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Let´s talk about the usage of "NAZI".

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posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 07:58 AM
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a reply to: Cutepants


Neo-Nazism consists of post-World War II militant, social or political movements seeking to revive the ideology of Nazism.[1] The term neo-Nazism can also refer to the ideology of these movements.[2]

en.wikipedia.org...

dictionary.reverso.net...
www.collinsdictionary.com...




posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 07:58 AM
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originally posted by: verschickter
a reply to: Cutepants

From your link


Definition of Nazi 1 : a member of a German fascist party controlling Germany from 1933 to 1945 under Adolf Hitler


Need I say more? Is this party still in existance? No?


Read definition 2 from same link.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 07:59 AM
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a reply to: ScepticScot
Understand the term derogatory.
Understand the difference between 1) and 2) in a dictionary, while you´re at it.
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posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:04 AM
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@all

keep on ignoring the real terms as it´s used in law enforcement, the law itself and in any courtroom. Yes you are all right and the official definitions are all wrong.

Just so you can justify using the term in a wrong way. I´m out.
edit on 24-8-2017 by verschickter because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:05 AM
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a reply to: verschickter

You think because it is the second definition it doesn't count?



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:09 AM
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a reply to: ScepticScot
Because you misunderstood me:

No, the second definition is most often (!) the non-academic or tongue in cheek usage. It depends on the type of the dictionary and the description how to understand the second term is almost always printed onto the first pages

Generally it´s the more shallow and sometimes tongue in cheek explanation and there is a reason why the 1) is tagged historical. 2) is more general in most cases.

That´s what I ment when I said, understand the meaning of the 2). It´s not the same for every dictionary, you have to read the manifest in the first pages to know how to use it correctly.

Even dictionaries have a "how-to".
edit on 24-8-2017 by verschickter because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:13 AM
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a reply to: Painterz


I would suggest the usage of 'Nazi' that has been getting used most often on ATS lately is the one where it's being used to describe people with extreme racist or authoritarian views.


You forgot to add anyone who defends the principle of free speech. It has been getting used a lot against people who do that too. Basically, on ATS these days, it would be far more accurate to say that it gets used to describe anyone who said something you didn't like or agree with.
edit on 24-8-2017 by ketsuko because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:16 AM
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a reply to: verschickter

Many words in English have more than one definition.

The second listed is not in anyway less a definition than the first.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:17 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko
What´s your view, I think you are educated about the issue (regarding the definition of nazi). What´s the correct definition of a "nazi".



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:22 AM
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a reply to: ScepticScot
Many words in German, too have a second or forth definition. You misunderstood again. It may be my fault!

I´m not saying the second definition is less a definition. Please re-read. Please, take a dictionary (meaning a book) open it up and look what´s written there, regarding the formatation of the single words and the meaning of the different front-tags.

Regardless, I´ve posted at least 5 sources that portray it accurate. The press, the law everyone is aware of the correct usage. But somehow, you and others refuse to understand.

I know I said I´m out but I´m staying for ketsukos input.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:22 AM
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a reply to: verschickter

I've never disputed your definition of Neo-Nazism. The argument was about the word nazi.

What about the words conservative and neo-conservative? Just because there now are people called neo-conservatives doesn't mean there are no longer people called conservatives. Or just because there is now a city called New York, it doesn't mean the old city of York has become obsolete.


a reply to: verschickter

I think usually the most literal definition would be number one. That doesn't make any subsequent definition less valid, as words can have multiple meanings.

Sometimes the first one is very basic and concrete, while number two is more abstract: www.merriam-webster.com...

At other times there is a whole handful of definitions, or even more: www.merriam-webster.com...


a reply to: verschickter

I'm sorry for questioning your official truth.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:26 AM
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a reply to: MOMof3




I still do not understand the difference.


It's easy to grasp.

Nazis were national socialists.

The national socialist german workers party.

Defending the Affordable Care Act is national socialism

Defending the sacred cows medicare,mediciad is national socialism.

Defending the STATE monopoly of healthcare is socialism.

Defending the STATE interventionism in banking and finance is socialism.

To put it bluntly.

EVERY single one one the left( and yes that is who it is) calling the right NAZIS.

Is clueless.
edit on 24-8-2017 by neo96 because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:26 AM
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a reply to: Cutepants
Cute explanation, like I´m not aware of this. Again, actually take a real dictionary and look up the formatting description. It´s not the same for every dictionary.




I'm sorry for questioning your official truth.

My official truth? How ignorant. It´s not my truth. It´s teached in
every class,
the international press uses the correct term (most of the times),
the law knows the difference and also
law-enforcement.
Judges know the difference.

Just because most never heard about it and can´t believe their year long picture of the definition is simply wrong. I mean thats ignorant to the extreme.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:27 AM
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originally posted by: verschickter
a reply to: ScepticScot
Many words in German, too have a second or forth definition. You misunderstood again. It may be my fault!

I´m not saying the second definition is less a definition. Please re-read. Please, take a dictionary (meaning a book) open it up and look what´s written there, regarding the formatation of the single words and the meaning of the different front-tags.

Regardless, I´ve posted at least 5 sources that portray it accurate. The press, the law everyone is aware of the correct usage. But somehow, you and others refuse to understand.

I know I said I´m out but I´m staying for ketsukos input.


Do you accept the dictionary definition of Nazi as correct or not?

ETA :. The term Nazi was not the official name and was meant as derogatory do definition 2 seems more accurate to me.
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posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:28 AM
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a reply to: neo96

I´m glad common sense has arrived.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:29 AM
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originally posted by: verschickter
a reply to: Cutepants
Cute explanation, like I´m not aware of this. Again, actually take a real dictionary and look up the formatting description. It´s not the same for every dictionary.




I'm sorry for questioning your official truth.

My official truth? How ignorant. It´s not my truth. It´s teached in
every class,
the international press uses the correct term (most of the times),
the law knows the difference and also
law-enforcement.
Judges know the difference.

Just because most never heard about it and can´t believe their year long picture of the definition is simply wrong. I mean thats ignorant to the extreme.


Law enforcement and judges where?



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:31 AM
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originally posted by: verschickter
a reply to: neo96

I´m glad common sense has arrived.





posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:33 AM
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a reply to: ScepticScot
look for yourself, I´d say. Meanwhile, type "neonazism" or at least READ ONE source I posted.

To answer your other "yes/no" question. NAME the dictionary.

There´s more than one, you know? And most agree with me, just like -I repeat-

the press
the law
law-enforcement

typically everywhere neonazism is a concern, it´s widely known and accepted.



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:35 AM
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a reply to: neo96
That doesn´t mean our views do not collide in some ways or another, for future reference :-P



posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 08:36 AM
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originally posted by: verschickter
a reply to: neo96
That doesn´t mean our views do not collide in some ways or another, for future reference :-P


Wouldn't expect it any other way.





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