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UH OH: British Spy Behind Debunked 'Trump Dossier' to Testify Under Oath

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posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 10:18 PM
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a reply to: windword

Well they are "unsourced"





posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 01:29 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

This I gotta see!!



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 02:14 PM
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a reply to: windword

So basically you don't need evidence you decided he's compromised facts not needed.



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 03:22 PM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04


The circumstantial evidence is overwhelming. Trump's compromised as hell!



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 03:28 PM
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originally posted by: windword
The circumstantial evidence is overwhelming. Trump's compromised as hell!

Damn!!!!

Circumstantial evidence? Eff me, that is the pinnacle of evidence. Crap, courts take that as indisputable gospel!

I am shocked....shocked!...that he hasn't already been escorted across the White House lawn in chains for this!

Who is responsible for this travesty of justice?



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 03:35 PM
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a reply to: peck420


You can pretend it's not there if it makes you feel better. But the evidence itself, the timeline, the emails, Trump's words and actions are damning in and of themselves, not to mention all the circumstantial evidence, all piling up on Mueller's desk!



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 03:42 PM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Vasa Croe


I don't care what you think of the person who compiled them. Do you have anything to say about the 8 pages of summarized allegations from the dossier?

No? Thought not.



Interviews through an intermediary? Hearsay.

With paid witnesses, I can build a dossier that says Sillyolme is a Trump supporter and Annee is related to David Duke.
edit on 8/22/2017 by pteridine because: Bad autocorrect.



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 03:46 PM
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a reply to: pteridine


As I've said before, the Steele/Trump dossier that was given to and then published by Buzzfeed may be padded, coded or incomplete. We don't know what is actually in the dossier that 's sitting on Mueller's desk, But, the 8 pages of summary are from the dossier that was published by Buzzfeed, and it has not been definitively debunked.



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 03:56 PM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: pteridine


As I've said before, the Steele/Trump dossier that was given to and then published by Buzzfeed may be padded, coded or incomplete. We don't know what is actually in the dossier that 's sitting on Mueller's desk, But, the 8 pages of summary are from the dossier that was published by Buzzfeed, and it has not been definitively debunked.


Paid witnesses through an intermediary/translator = hearsay. If any part is found to be tainted, the whole thing is poisoned. Is there a blue dress involved, too? Time will tell.
Whenever one of these 'revelations' pops up, I always try to figure what the other side is trying to distract us from. Has old Awan committed suicide or escaped to Pakistan, yet? He will never be permitted to testify. Debbie and Hilly's coven will be sure of that.
edit on 8/22/2017 by pteridine because: clarification



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 04:06 PM
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abcnews.go.com...




A key figure behind the so-called “dossier” featuring uncorroborated and salacious allegations about then-candidate Donald Trump’s ties to Russia will be questioned by investigators from the Senate Judiciary Committee today about the funding and sources for the document.

During last year’s heated Republican primary race, Fusion GPS, a private research firm founded by former Wall Street Journal reporter Glenn Simpson, was initially paid about a million dollars by wealthy Republicans and then later worked for Democrats, all of whom wanted to dig up dirt on Trump and plant negative news stories, according to political operatives.

Simpson, who will appear in a closed session on Capitol Hill on Tuesday, hired the former MI6 agent Christopher Steele to compile the now infamous “dossier,” which alleged that members of the Trump campaign had colluded with Russian agents to damage Hillary Clinton, Trump’s Democratic opponent.

Republicans in Congress are stepping up their efforts to uncover the funders of and sources for that controversial document and its, so far, largely unverified claims as special counsel Robert Mueller’s high-profile probe of those alleged ties heats up. Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, has made it clear that Simpson’s work has landed him in the crosshairs.

“We will also pursue details about Mr. Simpson’s role in this event and the creation and circulation of the dossier that started this whole controversy,” Grassley said in hearing in July. As a reporter, Simpson specialized in coverage of money laundering and Russian organized crime. In an appearance on a panel at a film festival in 2016, Simpson explained that he started Fusion GPS after leaving journalism because he thought his investigative skills would be valuable to a range of wealthy clients. “What I really like to do is gather documents and put things together in a way that they could be used to expose a crime or right a wrong,” Simpson said. “I call it journalism for rent.”

The 35-page dossier, which included a series of salacious allegations, was completed shortly before the election. Eventually the intelligence Steele had gathered was shared with journalists, the Clinton campaign and the FBI. When Buzzfeed obtained and published the document in January, little more than a week before of Trump’s inauguration, he was outraged. “It's all fake news. It's phony stuff. It didn't happen,” Trump said in a press conference. “And it was gotten by opponents of ours, as you know, because you reported it and so did many of the other people. It was a group of opponents that got together -- sick people -- and they put that crap together.”

