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Glenn Beck Invites Anti-Statue Activists to Tear This One Down

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posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 02:02 AM
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a reply to: infolurker

I thought it was about comparing removing the statues of traitors to America from US government property and a statue of a woman who didn't commit treason in private property...


Might should change the headline.




posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 02:11 AM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: CriticalStinker

The argument against the confederates is it is on public (gov) property and the confederacy reveled which is treason.

She didn't commit treason.. she is on private property..

Apple meet my friend orange.


Again, I don't have a dog in this fight. Look at my threads, look at my comments, I'm very independent.

I may have my leans here and there, but I'm never swayed by "loyalty" to an idealism and always comfortable rethinking them.

I said this needs to be a democratic decision and stand by that. If people decide in their own communities what to do with these statues, it's their decision.

As for your argument on one being government and one being private....

That's like white washing blackwater who survives almost exclusively from government funding.

And that and the original argument are not apples and oranges. Tax dollars used to keep private companies alive is both against the right and left ideologies.

The whole point is both sides are hypocrites on this and everything else as always.

Logical fallacies to be met by a call out of the opposing side until the opposition has an opportunity to use the same argument which they most always do.

Case in point, most people in this thread are for the idea of removing the OP statue even though they scream the hardest at preserving history no matter what.

And the left is defending the POSSIBILITY (I haven't seen absolute proof yet) that one of the architects of one of the countries biggest sexual health services to the impoverished was a eugenist (essentially nazi).

See the irony on both sides?
edit on 20-8-2017 by CriticalStinker because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 02:16 AM
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originally posted by: Abysha
a reply to: infolurker

I admit, I'm being a bit petty.

Just getting tired of all this.

Carry on, Glenn's got a point. Not a good one but I get his logic.



Ohh? When you consider the Democrat Party and it's defense of Planned Parenthood, how can Black Lives Matter to them?

Like all good propaganda, tell a lie big and bold that is the opposite of the real policy, Black Lives Matter is the opposite of what the Democrat Party is practicing in the field.

Locating them Planned Parenthood facilities near minorities is premeditated genocide.

Black Lives do not matter to the guardians of Planned Parenthood, the same guardians who defend the catchy phrase #BlackLivesMatter, which just so happens to cover for activities that prove #BlackLivesDoNotMatter at all to Democrats.

Division politics, government dependency, poor education, lack of jobs, substance dependency, and yes disproportionate incarceration. All tools to keep a demographic from moving forward to keep them stuck in the same place generation after generation, voting as they always can be counted on to do. There are now decades as a body of evidence to judge from, which is why a propaganda effort like BLM materializes to maintain the status quo.

Trump peeled off more than his share of the Black Vote last election, exposing their weakening grip as slavemasters of the black vote. They will attempt to tighten their grip, even punish their slave voters by filling them full of anxieties.

What does Trump promise? Jobs in manufacturing, education, reducing substance abuse of opiates, which combined will reduce government dependency and increase the quality of life all specifically targeted at inner cities. This puts the fear of God into Democrats because if the inner city black populations break out of bondage into the middle class, they will figure out as a whole group what has been done to them by Democrats. For now they are confused and scared enough to fall for Fake reactionary programs like BLM which promises them nothing tangible to improve their quality of life, just an outlet to vent their frustrations through.



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 03:18 AM
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a reply to: infolurker

They (PTB) don't want to rewrite that History, they are (still) writing it.


edit on 20-8-2017 by intrptr because: change



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 03:39 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

My thoughts as well.

There should just be a vote. Have each city where this is an issue vote for what statues are allowed.



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 04:23 AM
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originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: CriticalStinker

My thoughts as well.

There should just be a vote. Have each city where this is an issue vote for what statues are allowed.


That's democracy if we're going to act like the leader in.

My personal belief, vote to move it off public land and into a museum or cemetery.... But that being said, if a community decides to destroy it, so be it.

Statues are not the only symbol of history. But if it tears the very fabric of our society, than vote.

After all, isn't that who we are? I'm not afraid to say we're all immigrants occupying the same plot. But that's what we all signed up for. And American democracy isn't about someone having a heavy vote, it's about all voices being heard equally.

Someone please tell the right and the left that their politicians have the same funding.



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 04:31 AM
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Margaret Sanger was not a member of the KKK.

Anyone who was considered an intellectual was in favor of the eugenics idea during that time. Think of anyone you most admire from that era, and I can pretty much guarantee you they were on board the eugenics train. It was an extremely popular idea at the time.

Sanger's main goal was to provide options to poor women who found themselves pregnant again and again and again. She didn't care if these women were black, white, Asian, whatever. She was inspired to do this after watching her own mother die an early death after having a litter of kids.

While abortion was included in those options, her main offering was in fact, birth control methods. She was brave enough to take on the Catholic church, which was pretty powerful back then.

You guys like to talk about what a great man Robert E. Lee was.... Margaret Sanger was a saint to poor women everywhere.



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 05:27 AM
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She must have wrote some books?
BURN HER BOOKS!
I tell you what BURN ALL THE BOOKS YOU DON'T LIKE!
Now where has that happened before.
IF THE CAP FITS.



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 05:38 AM
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a reply to: TinfoilTP


Well # eh, that was well put.


You are far smarter than your crass comments make you appear to be .



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 06:01 AM
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originally posted by: Abysha
a reply to: infolurker

The biggest surges in putting up pro-confederacy statues came during the Jim Crow era and the civil rights era.

They were protest statues to begin with. They were made to be removed by a more enlightened culture.

Planned Parenthood is what it is. It's not a flimsy statue of a failed rebellion.

So , Civil War statues are somehow anti - abortion ?
Careful , you are becoming more inane with every post. And off-topic



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 06:03 AM
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a reply to: kaylaluv



Anyone who was considered an intellectual was in favor of the eugenics

No ,not unless a person was in Nazi Germany...



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 06:14 AM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Not so smart. Unwanted pregnancies and abortion rates are continuing to drop in the black community, thanks to organizations like Planned Parenthood. I thought less unwanted pregnancies and less abortions were good things?

The black community just can't win with you guys. If they have a bunch of kids they can't afford, you call them lazy welfare queens. If they try to be responsible by not having a bunch of kids they can't afford, they are participating in genocide. Sheesh.



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 06:17 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox




She did not commit treason , nor is she on government property.. 



(Funded by taxpayer dollars)

You ok with racist PP?



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 06:19 AM
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originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: kaylaluv



Anyone who was considered an intellectual was in favor of the eugenics

No ,not unless a person was in Nazi Germany...


Wrong. The American eugenics movement was big in the late 1800s/early 1900s - way before Nazi Germany. Look it up.



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 06:22 AM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

Hmmmm killing babies or taking my money what a choice



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 06:29 AM
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a reply to: rockintitz

Or, better use of birth control to reduce abortions, how about that choice? Cuz that's exactly what's happening.



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 06:34 AM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

How about not equating abortion with contraceptives? Because that is happening too.

And it's statistically higher in the black community.

Margaret sanger's plan is working as intended.



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 06:36 AM
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a reply to: kaylaluv


You are really entirely missing the point, I'm not really sure quite how to make it any simpler than it has been presented.



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 06:43 AM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: kaylaluv


You are really entirely missing the point, I'm not really sure quite how to make it any simpler than it has been presented.



Some people refuse.. you need to move on dude.



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 06:46 AM
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originally posted by: rockintitz
a reply to: kaylaluv


Margaret sanger's plan is working as intended.


Yes, it is. Unwanted pregnancies and abortions are going down. That's a good thing, not a bad thing.



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