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Are solar eclipses proof of God?

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posted on Sep, 19 2017 @ 06:15 AM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

You know that's a story adapted from before Christianity was a thing, right?

Just like most of the stories in the bibles, they're adaptations from previous stories and religions.




posted on Sep, 19 2017 @ 02:40 PM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

Why couldn't the storied be adapted from earlier accounts that agree with the Preserved word of God.

You been told so long what and how to think you don't have any free ability to think outside the educational bubble you are in and you don't want too get out of it.

I went from the bubble to where I am today.



posted on Sep, 19 2017 @ 02:43 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

So we're back to the "everything's wrong. I'm right" nonesense?

That's all your (failed) arguments have been. It's a truly pathetic attempt to prove anything while using it.
edit on 1992017 by TerryDon79 because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 19 2017 @ 03:34 PM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

Looks that way. Because he's been shown to be faulty with mathematics. The Mathematics is wrong. Not the user of it


So Chester old bean, please prove that the Preserved word of God is indeed preserved and from God, not from Men. Then couple that with the topic of discussion, how eclipses prove God.



posted on Sep, 19 2017 @ 03:37 PM
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a reply to: Noinden

The thing is, if he was a decent human being, he would have just said "OK. I've been proven wrong. Sorry. End of thread".

Instead, we get the "everything's wrong apart from me!" nonsense, with not even an iota of evidence.



posted on Sep, 19 2017 @ 03:42 PM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

That is not an uncommon human fallacy though. Myopic stubborn refusal to admit error. In this case he is convinced that there is the "Preserved Word of God" which he paid to get access too (how would Jesus feel about that?).

To myself and others that sounds like a scam. To him, its perfectly normal.

He like the author of the "article" (it barely counts) in the OP, see God in simple mathematics. More power to them. It remains that that is gnosis, not eídein as is implied.



posted on Sep, 19 2017 @ 03:49 PM
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a reply to: Noinden

I admit to be stubborn sometimes. It is a very human thing. But I would rather admit being wrong AND learn something new, than being too stubborn to admit it and remain ignorant.

I've not got a problem with people having beliefs about god/gods. Me and you talk and you've got your beliefs about gods. The thing that irks me are people like Chester and others on here and in the real world that can't accept they're nothing more than a belief without evidence, when the "evidence" they're presenting goes against the observable, testable and measurable.

It would be like me going to the doctors, getting told I've got a rash and me disagreeing and saying he's wrong, it's actually cheese and I'm going to eat it.



posted on Sep, 19 2017 @ 08:03 PM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

The evidence is in me. You don't have it in you because you are not of his, if you had the son you have the father. But because you have not him nor him word in you you cannot know. But that does not have to be all one has to do is believe that Jesus Death on the Cross was your substitution of death for your sins. You have until you reach the DEADline, and go to your long home. John, through inspiration of God, put it this way in quoting Jesus Christ

John 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.
38 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.
39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
41 I receive not honour from men.
42 But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you.



posted on Sep, 19 2017 @ 08:06 PM
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originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: TerryDon79

Looks that way. Because he's been shown to be faulty with mathematics. The Mathematics is wrong. Not the user of it


So Chester old bean, please prove that the Preserved word of God is indeed preserved and from God, not from Men. Then couple that with the topic of discussion, how eclipses prove God.


Sorry I cannot prove anything to you it is a journey you must take. It will take you at least three years and you have to do it with a pure heart in wanting to know the TRUTH!

Are you willing to do this?

If so you shall know the TRUTH and it shall set you free.



posted on Sep, 19 2017 @ 08:16 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

So no evidence then, just like this thread.

Thanks for proving my point.



posted on Sep, 19 2017 @ 08:27 PM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

I again challenge you.

I cannot prove anything to you it is a journey you must take. It will take you at least three years and you have to do it with a pure heart in wanting to know the TRUTH! Not wanting to prove the Bible is wrong or error filled or written by men. Put that all aside and come to it with a different heart and then come back to this thread and tell me it is not true.

Are you willing to do this?

If so you shall know the TRUTH and it shall set you free.



posted on Sep, 19 2017 @ 08:32 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

So, again, you lied.

I'm not really surprised. Many people that call themselves "Christian" do it. You just seem to do it very often.



posted on Sep, 19 2017 @ 08:50 PM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

so your not willing to see for yourself.

You just put your fingers in your ears and say "La, la, la, la. . . ."

You were taught what you believe by man I have been taught what I believe by God who is in me.

If you want to prove it quickly, then take a gun or a rope or some pills and kill yourself. But then you will have passed the deadline.



posted on Sep, 19 2017 @ 08:53 PM
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If you want to prove it quickly, then take a gun or a rope or some pills and kill yourself.


So you want me to kill myself?

Such a loving Christian you are. Just like your hate filled, jealous and vindictive god. Christianity is definitely the right religion for you.



posted on Sep, 19 2017 @ 11:15 PM
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That is a logical fallacy. Mathematics is something which gives a real answer.

1 + 1 = 2 always.

Thus if you are going to rely on mathematics as a proof.... it needs to be something which can give an answer, not hand waving.

Now if you want to move into the realm of imaginary numbers, like -1 (negative one), go for it, you can have some wriggle room, but not much.



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 12:59 PM
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a reply to: Noinden

Try explaining to a 3 dimensional being what it is like to be fourth dimensional.

Can it truly be done with our current mathematical system?



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 01:05 PM
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No, not at all, I just mentioned it if you wanted to know right away, and as noted it would be passed the deadline and you couldn't change your heart after that.

I would encourage you to try the three year plan. Of course you would have to give up ATS for a time so your could focus you heart and mind on letting the Holy Ghost/God(for they are one) teach you.

I guarantee you have never try this approach before. Stop looking at my faults and the faults of others and take the journey. You wont be any worse off than you are now.

Are you capable of reading and studying the AV Bible with a heart truly looking for truth? Or is that something beyond your capacity as a human being?



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 01:20 PM
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So when you told me to kill myself, you weren't telling me to kill myself?

I can only be a real Christian by doing the things the way you say to?
Said every televangelist ever.

You're all over the place again. You've been proven wrong and you say the maths is wrong. You then want me to kill myself. You then think some "3 year plan" is the way to go.



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 01:45 PM
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It was actually a suggestion if you wanted to prove it quickly, but in so doing it would be to late for you to change your condition of the after life once your were dead. A Biblical truth.

No I don't want you to go that route, I would rather you be a true man who really wants true proof and the only one who can give you that truth is you via God's preserved word. I have laid down a road you can travel. You would have to lay down your life, but not in suicide, and take a sabbatical of sorts. But only with a pure heart wanting God to prove to you his truth, which in the end would change you forever. Faith is an amazing journey it is the only way to get to the truth.

But you don't seem to be interested in it, so you are where you are, and you were never anything other than what you are today. No matter what you keep telling yourself.

I don't even think you even know what a Christian is in truth. You may have some sort of head knowledge that a Christian "is a little Christ", or whatever else you have deemed it to be.



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 01:52 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

That's nice.

I've noticed a pattern with your threads. When you're shown you're wrong, you change your op. When you're later proven wrong again, you use the "I'm right. Everyone else is wrong" fallacy. When that doesn't work, you try "converting" people to your (supposed(") version of Christianity.

In this thread alone you've....
Tried proving eclipses are proof of god and failed
Made up numbers and failed.
Said maths is wrong and failed.
Tried to blame the person and failed.
Tried to blame science and failed.

This thread is just one massive fail.



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