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A return to war, Afghanistan heats up

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posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 08:49 AM
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Go ahead and pick your source, I've provided several
www.nytimes.com...
www.cbsnews.com...
www.cnn.com...

It will be officially announced at 9 pm tonight but details have started to leak early. Trump is going to attempt to fight in Afghanistan with a troop surge, and ratchet the war up over there.

Apparently, this plan was the one backed by Mattis, and Trump no doubt needs something new in the news cycle.

So, rather than end the war and bring the troops home like he campaigned to do, yet again Trump is going to do the exact opposite.




posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 08:57 AM
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a reply to: Aazadan


So, rather than end the war and bring the troops home like he campaigned to do, yet again Trump is going to do the exact opposite.

Obamas campaign promise, too...

Pentagon has been waging war in Afghanistan for over a decade, the longest war in US history. But go ahead and blame whomever is the Current Presider.

Thats his real job title, Scapegoat.



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 08:59 AM
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Still waging the war on drugs? Or is it still terrorism? Enemies of our enemies are our friends? I can't remember the narrative for Afghanistan.



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 09:02 AM
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a reply to: intrptr

There were a couple thousand Troops there under Obama, and they remained under Trump, but for the most part they weren't doing anything. This plan is going to start sending troops over again, jumping from 2000 to 8000 for the initial surge, and then likely more after winter (fighting dies down in the fall).

Again, it's a complete reversal of what Trump has been claiming should be out Afghanistan policy for 6 years now and especially during the campaign.


originally posted by: JinMI
Still waging the war on drugs? Or is it still terrorism? Enemies of our enemies are our friends? I can't remember the narrative for Afghanistan.


Terrorism. The claim is that if we leave, a power vacuum will form and we'll wind up with another terrorist state.

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The main issue at the Camp David meeting was to decide on a plan. There was the Mattis/McMaster plan and the Bannon/Prince plan. Bannon was out, and Kelly refused to let Prince into the room to try and sell Trump on his plan. So essentially, the generals are dictating policy here. I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing as it's not too far off from a military coup if that becomes common, but the Prince plan was truly horrific, wanting to recall all the troops and send in private military contractors to do the fighting for us.
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posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 09:06 AM
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They need/want those last few opium fields.. Not enough U.S. citizens have died and/or been incarcerated yet.

Check how much opium Afghanistan produced in 2001 when The Taliban™ was in-charge and see what it is now. If Your personal retirement fund or stocks showed the same growth You'd be reading this on Your own private island drinking Umbrella Drinks..

It is nothing more than a scheme; money grab.. The 'secrets' get the $$$ siphoned off the dope and a tool like DICK Cheney gets the concessions, see how much $$$ DICK Cheney has made in Iraq..

Stay Hydrated...



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 09:08 AM
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a reply to: Aazadan


There were a couple thousand Troops there under Obama, and they remained under Trump, but for the most part they weren't doing anything.

Not doing anything? Except unjustly occupying a sovereign nation.

Call it Surges, Operation Enduring Freedom, whatever... liberating Afghans from their ribcage under euphemistic slogans is still the same old war being waged for dominion over the planet.



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 09:09 AM
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a reply to: Aazadan

I have stated several times that Trump works for the "Deep State" and no one believed me.



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 09:11 AM
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thanks Obammm...wait...



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 09:16 AM
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a reply to: Aazadan

To be expected as Isis fall's the radical's will return and flock back to the Afghan Theater, and to the plethora of other jihadist hotpots around the world, it is unfortunate but unless the infection is stopped completely the virus will travel to other part's of the body of humanity.



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 09:16 AM
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a reply to: Aazadan

Has history not taught multiple lessons to attackers in that part of the world?
No one has conquered country...
and no one ever will.



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 09:17 AM
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Get troops out, people complain. Leave troop there, people complain.



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 09:27 AM
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a reply to: JimNasium


Check how much opium Afghanistan produced in 2001 when The Taliban™ was in-charge and see what it is now. If Your personal retirement fund or stocks showed the same growth You'd be reading this on Your own private island drinking Umbrella Drinks..

The Taliban paid farmers (subsidies) for harvested Opium and stocked piled it. Huge warehouses filled up with the stuff. It was part of a program to reduce the export of Opium and heroin and start switching over to other crops.

NATO invaded and now Opium production is higher than ever.



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 09:31 AM
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Next they'll be resurrecting the East India Company.




posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 09:33 AM
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Trumps Afghan war will be different. It will be glorious so we need to support his new peace initiative and encourage all our children to sign up for Trumps beautiful place in history.



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 09:33 AM
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originally posted by: roadgravel
Get troops out, people complain. Leave troop there, people complain.


There's not really a right answer, just a bunch of bad options. Maybe, just maybe, we could try the one the President ran on, that the people presumably voted for though.



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 09:35 AM
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a reply to: Aazadan

The cost of the long war will destroy this country and Bin Laden will win.



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 09:37 AM
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a reply to: roadgravel

"A more perfect Union" means different things to different people. It's only more prefect because someone is unhappy.



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 09:37 AM
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a reply to: Aazadan

I don't trust politicians, but I do trust General Mattis.



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 09:37 AM
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Well as Bannon said:


"The Trump presidency that we fought for, and won, is over," Bannon said in an interview with The Weekly Standard. "We still have a huge movement, and we will make something of this Trump presidency. But that presidency is over. It'll be something else."


Source

So, why not ramp up an already long and pointless war? Some more MOAB's maybe? Can't fail with those, right?

And yes, yes Obama wanted to end it there too - and Iraq...it's a bit too late for that now eh, Bush? If we are going left an right here...I honestly don't care who started it.

If this is his new means of portraying himself as a "leader" - it's just...sad and terrifying.



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 09:41 AM
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NATO invaded and now Opium production is higher than ever.


Just about everyone who has produced opium knows that it grows much better in soil that has been stained by Locals' blood mixed in w/gun powder, produces an excellent loam...

Throw in Billion$$$ raked off the top by politicians w/their hands out (both of them) and it is a recipe for $u¢¢e$$




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