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posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 10:45 AM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: Simon_Boudreaux

Actually, it's pretty disturbing to witness that his kind of reasoning ought to be disturbing. It's a straightforward perspective and if you wouldn't be so busy being sorry for yourself, in utter ignorance of his arguments, you could have a debate and actually learn something new.

#Tee&Cowards



I was asking questions.

He admits to advocating for the killing of anyone who still supports trump.

Surely this is something you would condemn?


He advocates to eradicate the hatred, which isn't a bad thing at all. I don't need to kill you in order to have you act in a more civil way. It would suffice to educate your silly ass in order to have a decent debate at the roundtable. That's what we do with kids, too, btw.

Look, it would be wise to simply ask questions in order to make you understand points instead of launching waves of attacks. Try one?
edit on 22-8-2017 by PublicOpinion because: (no reason given)




posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 10:51 AM
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Far be it for me to get in the way of a good gang bash but is TrueBrit the topic?



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 10:51 AM
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a reply to: Asktheanimals



So do you think only Fascism is a danger in America?


There are many things that are a danger to America. Right now, fascism is the forefront because of the man we elected president. I am comforted by the fact his support is waning. The extreme Right had their chance and got their guy elected. Now it appears many people are seeing how bad of an idea it was.



There is no danger of equal extremism from the Left?


Not that I see. I don't see any threat from communists or socialists in this country. Hell, we can't even get an universal healthcare system in this country because the "Left" in the US is right of center.

So there does not seem to be any equal.



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 10:58 AM
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a reply to: introvert




There are many things that are a danger to America. Right now, fascism is the forefront because of the man we elected president.

Let me fix that for you.
There are many things that are a danger to America. Right now, a tiny spec of the population will be put on display and made out to be a yuge segment of the population. That tiny spec of the population will be smeared onto the sitting potus so that anyone who does not oppose the sitting potus can be given the same smear. It is ok to commit violence, up to and including wiping these people out, against those who do not oppose the sitting potus.



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 11:00 AM
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originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: Grambler

Here are a few examples:

If Trump gets legislation past the Senate and Congress which redefines the concept of protest or freedom of association, to bar counter-protest, the anti-fascist movement will have to go underground and adopt the guise of insurgency, for the purpose of tearing down the government and eliminating the now empowered fascist groups, wherever they are to be found.

If fascist groups become more numerous or their membership grows, or their rallies increase in size and armament, and the threat they pose therefore increases, then the anti-fascist movement will necessarily have to be more proactive in ridding areas of their fascist populations.

Any attempt to redefine what is meant by certain phrases in the constitution, on the part of a fascist led government, should cause a citizen uprising which results in the termination of the current administrations employment, and their replacement with people who oppose fascist, supremacist ideology.

Any sign that fascist, White Supremacist ideals and the ideals of their apologists, are becoming normalised in the media, or indeed in the White House, should result in civil war.

During these times, people will be expected to either punch, shoot or otherwise defeat fascism, or get out of the way.


You sound like an Antifa apologist, can you be targeted for justified extermination now since you want to allow others to be targeted for extermination?

Anyone with a Trump hat to the gas chambers, you just laid that policy out, which is insane, all brought on because your bias had you believe the Media version of what Trump actually said.



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 11:06 AM
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a reply to: Sublimecraft


Answer carefully, you are teetering on the edge of full-retard with that post comment.


Teetering? More like ran full tilt off the cliff.

Holy #.



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 11:09 AM
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a reply to: TinfoilTP

Punches, or defeating fascism otherwise - via art and science for example, equals extermination?

Damnd! My Krautish forefathers should have skipped that whole Cyclone B part if punches are WMDs already!

Pathetic.



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 11:09 AM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: Simon_Boudreaux

Actually, it's pretty disturbing to witness that his kind of reasoning ought to be disturbing. It's a straightforward perspective and if you wouldn't be so busy being sorry for yourself, in utter ignorance of his arguments, you could have a debate and actually learn something new.

#Tee&Cowards



I was asking questions.

He admits to advocating for the killing of anyone who still supports trump.

Surely this is something you would condemn?


He advocates to eradicate the hatred, which isn't a bad thing at all. I don't need to kill you in order to have you act in a more civil way. It would suffice to educate your silly ass in order to have a decent debate at the roundtable. That's what we do with kids, too, btw.

