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Leftists Destroy Oldest Christopher Columbus Monument in the Nation

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posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 08:58 PM
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originally posted by: NightFlight
I believe we should shoot them on sight when we see vandalism like this.

We should use them to bring back the MOST terrifying invention ever created by man: The Stocks.

Just need to lock them up for a fortnight and leave a jar of Vaseline and a whip nearby. Society will do the rest.




posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 09:20 PM
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Let me say that years ago, probably in the mid 1990s... I was at a tavern in Phoenix AZ

I place I rarely went to for a Saturday beer after shopping...

I worked at a engineering outfit which serviced the Garrett Jet Engines plant of Allied Signal...and we had maybe 15% of the men there were Native American ... 99% of them were riled up about a Christopher Columbus Statue placed downtown very near the Suns Basketball Arena....

this guy I met that afternoon-ish stated to me that he had sloshed red paint on the Columbus Statue in a show of disrespect for the majority of Americans that praised Columbus for discovering the new world

...."Indigenous People's Day" and are observed to protest the celebration of Columbus Day. They believe Columbus's discovery led to the eradication of natives, their homeland and their culture....


do a search... he has been a target for decades already



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 09:35 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian


Are we going to lose historians, history books, various archives (newspaper, magazine, film, etc), the Internet and oral tradition?

Yeah, because nobody goes anywhere for no reason.



In 2016, U.S. travel and tourism output represented 2.7 percent of gross domestic product. While the majority of activity in the industry is domestic, expenditures by international visitors in the United States totaled $244.7 billion in 2016, yielding an $83.9 billion trade surplus for the year.

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Wait until those monuments are effected. The "industry," especially at the local level would have a hard time adjusting after people become forced to visit a library or kiosk to "see" and learn about history.

I also wouldn't want our history's integrity to be contingent on the need for electricity. If we don't denounce it, it will only get worse. As the Freemasons would agree, monuments have their place.

Let the majority decide to relocate them.


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posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 09:50 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell

Though, I am not a big anti statue person. Most GEN xers don't know Robert E Lee from Lee Harvey Oswald...

The point here is that they can have all the statues they want but not on government property


They can have them in the museums, their backyard but NOT my tax money




Your tax money requires with every new construction project some amount going to public art.
If you do not like it do not support the national endowment for the arts.



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 11:00 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: Konduit

So you’re comparing them to ISIS?

Ridiculous


Isis destroys ancient relics out of depraved religious dogma


These statues of Columbus taken down are because he did deeds just as ISIS did in his time.


Their destroying a symbol of evil


ISIS destroys out of malice, depraved bigotry and ignorance


To compare the two its preposterous





First you say it's preposterous to compare this pointless B.S. destruction to ISIS, and then say:



These statues of Columbus taken down are because he did deeds just as ISIS did in his time.


Huh? Is ISIS a person? I never have agreed with anything you write, although it's your right to do so....but this is just a hurried excuse for sick vandalism.

Maybe I don't like your house / apartment / trailer because it was built on the back of illegal labor and celebrates the 'oppression' of brown people. I would very much like to come in the dead of night with idiots holding cell phones, and tear it down.

WHERE DOES THIS END? In some kind of communist / socialist paradise where any people of color are handed over the savings, the property, the cars, and other knick-knacks of the white people, and then white people go through genocide so POC feel better?

Blood will run in the streets first. You are NOT on the right side of history, and YES, this type of vandalism of history is exactly like ISIS. Crude, angry, destructive, that comes from a dogma of "we didn't make it in life, it's your fault, we will destroy you." ISIS destroys art from their ancestors. The root cause is the same, splitting hairs is the excuse for these animals.



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 11:39 PM
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originally posted by: whywhynot

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire

originally posted by: whywhynot

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
This is a sad day for the rest of us leftists who would not act in such a manner. These were not leftists but rather indolent children with little concept of the complexities necessary to implement positive steps forward for all Americans of good intent.


Indolent children? Not much of a condemnation. Oh well come on elections!


Well, I could jump up and down and beat my chest screaming all the wonderful names people here on ATS use daily. Would that mark a strong enough condemnation? Ramp up my own vitriol?


You suggest an emotional response which really isn't helpful. A more enlightened condemnation would be to simply state that what they did was wrong, that you disavow their methods and that their values are not your values.

See there wasn't that easy?

Thank you, that was a helpful reply.



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 03:05 AM
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The destroying of statues has CIA all over it,sounds like last 25 yrs of middle east,ISIS,Al Quida are CIA,only ones who don't believe are dim wit americans



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 03:05 AM
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The destroying of statues has CIA all over it,sounds like last 25 yrs of middle east,ISIS,Al Quida are CIA,only ones who don't believe are dim wit americans



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 03:35 AM
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Remember guys.




posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 03:40 AM
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originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: Konduit

So you’re comparing them to ISIS?

Ridiculous


Isis destroys ancient relics out of depraved religious dogma


These statues of Columbus taken down are because he did deeds just as ISIS did in his time.


Their destroying a symbol of evil


ISIS destroys out of malice, depraved bigotry and ignorance


To compare the two its preposterous





You know...the Pyramids were built mostly by slave labor ?

Therefore...Egyptians = evil, Pyramids = symbol of evil...

The parallel to ISIS is well deserved here.



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 03:45 AM
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a reply to: MarioOnTheFly




You know...the Pyramids were built mostly by slave labor ?


Common misconception.


Rather, it was peasants who built the pyramids during flooding, when they could not work in their lands.