Simpson isn’t the only person who could face questions about so-called dossier’s production. Lawmakers also want to talk to Steele, the former British spy who actually authored the document, and a recent U.S. court ruling in a related case could compel him to do it. Lawyers for Aleksej Gubarev, a Russian tech mogul who was initially named in the dossier, were recently granted approval by Judge Ursula Ungaro of U.S. District Court in the Southern District of Florida to seek British approval to question Steele under oath as part of their libel suit against Buzzfeed. “I have to ask myself, what is it that they’re hiding,” Valentin Gurvits, Gubarev’s attorney, told ABC News.

“To me it is a very strange situation.” According to people briefed on the developments, Steele has met with the FBI and provided agents with the names of his sources for the allegations in the dossier, but it is unclear how much information lawmakers will be able to obtain from Simpson this week. Attorneys for Fusion GPS have indicated to the committee that its client relationships are confidential.



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 06:10 PM
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Interesting.

www.pastemagazine.com...

www.nydailynews.com...

en.wikipedia.org...

www.pastemagazine.com...

www.washingtonexaminer.com...

www.independent.co.uk... m-bed-a7904956.html

www.motherjones.com...

www.businessinsider.com...

www.thestranger.com...

The Steele Dossier has never been debunked, but rather, initially, was unverified. That was about 8 months ago or so when it became public? It seems, digging around, it's looking very much like at least major parts of the Dossier, like the Donald Trump Jr. emails and meeting with the Russians, have been verified. And probably things we don't know that have been verified.

All I know that law enforcement and the intelligence community are taking the dossier pretty seriously.

Maybe we should, too.



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 06:51 PM
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originally posted by: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
All I know that law enforcement and the intelligence community are taking the dossier pretty seriously.

And they should be. The outcome of their investigation is going to be rather troublesome for the US, and potentially for the US Security & Intelligence communities, regardless of which way they find.

If the dossier is true, it shows the world that the US Security & Intelligence apparatus is rather inept. A private investigator, from a different nation no less, was capable of finding what they could not.

If the dossier is false, it shows the world that the US Government can be hamstrung by a couple of pieces of paper and some well timed sound bites.

Neither of these are ideal outcomes.



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 07:21 PM
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a reply to: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

bwaaaHaHaHa

great "sources"




posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 07:45 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Who told Hillary that all 17 Intel agencies said it was Russia?



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 08:03 PM
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a reply to: peck420

He wasn't some random PI. He was a former member of an allied security and intelligence agency, and one of the most respected.

This dossier was already being looked at and passed on to security agencies many months before the election, and was being created and investigated before Trump took the presidential nomination for the G.O.P. Until late 2015, when Trump announced his presidential bid, there would have been little reason for intelligence or law enforcement to be interested in intelligence on Trump. Until that time, he was just another billionaire celebrity who spouted off opinions, who also happened to do a lot of business with Russians, which many people do for legit reasons. At that point, no real reason for intel community and law enforcement to look deeper at him, no more than they would anyone else. At least as far as I know.

Remember, no one expected Trump to win the Republican ticket, and then the white house. But as soon as Trump announced his candidacy, his Republican rivals sent Steele to look for dirt on him. And from the sounds of it, he dug up a truckload of dirt. However, once he clinched the nomination, the Republicans lost interest, so the Democrats took over. Sometime at this point, Steele handed over his dossier, and what he had. Mc Cain saw it, and handed it off to Comey. At this point also, we know the email scandal and investigation hit, so the FBI's investigative resources got diverted into that. But even with the Dossier aside, that wasn't the sole trigger for investigating possible Trump team ties to the Russian government.

Remember the whole wiretap thing and "incidental collection"? That was before the dossier. The feds were wiretapping not Donald Trump himself, but a large number of people they knew or had solid evidence either worked for the Russian Government, or had direct ties. It was that Trump's people were contacting and having a lot of dealings with the especially questionable aspects and people in Putin's government that even put them on the radar in the first place. For how long they were watching or surveiling, we don't know for sure, because a lot of intel people are still very secretive about investigations.

If anything, I think the ineptitude comes from years of underestimating or being to lax on Russia in the whole spy/ cloak and dagger game. Putin's been playing for real since 2003.



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 08:05 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

bwaaaHaHaHa

great "sources"



From one of the biggest peddlers of fake news outlets and sources here, I will take that as a compliment.

Thank you.



posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 08:07 PM
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originally posted by: iWontGiveUP
a reply to: xuenchen

Who told Hillary that all 17 Intel agencies said it was Russia?


It was a 97% consensus report compiled from several inside reports that were never published.

In English, -- it was all made up.




posted on Aug, 22 2017 @ 08:20 PM
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More garbage from the Chinese propagandist. LOL! Somewhere, Moby is laughing at the right wingers for their wishful thinking about this topic. LOL!



posted on Aug, 23 2017 @ 07:03 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

He plead the fifth in this secret meeting
As expected...

abcnews.go.com... ts_card_hed



posted on Aug, 23 2017 @ 07:39 AM
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originally posted by: iWontGiveUP
a reply to: xuenchen

He plead the fifth in this secret meeting
As expected...

abcnews.go.com... ts_card_hed


BwaaaaHaHaHa !!





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