my point. People wanna put ALL blame on Nazis and not the mistakes we made to escalate the problem.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 11:45 AM
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a reply to: MOMof3

Well, as a nazi sympathisant, as you accused me of being one, the answer should be clear to your or not? Why are you even asking then?

You already know your truth then at least stick to it and don´t ask dumb questions in the light that I´m a nazi sympathisant...



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 11:50 AM
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a reply to: verschickter

Ok.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 11:53 AM
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What did you expect me to answer after you never took back those words? If it´s okay in your eyes to post a lie about someone else and then act like nothing happened, I´ve no interest talking to you anyways! If I talk with someone I expect honesty and not childish games.

You clearly showed none of those treats.



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