I don't Recall the Left Denouncing Hate Crimes from Leftwing Groups...

originally posted by: The GUT

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Except that the majority of people who are pro-life do not call for the deaths of doctors and do not support the actions of the crazies that do murder anyone... BTW, derailing the topic much?...

Nor do the millions of people who have participated in BLM-related activities. It's "derailing" when people disagree with you?

They mostly all seem to join the chant for cop's to be murdered. Your willful ignorance and facility for spin is astounding, Ante.

"Seem"? LOL. Perhaps it's the media who made it "seem" that they are "mostly" joining the chant.
Are you aware that many BLM members denounced the violence and murders over and over, right?

a reply to: starwarsisreal

Bunch of lies. Sanger, having seen as a young nurse the atrocities of poor women dying from unsafe pregnancies, and hearing about women drowning their babies because they had no resources to adequately care for them, and watching women die from septicemia due to attempts at self abortions - felt compelled to help these women by educating them on birth control methods. She was not a fan of abortions. She helped women of all races, nationalities, and religions.

Her early views on eugenics were the same as every other scientist and intellectual in the country at that time. Once that movement started losing favor, she dropped it as well.

Her legacy was to empower women to make their own reproductive decisions and not be forced into a lifetime of celibacy or a constant state of pregnancy. Read her autobiography from 1938. She'll tell you that herself.

a reply to: Deaf Alien

The media? They cover for anarchy and encourage violence, DA.

originally posted by: JHumm
Obama has the chance of a life time to unite race.

That sounds like what the liberal media is saying about President Trump. That he blew it with Charlotteville.

originally posted by: The GUT
a reply to: Deaf Alien

The media? They cover for anarchy and encourage violence, DA.

I don't think anyone here ever denied that.

a reply to: kaylaluv

Is it your contention that Sanger wasn't a eugenicist based on faulty science then? I don't think you can intellectually support that position if so.

By your logic: Many of the Confederate Generals and slave owners would get a "pass" too.

Some of you are simply intentional liars.

BLM is not a homogenous organization. In fact, it's not an "organization" except in the most general sense. It's ridiculous to argue that every individual who holds up a sign, or joins a protest for "Black Lives Matter" is also calling for the death of law enforcement or of "White people." So many of you just make these vapid, all-inclusive statements that are ridiculous.

The intention of BLM is to oppose the wanton killing of Black Americans by law enforcement. So many of you are glad to overlook real reports of police brutality and "bad shootings" ... and yet, EVERY SINGLE TIME that a "thug" crosses the line, you want to hold EVERY SINGLE BLACK AMERICAN responsible.

Hypocrites and liars.

... not to mention, the lies about Margaret Sanger. If she was a "eugenicist" I guess you want to condemn Teddy Roosevelt as well, right? Woodrow Wilson?

Funny (not) how you cherry-pick who you're going to apply "standards" to, ain't it?

Sanger fought for the right of a woman to control her body all of her life. Birth control does not consist only of abortion. Of course, for many of you, the idea that a woman should be able to choose her own reproductive health is just as obnoxious as arguing that no one should be treated illegally based on the shade of their skin. Or their sexual orientation, gender identity, national origin, religion etc.

Bigots gonna bigot, huh?

a reply to: The GUT

Sanger's statements on eugenics mirrored what all intellectuals of the day were saying. It was not her main message, however. Her main message was empowering women to enjoy sex without the specter of an unwanted pregnancy hanging over their heads. She was a feminist above all else.

The difference between Sanger's views on eugenics and slave owners ' views on slavery is that her views changed once the science was debunked. How many slave owners in the South decided owning slaves was not a good idea once abolitionists brought it to their attention?

a reply to: kaylaluv

Not to mention, Sanger was also applying "eugenics" theories not merely to racial groups but to socio-economic ones. People who were too poor to take care of themselves shouldn't be bringing babies into the world they can't take care of.

Gosh what a radical idea. Prevent pregnancy rather than terminate it.

Yet, there are some here who want to equivocate a woman using birth control methods to Nazis putting Jews in ovens.

.... and they do it with a straight face.

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Supporting BLM is not the same thing as supporting violence and murder.
That is like saying that supporting pro-life group is the same thing as supporting volence and murder when some guys shot up Planned Parenthood clinics.

Supporting them supports their violent causes. It's either with them, or against them.

Spread the hatred! Rev it up every chance you get. Good job, OP.

originally posted by: angeldoll
Spread the hatred! Rev it up every chance you get. Good job, OP.

Pointing out the violence isn't "spreading" it. These things can be observed firsthand.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Yes, Sanger helped spread the word of contraception to women of all races and backgrounds. She hated the idea of abortion. Before she opened her first clinic, she passed out flyers that said "if you don't want to have any more children - don't kill, don't take a life, but prevent."

originally posted by: Kromlech

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Supporting BLM is not the same thing as supporting violence and murder.
That is like saying that supporting pro-life group is the same thing as supporting volence and murder when some guys shot up Planned Parenthood clinics.

Supporting them supports their violent causes. It's either with them, or against them.

Do you support pro-life group?

originally posted by: Kromlech

originally posted by: angeldoll
Spread the hatred! Rev it up every chance you get. Good job, OP.

Pointing out the violence isn't "spreading" it. These things can be observed firsthand.

Nobody is denying the violent aspects of different groups.

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originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Kromlech

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Supporting BLM is not the same thing as supporting violence and murder.
That is like saying that supporting pro-life group is the same thing as supporting volence and murder when some guys shot up Planned Parenthood clinics.

Supporting them supports their violent causes. It's either with them, or against them.

Do you support pro-life group?

BLM is more of a threat than "pro-lifers." A drop in the bucket compared to DAILY BLM violence.

originally posted by: Kromlech

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Kromlech

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Supporting BLM is not the same thing as supporting violence and murder.
That is like saying that supporting pro-life group is the same thing as supporting volence and murder when some guys shot up Planned Parenthood clinics.

Supporting them supports their violent causes. It's either with them, or against them.

Do you support pro-life group?

BLM is more of a threat than "pro-lifers." A drop in the bucket compared to DAILY BLM violence.

Sure it has nothing to do with the gang and drug dealing violence? Surely you realize that many BLM members denounced the violence over and over again, right?
Let me ask you a question I have asked the OP. Are you against the police brutality against the black people?

originally posted by: Kromlech

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Kromlech

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Supporting BLM is not the same thing as supporting violence and murder.
That is like saying that supporting pro-life group is the same thing as supporting volence and murder when some guys shot up Planned Parenthood clinics.

Supporting them supports their violent causes. It's either with them, or against them.

Do you support pro-life group?

BLM is more of a threat than "pro-lifers." A drop in the bucket compared to DAILY BLM violence.

www.snopes.com...

This was true.