Look, it would be wise to simply ask questions in order to make you understand points instead of launching waves of attacks. Try one?


Funny, he called me a white supremacsist and a liar over several times.

I did not attack anyone; I merely pointed out what was said.

Calling for the annihilation of a political group through a second civil war through hatred is a bad thing.

I am sorry you feel differently.



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 11:10 AM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: TinfoilTP

Punches, or defeating fascism otherwise - via art and science for example, equals extermination?

Damnd! My Krautish forefathers should have skipped that whole Cyclone B part if punches are WMDs already!

Pathetic.


Go ask the other dude, he was all for exterminating anyone with a Trump hat.



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 11:11 AM
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originally posted by: intrepid
Far be it for me to get in the way of a good gang bash but is TrueBrit the topic?


The topic is extremist views stifling conversations.

We had a member call for the annihilation of all trump supporters.

I would say denouncing that and the members defending it is on topic.

I am sure that you too would condemn this extremist mindset, would you not?



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 11:12 AM
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a reply to: PublicOpinion


I don't need to kill you in order to have you act in a more civil way. It would suffice to educate your silly ass in order to have a decent debate at the roundtable.


Shame some of our other members don't seem to share that opinion.



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 11:13 AM
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a reply to: TinfoilTP

I'm asking the idiot with comprehension issues, spitting hyperboles of hysteria. 7 of 5 with a brain know what he meant, so there's that.



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 11:17 AM
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a reply to: Grambler



Obama is a msulim. He is helping Isis. All of his supporters defend isis. We need to stop this extremist ideology by any means neccesary. This means that if Obama keeps gaining power, it will be neccesary to have a second civll war and annhilate all Obama supporters. You would just say, yay I get the rational, its dangeous to leave Isis gain power. Of course not.


Your example is horrible. First, you take a huge leap in logic that Truebrit did not.



I am not misleading anything. People can go back and read the past two pages themselves.


I surely hope they do. They need to read the entire context of what was said and not rely on your drama-filled nonsense. Here is his post that I think explains his position well:



This is not a black and white issue. Violence is not pleasant, but it is not inherently wrong in every way and at all times. Its wrong if you engage in it to silence dissent against White Supremacism, but not if you engage in it to destroy fascism. To destroy the supremacist, the Nazi and the fascist, is not only the right thing to do, regardless of how its done, but it is the duty of every person who owes their freedom to previous efforts in history to root out that disease from the human race once and for all.


This is why I asked you if you knew was Just War Theory was. His opinion would fall in to that line of thinking, from my perspective. There does come a time when one has to take action against threats against them, their family, country, etc.

But you didn't even know what it was, so I would not expect you to understand that.



He said Trump supporters are fascist defenders, that we should fight them with violence, and if they gain more power we should annihilate them all.


Many of us have been saying since before Trump was even elected that he had fascist rhetoric and appealed to disgusting sorts of people. So ya, if you support Trump you are defending fascism.

That is nothing new.

I can also understand what he is saying by fighting back against the fascists should it become too powerful.

Look at it this way, if the Nazis were in this country now and they had control of government, wouldn't you be all for fighting against their ideology, or would you be one of those people, like in Germany, that sat back and supported fascism because "it's mah country"?



I find that very disturbing.


No you don't. You love this sort of stuff. It allows you to maintain your drama-filled rhetoric and continue to bash the Left as much as you can. You did it with Charlotesville. You did it with Boston and you're doing it with what Truebrit said.

An opportunist at every turn.



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 11:18 AM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: TinfoilTP

Punches, or defeating fascism otherwise - via art and science for example, equals extermination?

Damnd! My Krautish forefathers should have skipped that whole Cyclone B part if punches are WMDs already!

Pathetic.


Here is what was said. First supporting Trump makes you a defender of white supremacy.

If they gain more power.


As the threat grows, the limitations placed on resistance to it will decrease in severity. It is, therefore, upon fascist elements to ensure they do not grow in power greatly enough, that wiping them out entirely becomes a viable and justifiable option.


I say this.

"Trump supporters are white supremacist and fascist apologist, and if some miracle enough of them surface (says Trumps popularity surges enabling him to enact more of his policies) then you feel the amount of violence against them should increase in kind?"

Reply:


If the threat warrants it, yes.

