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Glenn Beck Invites Anti-Statue Activists to Tear This One Down

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posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 06:51 AM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

I don't know how to make it simpler either, but I'll try:

Unwanted pregnancies = bad

Abortions = bad

Less unwanted pregnancies = good

Less abortions = good

Planned Parenthood in black communities = less unwanted pregnancies and less abortions.

Planned Parenthood = good

Unless you are in favor of more unwanted pregnancies and more abortions, you have to agree with this.




posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 06:58 AM
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a reply to: kaylaluv


Yes of course in all of these examples I agree that is a good thing in any community anywhere in the world but that is not what we are talking about , that's why I said to you that you are missing the point.



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 07:21 AM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

I know what the point is. It is inaccurate.

Planned Parenthood located in black communities does in fact, make their lives better. It helps them to plan their families, so that they are not having children they can't adequately care for.

Planned Parenthood also helps those in white communities and Hispanic communities, etc. No one is forced to go to a Planned Parenthood clinic, but they are available if one needs a place to get low-cost/free reproductive healthcare.

Placing Planned Parenthood clinics in black communities is NOT premeditated genocide, as the poster you so admired claims. It is a godsend.

Black Lives DO Matter. Their quality of life matters. Planned Parenthood helps to provide better quality of life.



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 07:44 AM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

Your description of her is quite misleading. Maybe try researching her a bit
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posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 07:48 AM
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a reply to: Abysha

Oh no, it's a program born out of failed science.

But I suppose that makes it all better.


Oh and let's not forget - a sacred cow of the left and therefore, something you agree with.

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posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 07:50 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker



If true, she was a maverick for abortion (which I'm not against or for).


It is not true. It's absolutely false. Margret Sanger was never a proponent for abortion. She was a proponent for birth control.

More lies and gross fabrications from the Christian right. But, I wouldn't expect anything else from these kinds of people.



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 08:08 AM
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a reply to: windword




It is not true. It's absolutely false. Margret Sanger was never a proponent for abortion. She was a proponent for birth control. More lies and gross fabrications from the Christian right. But, I wouldn't expect anything else from these kinds of people.


Nah, she just favored selective sterilization. Here are her views on the subject:



“Birth Control is not merely an individual problem; it is not merely a national question, it concerns the whole wide world, the ultimate destiny of the human race. In his last book, Mr. [H.G.] Wells speaks of the meaningless, aimless lives which cram this world of ours, hordes of people who are born, who live, yet who have done absolutely nothing to advance the race one iota. Their lives are hopeless repetitions. All that they have said has been said before; all that they have done has been done better before. Such human weeds clog up the path, drain up the energies and the resources of this little earth. We must clear the way for a better world; we must cultivate our garden.”


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posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 08:22 AM
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a reply to: AntiDoppleganger


Do you have a link for that "quote". I'd like to double check it, because there are a lot of blatant misquotes, things she never said, or things edited to say something she didn't say out there on the internet, so I'd like to double check that quote.


Margaret Sanger was a proponent for all women. She wanted all woman to have access to education and birth control at a time when such conversation was "delicate", to say the least. She was a white woman who wanted to reach out to the colored community, but realized that that outreach needed to be done through black preachers and doctors, lest the colored community perceive that the birth control movement was a effort to exterminate their offspring, due to a lack of trust between the two communities.

Eugenics was the scientific fad at the time, and Sanger parlayed the medical and science community's enthusiasm into a working argument to allow for birth control among their targeted communities. But make no mistake, Sanger wanted all women to have access to birth control and family planning. She never advocated abortion. Never!


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posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 08:38 AM
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This vid puts it into proper perspective



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 08:40 AM
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a reply to: windword

The quote is alleged to come from a contributing essay of her's in the book Birth Control: Facts and Responsibilities.

In regards to her use of the term "race", she is also alleged to have written



"I accepted an invitation to talk to the women's branch of the Ku Klux Klan...I saw through the door dim figures parading with banners and illuminated crosses...I was escorted to the platform, was introduced, and began to speak...In the end, through simple illustrations I believed I had accomplished my purpose. A dozen invitations to speak to similar groups were proffered."


(Margaret Sanger: An Autobiography, P.366)

Looks like someone already posted that quote. You'll have to forgive me if the quotes posted are too minimal and distort context. I'm not an expert on her intents.



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 08:43 AM
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a reply to: AntiDoppleganger


Link? Context is important.



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 08:46 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

Only if your using the slavery argument, I am using treason...

Slavery is way more shady as slavery was in the north till after the war too...

"Slavery monuments "is a moral argument that should be had in the community without legal ramifications ..

"Treason statues" in the capital is a legal issue that has a very specific legal definition and the confederacy committed treason.


"The left " isn't doing anything , because the left isn't real..

Neither is the right.

All those people do not feel the same way nor carry the same policy positions..

You can say X left wing journalist or politician is advocating X,Y or Z.

But "the left " is what they say when they want to pin one idiots opinion on a whole group of people..

Which is not only done by the right..



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 08:47 AM
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a reply to: the2ofusr1


This documentary does an even better job.



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 08:48 AM
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a reply to: rockintitz

The smithsonian is a private institution..

Not a capital building..

You can apply "recieves tax dollars" to EVERYTHING in the country..
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posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 08:51 AM
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a reply to: the2ofusr1


I don't know how you find these gems, but they certainly scream logic in a world full of lies and utter emotional BS.



The tit for tat war we are witnessing is an emotionally based war that will lead to C.O.G. which won't bode well for ANY of us!



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 08:59 AM
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originally posted by: avgguy
a reply to: kaylaluv

Your description of her is quite misleading. Maybe try researching her a bit


I have researched her quite a bit - just not from Christian right-wing blogs.



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 09:05 AM
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a reply to: Abysha
Any point against these dirty antifa bastards at this point is worth counting. They are nothing but enemies.



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 09:21 AM
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originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: the2ofusr1


I don't know how you find these gems, but they certainly scream logic in a world full of lies and utter emotional BS.



The tit for tat war we are witnessing is an emotionally based war that will lead to C.O.G. which won't bode well for ANY of us!



It's just too bad that people can't trust others to make up their own minds because they might choose "wrongly."



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 09:29 AM
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originally posted by: Abysha
a reply to: infolurker

The biggest surges in putting up pro-confederacy statues came during the Jim Crow era and the civil rights era.

They were protest statues to begin with. They were made to be removed by a more enlightened culture.

Planned Parenthood is what it is. It's not a flimsy statue of a failed rebellion.


You mean it wasn't the 100 year mark of the Civil war? Did you write the history books?



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 09:31 AM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: CriticalStinker

Only if your using the slavery argument, I am using treason...

Slavery is way more shady as slavery was in the north till after the war too...

"Slavery monuments "is a moral argument that should be had in the community without legal ramifications ..

"Treason statues" in the capital is a legal issue that has a very specific legal definition and the confederacy committed treason.


"The left " isn't doing anything , because the left isn't real..

Neither is the right.

All those people do not feel the same way nor carry the same policy positions..

You can say X left wing journalist or politician is advocating X,Y or Z.

But "the left " is what they say when they want to pin one idiots opinion on a whole group of people..

Which is not only done by the right..


www.presidency.ucsb.edu...

History, best read before it's erased.



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