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Leftists Destroy Oldest Christopher Columbus Monument in the Nation

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posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 07:55 PM
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originally posted by: TerryMcGuire

originally posted by: whywhynot

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
This is a sad day for the rest of us leftists who would not act in such a manner. These were not leftists but rather indolent children with little concept of the complexities necessary to implement positive steps forward for all Americans of good intent.


Indolent children? Not much of a condemnation. Oh well come on elections!


Well, I could jump up and down and beat my chest screaming all the wonderful names people here on ATS use daily. Would that mark a strong enough condemnation? Ramp up my own vitriol?


You suggest an emotional response which really isn't helpful. A more enlightened condemnation would be to simply state that what they did was wrong, that you disavow their methods and that their values are not your values.

See there wasn't that easy?




posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 07:56 PM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Konduit

I don't think you know what actual book burning is. That ain't it. This was just burning a small pile of copies of "The Art of the Deal" — that book that somebody wrote and Donald is always taking credit for — for the purpose of click bait. It wasn't legit book burning, it doesn't even appear to a proper (though amateurish) political statement.

What you're talking about with book burning is pretty well impossible in this day and age. Who would even attempt to purge the world of an idea by burning books in 2017? It makes no actual sense as a threat.

It's not a valid concern and so, again, a wholly specious argument.


Just as with statues, it will start with one book and eventually include more.



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 07:57 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Willtell

While your points may have some merit, be careful.

You just might find yourself and the heel of a ISIS sympathizer allegation.


That's utter BS

You speak with forked tongue as big as Trumps ego

THERES NOT A MEMBER OF THIS FORUM WHO HAS DENOUNCED ISIS MORE THAN ME

I DENOUNCED OBAMA VOCIFEROUSLY BECASUE HE DIDNT FIGHT ISIS


You know what they say about those that condemn things the loudest......I'm not saying you are but........

See how that goes?



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 07:59 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Willtell

Though, I am not a big anti statue person. Most GEN xers don't know Robert E Lee from Lee Harvey Oswald...

The point here is that they can have all the statues they want but not on government property


They can have them in the museums, their backyard but NOT my tax money




Many museums are public, and financed through tax money.


Then private racist museums where you have to show ID and register to get in?



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 08:01 PM
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a reply to: Konduit

Jesus tap dancing Christ, what next? are they gonna tear down statues of Colonel sanders because he portrays a southern stereotype? are they going to take down the Michelin man because he endorses obesity?

That was a monument of cultural and historical significance, and do you know who this will p!$$ off? the Mafia. Italian Americans have a soft spot for Columbus and if ANTIFA irks the mob...well they might not be the force they once were but they might leave the gun and take the cannoli.



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 08:03 PM
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a reply to: Thecakeisalie

You're absolutely right about the Mafia being pissed.
Antifa will be sleeping with the fishes.



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 08:06 PM
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Its ironic - if any of these leftist groups were actually interested in justice, they wouldnt have to rename it to social or racial justice. True justice stands alone and needs no further definition.



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 08:06 PM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Konduit

I don't think you know what actual book burning is. That ain't it. This was just burning a small pile of copies of "The Art of the Deal" — that book that somebody wrote and Donald is always taking credit for — for the purpose of click bait. It wasn't legit book burning, it doesn't even appear to a proper (though amateurish) political statement.

What you're talking about with book burning is pretty well impossible in this day and age. Who would even attempt to purge the world of an idea by burning books in 2017? It makes no actual sense as a threat.

It's not a valid concern and so, again, a wholly specious argument.


I agree totally.

The information of history that is currently available will be impossible to erase.

However, if you can't burn the well, you can poison it.

I feel the destruction of these monuments is symbolic of destroying the image of our country.

It is representative of a movement to make the US and capitalism seem evil.

And while many of the criticisms are true (for example Columbus was a bad guy by all accounts) it ignores the overwhelming positives that the US has achieved.

So the history can't be burned, but enough poison can be added to severely change how history is viewed, and to then use that for political gain.



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 08:07 PM
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a reply to: Thecakeisalie

I have a delightful mental image of that scene in Anchorman 2 where the various network news personnel show up and have a royal rumble against each other, only with ANTIFAP, Knights of Columbus, the Klan, Freemasons, Westboro Bpatists, BlackLives(selectively)Matter, and La Raza all representing.



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 08:07 PM
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originally posted by: pirhanna
Its ironic - if any of these leftist groups were actually interested in justice, they wouldnt have to rename it to social or racial justice. True justice stands alone and needs no further definition.


YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!!


There is no need for qualifier before the word justice!

However, a corrupt government, has created a corrupt justice system......