Anything or anyone which supports, harbours, assists or aids the rise of the far right and the fascist element, must be opposed by whatever means are most effective at the time, proportional to the threat, up to and including all out war in the streets.


and

Any sign that fascist, White Supremacist ideals and the ideals of their apologists, are becoming normalised in the media, or indeed in the White House, should result in civil war.

During these times, people will be expected to either punch, shoot or otherwise defeat fascism, or get out of the way.


This was more than a call to punch someone, or using arts and science.



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 11:21 AM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: intrepid
Far be it for me to get in the way of a good gang bash but is TrueBrit the topic?


The topic is extremist views stifling conversations.

We had a member call for the annihilation of all trump supporters.

I would say denouncing that and the members defending it is on topic.


No. It's an excuse to gang bash a member not of your clan. But hey, if that's your jollies who am I to argue?


I am sure that you too would condemn this extremist mindset, would you not?


Nope. Not going to play this game of make believe.



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 11:22 AM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: TinfoilTP

I'm asking the idiot with comprehension issues, spitting hyperboles of hysteria. 7 of 5 with a brain know what he meant, so there's that.


Nope, he was all for extermination which is in itself hysteria. Then there is you selectively ignoring the raging violent act called for that is the trademark of intolerance, he wanted all Trump supporters exterminated.

Now that you have come out as a radical defending his position, when he gets done gassing the red hats what's to stop anyone from gassing you if they feel threatened by your opinions? After all you have been shown to be a radical willing to oppose those in power, there is nothing a genocidal ruling elite kills faster than someone like themselves.



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 11:23 AM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: Simon_Boudreaux

Actually, it's pretty disturbing to witness that his kind of reasoning ought to be disturbing. It's a straightforward perspective and if you wouldn't be so busy being sorry for yourself, in utter ignorance of his arguments, you could have a debate and actually learn something new.

#Tee&Cowards



Being sorry for myself? Please. Not the first time I've been T&C'd, sure it won't be the last. If you see nothing wrong with someone calling for war, death, and violence against a group of people that shows different views than what they believe (REGARDLESS OF SIDES) then you are just as ignorant as Trubrit and there is no chance of having a debate with that kind of thinking. As for learning something new? I think we've all learned a lot about how people like you and Trubrit think.



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 11:24 AM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Grambler



Your example is horrible. First, you take a huge leap in logic that Truebrit did not.


His leap was all Trump supporters are defending fascists and white supremacists. Do you agree with this?





I surely hope they do. They need to read the entire context of what was said and not rely on your drama-filled nonsense. Here is his post that I think explains his position well:


I guess we both want them to see for themselves. Again, the fact that you don't find what he said to be too extreme is very scary.



This is why I asked you if you knew was Just War Theory was. His opinion would fall in to that line of thinking, from my perspective. There does come a time when one has to take action against threats against them, their family, country, etc.

But you didn't even know what it was, so I would not expect you to understand that.


Just war theory is the idea that it is better to have a war for the sake of preventing a terrible tragedy from occuring. In that case, the war is justified.

He is declaring for a war to annihilate Trump supporters.

How you can even equate this to a just was is insane.





Many of us have been saying since before Trump was even elected that he had fascist rhetoric and appealed to disgusting sorts of people. So ya, if you support Trump you are defending fascism.

That is nothing new.

I can also understand what he is saying by fighting back against the fascists should it become too powerful.

Look at it this way, if the Nazis were in this country now and they had control of government, wouldn't you be all for fighting against their ideology, or would you be one of those people, like in Germany, that sat back and supported fascism because "it's mah country"?


And this sums it up.

You don't have a problem with what he is saying because you agree all trump supporters are defending fascism.




No you don't. You love this sort of stuff. It allows you to maintain your drama-filled rhetoric and continue to bash the Left as much as you can. You did it with Charlotesville. You did it with Boston and you're doing it with what Truebrit said.

An opportunist at every turn.


You are calling anyone who supports Trump a defender of fascism. You are seeing the good points in someone suggesting killing all trump supporters, comparing it with just war theory.

I truly do find that disturbing.



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 11:26 AM
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originally posted by: [post=22591675]intrepid

No. It's an excuse to gang bash a member not of your clan. But hey, if that's your jollies who am I to argue?
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Are you and your "clan" not guilty of the same?



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 11:27 AM
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An entire generation of assholes. That really is sad.



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