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posted on Aug, 23 2017 @ 12:24 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

That is what I am saying. The media and the government is fueling this. The "agenda" even trickle down to ATS. We all recognize some ATS menbers who contribute to that. We might have disagreements but they push the division further. Sorry I am too buzzd to discuss further.




posted on Aug, 23 2017 @ 12:40 AM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

Haha, no reason to apologize, I'm in the same boat.

Good talk, that's why we're here. You can find true discussion here. In many ways this place is therapy and a small social sample of what society is doing.

Its therapy in that you can say what you want. And it's a small social experiment on that you can say what you want haha. Some choose to use it for different outlets.



posted on Aug, 23 2017 @ 06:43 AM
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originally posted by: JinMI
Media divisiveness. It's pervades our social lives in different fashions. Through this Americans have been pushed, some to their mental limits, right to the fringe. Although their core beliefs may not even reside there. Counter point views hurling unfounded names doesn't help the cause and the need to refute those claims is on the rise.

Alt-right media and stances don't represent me. I'm not a part of their crowd, I don't read Breitbart and outside of entertainment, I don't go perusing Infowars or their contributors. Conservatives also aren't a proper representation as I am not a religious person nor do I think their beliefs belong in our school.

Ctrl-left. Suppression if not outright censoring of opposing or even hate speech is not something I agree with. First world problems from a small faction being forced in our society is not only wrong but it is a step backwards in my estimation. Globalism and socialism, while sounding great on paper, are not a lasting solution.

I choose Delete. I will not be boxed into a corner. I will not choose a side and labels. I will not assimilate.

New ideas and actual progress, not represented in the progressive party mind you, are what it takes. To that new information and discussion need to be had. Throwing down lines in the sand and shutting out opposing views are central to the divisive rhetoric we see today. You may not agree with but understanding is paramount to denying ignorance.

Time for a reboot.




Ummm...welcome to the...other...other side...

I'm going to continue what I started the other day...I'm going to reach across to those who my assininity placed on some imaginary other side...I'm damned tired of just coasting along and being part of the divide...

These issues aren't insurmountable...everyone I've labeled a leftist or prog...especially on this site never deserved any rancor from me...so the eff what if I don't agree with what they had for lunch...They're here...much the same as I am...not to be abused...but to communicate...to be a part of this community...

It's a strange feeling...cause some of you have tiny feet...but I'll walk that mile in your shoes...even if I have to steal them from your unwilling closet...

I'm done with this manufactured divisiveness...We're better than that...If we're going to claim an enlightened mindset then by GOD it's time we started acting like the definition...

Anyhow...my friends...Care for a ...?


Thank you JinMi...for letting me borrow your soapbox...maybe I'll keep it...



YouSir



posted on Aug, 23 2017 @ 07:27 AM
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a reply to: YouSir

For what it's worth, I'm rather fond of you ummmmmmm assininity!

Not my soapbox mind you, simply rented.





posted on Aug, 23 2017 @ 09:13 AM
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originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: angeldoll

You say Trump, I say the media.

Think this debate could stay that way or will it get blown into the aether of the fringe?


I started to list the media in naming those we are blaming. All they are doing is having a field-day with all that is going on in Trump's mind, and through his actions.

He provides them with so many things every day to feed on and regurgitate, and why wouldn't they? It's part of their function. Without him constantly fueling the flames there would be no need for it.

So, Nope. It's him. It's crystal clear. We have a social environment now of unrest that we haven't seen since the sixties.

He's always talking about Lincoln. Maybe he too, wants to be a "President" during a civil war. Maybe he thinks it will seal his place in history. Only he is the root cause of it; the complete antithesis to Honest Abe.

Anyway I won't derail your thread from whatever you wanted it to be. But Donald Trump is trying like hell to cause even more social unrest, and he's accomplishing it. His motivation is anybody's guess.



posted on Aug, 23 2017 @ 09:19 AM
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Am I the only one that saw the title and thought hey the web comic?

Yea... really... I feel old.



posted on Aug, 23 2017 @ 05:24 PM
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I belong to the side that believes most in individuals and their right to do as they choose.

Since the left is so hot on collectivizing everything no matter what I might think about that, then they automatically lose. There's no room there for someone who doesn't want to be assimilated into their collective and I don't really want to be.

So that leaves me out. I either try to exist on no side or I join the right. But even if I don't join the right openly, since I reject the left, they will put me on the right.



posted on Aug, 23 2017 @ 05:25 PM
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a reply to: angeldoll

No, The press's function was supposed to be to report what happens, not speculate on what think is inside someone's head.



posted on Aug, 23 2017 @ 05:28 PM
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a reply to: angeldoll

That's something interesting to see. You perfectly described the problem while at the same time missing it completely.

The pen is blue, the PEN IS BLUE!!!



You're not derailing. You haven't tossed anyone into a box nor insulted any members.



posted on Aug, 23 2017 @ 05:30 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

I wrote this OP after reading and watching the rally last night. The narrative is clear, they want a (#)# civil war. They being the media and their financial contributors and to wit, maybe even the gov't as well.

