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BLM, ANTIFA and left wing extremism.

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posted on Aug, 23 2017 @ 12:14 AM
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I will start of by saying I initially supported BLM, or at least had some sympathy.
US police and" justice" system do handle blacks blacks with far more brutality and harshness than whites.

But BLM lost my support when it went completely loopy with its racism, segregation, demanding reparations, rewriting history and violence. Now its left a rather poor impression in me of its cause and the black community.

Then there is ANTIFA. I hate fascism sure, every sane person does.
But dressing up as ISIS, using violence and denouncing people as fascist who just have diffrent opinions? Well # ANTIFA.


And then there is the Social justice movement. I am all for equal rights of minoritys, disabled and even gays. But its gone completely off the deep end with this multiple gender crap, presenting mental illnesses as lifestyles and pushing agendas in in class rooms and treating certain minority as more important over other groups.
And lets not forget there love affair with Islam..... i am all for freedom of religion. But giving free passes to barabaric behavior of a certain segment of the muslim population in the name of tolerance? NOPE!

My theory is these movments where corrupted by our goverments and peoole like Soros on purpose. These groups and others started off harmless but where infiltrated by agents and agitators with the sole purpose of turning them into extremists and parodys of themselves. The goal being to make these groups lose credibility and power with the majority and also to stir up divisions to keep the masses divided.


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posted on Aug, 23 2017 @ 12:21 AM
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a reply to: Phonixfromtheashes

i'll bite, I agree.

I think most white nationalism thing is a reaction and not to be confused with white supremacist but it seems like semantics could have me labeled as something I am not. A bigot.

There needs to be spotlight on the right as well, the reactionary right but the way this is going down is nothing less than divide and conquer.

Notice how each channel in the MSM picks a side each time? Also notice they don't seem to cover the events as we see them in hundreds of other videos.
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posted on Aug, 23 2017 @ 12:26 AM
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originally posted by: Antipathy17
a reply to: Phonixfromtheashes

i'll bite, I agree.

I think most white nationalism thing is a reaction and not to be confused with white supremacist but it seems like semantics could have me labeled as something I am not. A bigot.

Ahh bigot....the buzzword of today.

I have been labeled a "bigot" myself.
Never used hate speech, denounced people on race ), used ethic slurs or asked for persecution of any group.
But because i critized a culture and countrys i got slapped with the bigot label.

Yet the left can promote hate and violence and demand segregation and thats not "bigotry".


Can someone explain the logic to that?
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posted on Aug, 23 2017 @ 12:31 AM
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a reply to: Antipathy17

Plus every time i get slapped with the label of bigot it just further validates my viewpoint as it shows the extreme left have no valid counter arguments or evidence so can only fight back with shutting down arguments and avoiding actual debate.
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posted on Aug, 23 2017 @ 04:02 AM
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originally posted by: Phonixfromtheashes
Then there is ANTIFA. I hate fascism sure, every sane person does.
But dressing up as ISIS, using violence and denouncing people as fascist who just have diffrent opinions? Well # ANTIFA.


To be fair, ANTIFA idiots always dressed in black and kept their heads covered. You mix up two different things here. They are not dressing as ISIS, they dress to be anonymous, so they can´t be held responsible for the crimes they commit. The anarchy types.



posted on Aug, 31 2017 @ 10:15 AM
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Where are the Black Lives Matter protests in COBB county Georgia?


The video appears to show Lt. Greg Abbott of the Cobb County Police Department speaking to a woman asking her to pick up her phone, according to WSB Atlanta. After she says she’s afraid to put her hands down because she’s “seen too many videos of cops,” Abbott tells the woman, “But you’re not black.”

"Remember, we only shoot black people. Yeah. We kill black people right?” Abbott is heard saying on the video, obtained by WSB Atlanta.


Source: www.msn.com...



posted on Aug, 31 2017 @ 10:19 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

I´ve read the article and even for a foreigner with no humor I can sense the sarcasm. Not saying it was the right thing to do but it was the reaction towards the women because the officer found it insulting to be thrown blindly into a basket?



posted on Aug, 31 2017 @ 10:39 AM
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a reply to: Phonixfromtheashes

I wondered if we could get through a conversation without Soros

And, there we go, never disappoints



posted on Aug, 31 2017 @ 11:30 AM
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Pretty much correct - the white nationalism, blm and antifa movements have all been played by Russian facist, philosopher and Putin advisor to destory Europe and the US.

It's the same reason most on here and the west are more interested in fighting each other than fighting to improve their country/the world as they're completely unaware of jsut how badly we've falled for their 20 year campaign to destroy the West.

In Europe we have the Russian millitary intelligence, GRU, recruiting football hooligans for training by Kremlin members for warfare and taking over Europe (and the US)
20committee.com...

The same has taken place in the US where they've got agent like Duke, Spencer and the like who claims to be creator of the 'alt-right' speading Kremlin propaganda as they were trained to do while living in Moscow

observer.com...