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 08:11 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Thecakeisalie

I have a delightful mental image of that scene in Anchorman 2 where the various network news personnel show up and have a royal rumble against each other, only with ANTIFAP, Knights of Columbus, the Klan, Freemasons, Westboro Bpatists, BlackLives(selectively)Matter, and La Raza all representing.



We could do a PPV and eliminate the national debt. That escalated quickly.



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 08:12 PM
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Why don't the Asians seem to care about any of this? Why aren't Asians concerned about a racist pro-white society which holds minorities down? Why aren't Asians toppling statues and attacking Nazis?




posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 08:15 PM
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a reply to: MysticPearl

Intelligence ,grace and money isn't it.



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 08:16 PM
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a reply to: MysticPearl

Because they've been too busy bettering themselves, taking education seriously, and working hard, long hours making good money and uplifting their positions to think up new excuses for their personal failures and stereotypical foibles to waste time on this crap. Some people soar with eagles when given the opportunity, other stay in the nest whining about their fear of heights and waiting for the eagles to come to them so they don't feel personal failure.



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 08:23 PM
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originally posted by: Thecakeisalie
a reply to: Konduit

Jesus tap dancing Christ, what next? are they gonna tear down statues of Colonel sanders because he portrays a southern stereotype? are they going to take down the Michelin man because he endorses obesity?

That was a monument of cultural and historical significance, and do you know who this will p!$$ off? the Mafia. Italian Americans have a soft spot for Columbus and if ANTIFA irks the mob...well they might not be the force they once were but they might leave the gun and take the cannoli.


The Michelin Man is white too.
Fat and white... he's a two-fer.



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 08:23 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: MysticPearl

Because they've been too busy bettering themselves, taking education seriously, and working hard, long hours making good money and uplifting their positions to think up new excuses for their personal failures and stereotypical foibles to waste time on this crap. Some people soar with eagles when given the opportunity, other stay in the nest whining about their fear of heights and waiting for the eagles to come to them so they don't feel personal failure.


Amen.

So much is about mindset and ambition. Their culture has it. But just look at your average Joe. Some see opportunity everywhere, while others are so caught up in negativity and crying, opportunity passes them by time and time again.

One person for example, might be sitting there crying over their dead end job and one bedroom apartment and blaming the white man for it. Another will see for a 5% down payment on a mortgage, he can buy a fourplex multi-family unit, live in one of them, rent out the other three, essentially live for free and save money from his job, then later either build equity and sell for profit or reinvest again. Suddenly that guy owns multiple properties and multiple streams of revenue coming in, plus his day job, and his buddy is still crying about oppression in his crappy apartment.

I think we know which route Asians are more likely to take.



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 08:26 PM
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originally posted by: MysticPearl
Why don't the Asians seem to care about any of this? Why aren't Asians concerned about a racist pro-white society which holds minorities down? Why aren't Asians toppling statues and attacking Nazis?


Maybe because they know and have proven that they aren't being held down by another race.

They don't require a scapegoat on which to blame their problems.



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 08:27 PM
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originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Thecakeisalie
a reply to: Konduit

Jesus tap dancing Christ, what next? are they gonna tear down statues of Colonel sanders because he portrays a southern stereotype? are they going to take down the Michelin man because he endorses obesity?

That was a monument of cultural and historical significance, and do you know who this will p!$$ off? the Mafia. Italian Americans have a soft spot for Columbus and if ANTIFA irks the mob...well they might not be the force they once were but they might leave the gun and take the cannoli.


The Michelin Man is white too.
Fat and white... he's a two-fer.


I just had an epiphany.

We are living the ghostbusters remake which was a complete bomb.

The pc crowd totally ruined a movie classic.



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 08:32 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

That is a freaking good analogy.

Just you wait, soon enough there will be a far center anarchist group who will pull down statues then erect them again just to prove their impartiality. I'm thinking of starting my own anarchistic cult called PORN- the Patriotic Organization of Rebellious Nerds.



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 08:40 PM
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a reply to: Konduit

That makes me sad and angry. I'm a huge history buff and destroying historic artifacts is just wrong. Plain and simple. The people who did this exhibit and mimic the behavior of Daesh. Nice rolemodels numbnuts.


What happens if they try to blow up the Lincoln Memorial next? I would no longer put that past them to be honest.

Please don't tell these idiots that there is a gigantic historic structure called the Wall of China. What is the next target of these fanatics the Taj Mahal or the Pyramids of GIza? How about eradicating all our history of the world and reboot the whole system. Perhaps we could also start with calling it the year zero.

Whoever is responsible. Go # yourself. History needs to be preserved.

edit on 21-8-2017 by Perfectenemy because: gremlins hate people who destroy history



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