The only way that goal is realized is if you dig in on you're chosen side. I will not. I will remain to speak and think freely....well as far as my faculties let me!



posted on Aug, 23 2017 @ 06:09 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

Do they want Civil War or Revolution? Think carefully about that. Civil War implies there will possibly be a place for those of us who disagree afterward. Revolution is nothing less than the dissolution of the nation for whatever they choose to put in its place, and make no mistake, we all know that if we aren't with them, we are against them and there will not be a place for us in their brave new world.



posted on Aug, 23 2017 @ 06:11 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: JinMI

Do they want Civil War or Revolution? Think carefully about that. Civil War implies there will possibly be a place for those of us who disagree afterward. Revolution is nothing less than the dissolution of the nation for whatever they choose to put in its place, and make no mistake, we all know that if we aren't with them, we are against them and there will not be a place for us in their brave new world.


Oh God. That's drama queen junk even for you. Our country will settle down, you will settle down, the world will settle down, everything will settle down once we get this incompetent racist idiot out of office. Calm down.
edit on 8/23/2017 by angeldoll because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 23 2017 @ 06:13 PM
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originally posted by: lordcomac
It's been what, almost half a century since there was this much advertised unrest?

Back then it was real- it was in the streets, it was happening.

Now, it's on TV, and the internet. Sure, there are localized events almost every week, but they're effect is on a tiny percent of the population... Yet covered coast to coast 24/7 until the next event.

Seems More like a gameshow than reality.

The powers that be want to reboot America- and they'll get it.
Shame I'm not ready.


Another thing: Am I the only one that's noticed that these "localized events" are invariably localized to the cities? If all the crap we're supposed to get so riled up about/be afraid of really is a big a thing as is being portrayed, why is this crap only happening in the city?



posted on Aug, 23 2017 @ 06:13 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Fair enough. For now given your terms, I think I'll stick with civil war. They seem more than happy to allow for any dissenters from outside their PoV to come and show proof and draw reparations. Not to mention can't miss out on the virtue signaling!

Conversely, any semblance of an economic/fiscal plan in recent years has come up short to say the least. The thing is about revolution, is that you need to be prepared to win. I've seen no such plan that could replace our system even in its deeply troubled state.



posted on Aug, 23 2017 @ 06:14 PM
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originally posted by: angeldoll

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: JinMI

Do they want Civil War or Revolution? Think carefully about that. Civil War implies there will possibly be a place for those of us who disagree afterward. Revolution is nothing less than the dissolution of the nation for whatever they choose to put in its place, and make no mistake, we all know that if we aren't with them, we are against them and there will not be a place for us in their brave new world.


Oh God. That's drama queen junk even for you. Our country will settle down, you will settle down, the world will settle down, everything will settle down once we get this incompetent racist idiot out of office. Calm down.


You've lost the plot. This didn't start with Trump, he's the result.



posted on Aug, 23 2017 @ 06:23 PM
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"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered! My life is my own."

No. 6

I like delete, too.



posted on Aug, 23 2017 @ 06:29 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: angeldoll

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: JinMI

Do they want Civil War or Revolution? Think carefully about that. Civil War implies there will possibly be a place for those of us who disagree afterward. Revolution is nothing less than the dissolution of the nation for whatever they choose to put in its place, and make no mistake, we all know that if we aren't with them, we are against them and there will not be a place for us in their brave new world.


Oh God. That's drama queen junk even for you. Our country will settle down, you will settle down, the world will settle down, everything will settle down once we get this incompetent racist idiot out of office. Calm down.


You've lost the plot. This didn't start with Trump, he's the result.


No, I haven't missed the plot. Your blinders are apparently too thick to see what's happening. It's not the media.
It's TRUMP. He is bringing out the very worse of the American people, the worse in ATS, the worse in all of us.
He's either doing it to amuse himself, or he's too stupid to realize the impact he's having. It's a crap shoot.

And it's getting worse. Have you listened to his speeches? When they are "okay" and "Presidential" all that tells us is what the person who wrote the speech thinks, or how they put together some words they think might be strategically helpful for damage control.

When he goes off on a tirade, and sounds stupid and belligerent, that's Donald Trump. The racist. The idiot. The incompetent pos who lied himself into the white house.



posted on Aug, 23 2017 @ 06:33 PM
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a reply to: angeldoll

The hyperbole would seem to indicate that there is a bias too heavily weighed to have a proper opinion on a centrist discussion.



posted on Aug, 23 2017 @ 06:34 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: angeldoll

The hyperbole would seem to indicate that there is a bias too heavily weighed to have a proper opinion on a centrist discussion.


Look, you can try to run me off your thread as much as you want. IDGARA. But stop trying to make it sound like it's somehow an "elite idea". It's not. Get over yourself.



posted on Aug, 23 2017 @ 07:04 PM
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a reply to: angeldoll

Now you're the victim?


Oh please.



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