'Richard Spencer and His Kook-Right Ilk Are Agents of Russian Influence - Kremlin intelligence is manipulating the far-right. It’s time to push back.' - John Schindler is a security expert and former National Security Agency analyst and counterintelligence officer. A specialist in espionage and terrorism, he's also been a Navy officer and a War College professor.

Dulgin who was was the leading organizer of the National Bolshevik Party, National Bolshevik Front, and Eurasia Party. He is the author of more than 30 books, among them Foundations of Geopolitics (1997) and The Fourth Political Theory (2009) is also using the the same propaganda tactics to destroy democracy are also being used to get the left to conduct similar actions.

There's a good write up on how badly America is falling for the plans of Putins main advisors here:

www.wired.com...

''A dead dog in Moscow. A dead dissident in London. Twitter trolls run by the Kremlin’s Internet Research Agency. Denial of service attacks and ransomware deployed across Ukraine. News reports from the DC offices of Sputnik and RT. Spies hidden in the heart of Wall Street. The hacking of John Podesta’s creamy risotto recipe. And a century-old fabricated staple of anti-Semitic hate literature.

At first glance these disparate phenomena might seem only vaguely connected. Sure, they can all be traced back to Russia. But is there any method to their badness? The definitive answer, according to Russia experts inside and outside the US government, is most certainly yes. In fact, they are part of an increasingly digital intelligence playbook known as “active measures,” a wide-ranging set of techniques and strategies that Russian military and intelligence services deploy to influence the affairs of nations across the globe.''


The problem is they're so utterly brilliant at sowing the seeds of confusion that none of us are really aware of what they're up to and what their true intentions are.


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posted on Aug, 31 2017 @ 11:54 AM
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originally posted by: verschickter

originally posted by: Phonixfromtheashes
Then there is ANTIFA. I hate fascism sure, every sane person does.
But dressing up as ISIS, using violence and denouncing people as fascist who just have diffrent opinions? Well # ANTIFA.


To be fair, ANTIFA idiots always dressed in black and kept their heads covered. You mix up two different things here. They are not dressing as ISIS, they dress to be anonymous, so they can´t be held responsible for the crimes they commit. The anarchy types.


It goes further back than that - it was a neccecity when half a million ordinary working people volunteered to defend the repulican spanish government from a hostile, facist take-over by hitler, musolini, franco.

The rest of the world were sitting on their hands doing nothing for five years while the black bloc and international brigades were volunteering to sacrifice everything they could for freedom and democracy. Even today when we're internationally called heroes in most nations - the UN is still uncovering mass graces and genocides of the volunteers who went to fight before any government was willing to stand up to hitler, musolini franco in WW2.

Please don't take their sacrifice and name in vain - while it may not be known in the US, in the rest of the world there's yearly mass public celebrations in rememberance of them and monuments hailing them as heroes.

Here's the real history of AntiFa, No Parasan - the polar opposite of what people in the states believe thanks to hollywood history where the US saved everyone in WW2.

'The International Brigade Memorial Trust keeps alive the memory and spirit of the men and women from Britain, Ireland and elsewhere who volunteered to defend democracy and fight fascism in Spain from 1936 to 1939.'

"The men who fought and those who died for the [Spanish] Republic, whatever their nationality and whether they were communists, anarchists, socialists, poets, plumbers, middle class professional men, or the one Abyssinian prince, were brave and disinterested, as there were no rewards in Spain. They were fighting for us all, against the combined force of European fascism. They deserved our thanks and our respect and got neither."

So please educate yourself here in respect to those fallen www.international-brigades.org.uk...



posted on Aug, 31 2017 @ 12:05 PM
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Also why all the claims they're behaving like ISIS when 19,000+ have voluntered to defend the yazidis, houthis, kurds, christians and sunni Muslims from ISIS brand of Islamic Facism the past 18 years?



posted on Aug, 31 2017 @ 12:08 PM
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originally posted by: Antipathy17
a reply to: Phonixfromtheashes

i'll bite, I agree.

I think most white nationalism thing is a reaction and not to be confused with white supremacist but it seems like semantics could have me labeled as something I am not. A bigot.

There needs to be spotlight on the right as well, the reactionary right but the way this is going down is nothing less than divide and conquer.

Notice how each channel in the MSM picks a side each time? Also notice they don't seem to cover the events as we see them in hundreds of other videos.


Thankyou for seeing sense. Couldn't agree more.



posted on Aug, 31 2017 @ 12:58 PM
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a reply to: bastion

No more Russia hysteria please



posted on Aug, 31 2017 @ 01:35 PM
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a reply to: bastion

First of all, educate yourself about the one you talk to before you suggest to the one to "educate yourself".

What is your point here other than explaining away the fact that those naming themself "antifa" do cover their spineless bodys so they can beat up others and vandalize?

You want to tell me those are opressed by the government today and need to cover their faces to not get hunted down because they are opressed?? Or is it because they are scumbag criminals?

I live in Germany where Antifa for decades brought nothing good. They can´t argue and most of their "culture" is rooted in the leftist anarchy punk scene who cannot pick up their ass to get a job but instead mourn aroudn how unfair the world is to them.

"capitalism" is evil yet they have no idea what living in a non democratic communist state means, but still endorse it.




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