Let´s talk about the usage of "NAZI".

Maybe we are witnessing history in the making here. The brand new "gasp" word for whitey's! The catch all "N" word for the Caucasian. "I didn't say that word, I said nigga, which is ok" (please don't ban my post it's for context).
In the very near future we could see a bastardized version of Nazi that's the norm. Triggers for everybody! Yay!!

a reply to: Sublimecraft

N ewage
A morphic
Z eitgeist
I nitiative

very creative, so from now on, I know you at least know the correct definition but redefined so you can be lazy and spare the three letters in front.. xD

a reply to: verschickter

I can see your point, but then why dont we say "neocommunist"? A 22year old guy from California today who is a communist didnt live in USSR or under any communist regime during the beginng of the 90´s. Sure there are still communist regimes in this world today, or supposed communistregimes. But comón.

Question: Can I call myself a "Stalinist"? Or do I have to say "neostalinist"? (I am by the way not a Stalinist)

I understand what you mean, but I think it is unnecessary to put neo infront of anything. But thats just me, I dont say you are wrong or anything, I just dont agree.

So many people wrong on the first page, yet no one has the spine to say anything after I posted the much asked sources?

That the different is teached in school every damn year?
That law enforcement, the press, the written law, everyone is aware of the definition.

But since everyone else is unaware or ignorant, it´s just not like that!

The best part is the german living in the UK, thinking that the word "nation" is written "nazion". If you went to school in Germany, you´ve written, read and heard the word "nation" a million times.

Ask any german pupil he´ll educate you on the issue in no time.

a reply to: Nettlas
Do you understand the meaning of the word definition?

Because the word NAZI was defined to this special circumstance.

The words communist and nationalsocialist, are not bound to any timeframe or historical incident.

a reply to: verschickter

I see, the same way we dont say Sozi to a communist today, instead we should say neosozi? I mean that is, if the word sozi was still used for communists, which it isnt. But IF it was, we should say neosozi, right?

a reply to: Nettlas
Please get your stuff together before you write stuff that is untrue.

en.wikipedia.org...
Because the word "sozi" is a misnomer for someone adhering to a socialdemocraticword view.

But IF it was, we should say neosozi, right?

Is "sozi" a word in the dictionary, defined to a special timeframe? I could not find it.

The word NAZI, that you think is some tongue in cheek term, is actually very well defined and I posted sources multiple times.

a reply to: TexasTruth

No one in possession of their faculties would suggest that all Caucasian persons are Nazis.

If that were the case, then during the Second World War, there would have been no resistance movement in France, the British would not have fought the Nazis, and the Americans would not only have turned up late to the war, as they in fact did, but also failed to arrive at all. The only group suggesting that more people are Nazi than are in fact Nazi, would be those who are accusing the anti-fascists of being about the business of an assault on free speech, rather than being about the business of doing what all decent people do when confronted with actual racist, phobic, genocidal, white supremacist dirt, which is to provide absolute resistance, not only to its actions, but to its existence.

a reply to: verschickter Ok, my bad, I was wrong. Sorry about that.


But still my question stands. Should I call myself a neostalinist today, or is it ok to call myself a Stalinist?

Sorry if I sound rude, it is not my intention, I´m just curious. I think it is the climate here on ATS as of the last few years that have madde evryone so angry, like if you post something today, and I dont agree or question you why it is that you think this and that, everyone take it so personaly. All here on ATS is not aggresive just by questioning the OP. This is called conversation, an exchange of ideas and viewpoints. Dont assume that I think this or that about the word Nazi, you can ask me IF I think this or that way about the term Nazi, but dont put word in my mouth. We can be friendly about it.

Why is it so hard to understand that the term NAZI is bound to a timeframe? Everyone who lived after that timeframe and adopts the views is considered neonazi.

It´s bound to a certain timeframe.

nationalsocialism, communism etc are all terms that ARE NOT bound to a certain timeframe. Because of that the discussion of labling other terms with "neo" is moot.

It´s really not that hard to understand.

a reply to: Nettlas

But still my question stands. Should I call myself a neostalinist today, or is it ok to call myself a Stalinist?

If we adopt the logic and if "stalinist" is a defined term fixed to that timeframe, I´d say it would be appropriate to discern between, yes.

edit: as long as it makes sense of course, because that´s why the term "neo" is used and the whole point of my thread. To discern between a "real" nazi from that time or someone who adopted the ideology later on.

Please, we constantly ignore the exact meanings of words. I realize Germany has specific laws about this stuff, but just because your nation gave rise to the Nazis doesn't mean you get to police how the terms are used.

According to this Sozi is short for socialist and Nazi for national socialist: www.etymonline.com...

I can't swear that's accurate, but just because there is a 'z' in Nazi but not it national, that doesn't mean it's not a valid abbreviation. The Nazi regime is gone but that doesn't prevent anyone from subscribing to their ideology. Do you at least agree that a modern-day national socialist can be called a nazi, even if all neo-nazi's may not qualify?

a reply to: Cutepants

I´m sorry but we do not police, open ANY DICTIONARY.

NAZI = member of national socialistic party.

since this party is nonexistent nowadays, you cant be a NAZI by definition. It´s even in your source!!!!

a reply to: verschickter

If nationalsocialsm and communism are not bound to a time frame, then neither are the terms used to describe advocates of those ideologies.

If those ideologies still exist, are still carried forth by advocates for them, then why do we consider them as being new, when they are nothing of the sort?

a reply to: DAVID64
I agree with your sentiments and should definitely add - I too have been whisked away in this whirlwind of madness.

a reply to: verschickter

My source is a dictionary of etymology, so by definition my source will link the word to the past. If you take your own advice and open a regular dictionary you will find both the modern and the historical definitions of the word: www.merriam-webster.com...

originally posted by: verschicktersince this party is nonexistent nowadays, you cant be a NAZI by definition. It´s even in your source!!!!

originally posted by: verschickterSo I see clueless members here, using the word Nazi, often in the form of "NAZI" maybe to make it more powerfull or clear. Yes I´m talking to you directly now.

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: verschickter

If nationalsocialsm and communism are not bound to a time frame, then neither are the terms used to describe advocates of those ideologies.

If those ideologies still exist, are still carried forth by advocates for them, then why do we consider them as being new, when they are nothing of the sort?

NAZI = member of national socialistic party.

a reply to: Cutepants

From your link

Definition of Nazi 1 : a member of a German fascist party controlling Germany from 1933 to 1945 under Adolf Hitler

Need I say more? Is this party still in existance? No?

The stubborness is reaching new levels here.

People think they are smart and dig out sources thinking they proof a point and then quote exactly what I write.

originally posted by: verschickter
a reply to: Cutepants

From your link

Definition of Nazi 1 : a member of a German fascist party controlling Germany from 1933 to 1945 under Adolf Hitler

Need I say more? Is this party still in existance? No?

Definition of Nazi

1 : a member of a German fascist party controlling Germany from 1933 to 1945 under Adolf Hitler

2 often not capitalized
a : one who espouses the beliefs and policies of the German Nazis : fascist
b : one who is likened to a German Nazi : a harshly domineering, dictatorial, or intolerant person a grammar nazi