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 03:57 AM
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a reply to: Willtell

So long as you agree with them, it's OK.

That's just about as self-righteous an attitude as you can have, and not be knockin' 'em down your own bad self.

Preposterous? Only in magnitude, not in attitude. ISIS thinks those things they're destroying are "evil", too. Amazing how much alike in attitudes they are.


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posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 03:58 AM
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a reply to: MarioOnTheFly

It's out of hand, way out of hand. Silly people with silly ideas trying to knock history to it's knees.

Santa and the Easter Bunny will be next.



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 03:59 AM
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a reply to: Domo1

I agree they also were paid.



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 04:58 AM
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Fvcking Braindead Wankers.



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 07:12 AM
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originally posted by: Domo1
a reply to: MarioOnTheFly




You know...the Pyramids were built mostly by slave labor ?


Common misconception.


Rather, it was peasants who built the pyramids during flooding, when they could not work in their lands.


Hahahahaha...right. Peasants were feeling bored...and just voluntarily decided to break their backs building the pyramid, which apparently lasted some 10 years.

But obviously the Pharaoh was in no rush on this one...they only worked when there was no other work to be done.

Just great man.

By the way...wiki states...that skilled workers built the pyramid in Giza


The Greeks believed that slave labour was used, but modern discoveries made at nearby workers' camps associated with construction at Giza suggest that it was built instead by tens of thousands of skilled workers. Verner posited that the labour was organized into a hierarchy, consisting of two gangs of 100,000 men, divided into five zaa or phyle of 20,000 men each, which may have been further divided according to the skills of the workers.


A 100,00 men they say, crammed together on that plateau...and all were skilled workers
Maybe under skilled workers they mean peasants ?

Makes sense.



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 07:29 AM
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originally posted by: NightFlight
I first thought this antifa manual was b.s., but now it looks like maybe it isn't.

Antifa Manual?

I believe we should shoot them on sight when we see vandalism like this.



notice how they are using a system derived from white cis male power structure to create said manual !

I get it , these people are pissed at the white male privilege power structure which had arisen from, Europe

but they are using the benefits of said system to do as they please

it was the same system that eventually gave them their rights to express their opinions and protect their right to protest.

" do not distribute to white CIS males " , the person that probably wrote that manual is a white cis male


what a load of rubbish this whole movement is , i hope the people involved spend some time self reflecting and then realise what they are doing is a load of rubbish and someone elses Ideals


So I cant join antifa , because Im a cis white male , and if im not antifa im a fascist , so all white people are fascists

how very inclusive antifa are , alo notice they call dwarfs , little people, that isnt very PC

what a load of bull# , antifa is a total joke

every speech and protest they give they goose step further and further to the right


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posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 01:34 PM
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Are we going to lose historians, history books, various archives (newspaper, magazine, film, etc), the Internet and oral tradition?


Ahem.



[Roosevelt] was always... finding new victims to loot and new followers to reward, flouting common sense, and boldly denying its existence, demonstrating by his anti-logic that two and two made five, promising larger and larger slices of the moon. His career will greatly engage historians, if any good ones ever appear in America, but it will be of even more interest to psychologists. He was the first American to penetrate to the real depths of vulgar stupidity. He never made the mistake of overestimating the intelligence of the American mob. He was its unparalleled professor. April 15, 1945


The cherry on top.



The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots. The demaslave is one who listens to what these idiots have to say and pretends to believe it himself. Part 2, chapter 4


Choose wisely demagogue or demislave.



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 01:54 PM
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If the evil statues are removed from public land that should satisfy the offended. Now that the dolts whacked Christopher, Joan of Arc's NO statue seems to be in line for some burning. No one knows why, especially the destructive idiots tearing down statues. Maybe they'll come up with a reason. Teddy Roosevelt committed some sin, so he is on the list, too. The founding fathers owned slaves so remove all reference to them, also. Dublin must be razed as it was founded by Vikings who were the biggest slavers in the dark ages. The Greeks and Romans had slaves; goodbye Athens and Rome. Iceland, home of the vaunted Althing, had more slaves than landowners. Melt it. The Caliphate had slaves; Islam must go, too.
As we take this to it's logical conclusion, who were the people who sold the slaves to dealers in Africa to be resold to the English slavers? Africans, of course. The tribes fought one another and the captives were historically enslaved. Then, they discovered, like their fellow travelers the Vikings, that there was cash in slaves so the started selling them off like cattle. There were slaves there before the English and there are still slaves in Africa. Who to blame? The tribes, of course. MLK's tribe probably sold slaves to the slavers. His statues must come down because of his evil forebears and his philandering. All sins are equivalent. Harriiet Tubman's tribe likely sold slaves to the slavers. Down she comes, too.
How do you think that would go over?
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posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 02:15 PM
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Christopher Columbus?


This, I have no problem with, unlike the confederate statues.

Christopher Columbus was a buffoonish, greedy, mass killing, genocidal idiot.

We only started worshiping Chris, to appease the Italian Immigrants who wanted a holiday of their very own, and latched onto a "false" narrative. I forget the Author who wrote a very misleading biography of Christopher Columbus that most of his folklore comes from.

Columbus didn't discover America. I don't think he even set foot here. He didn't discover the earth was round, they already knew that. he was trying to find a shortcut to India and landed far short. Torturing and killing to find their gold. He was a horrible human being. Reducing the Tanto peoples from almost 300,000 to 200. Killing women and children to find gold and more gold.

It would be like putting a statute of Jeffrey Dahmer up. Seriously.
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