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LIVE COVERAGE: Boston Free Speech Rally & Protests

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posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 07:03 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

Here, do you want my Leftist take?

There was a bit of a bait and switch for the rally lineup. The rally itself didn't appear to have much more than about 50 people in the overhead pictures I saw. I think that without Charlottesville last week, the protesters would have probably been similarly small in number.

From what I saw of the protests, it was mostly a disorganized mess. Lots of mindless blather. Several of the speakers were more or less incoherent. On the other hand, I saw a diverse group of regular folks from all walks of life trying to be part of something. It's about what I would expect for this sort of thing but really, it appeared there was a serious lack of leadership.

Side note: I'm going to start paying more attention to the protests in my area. If they leadership is as bad as that, I'm probably going to start getting involved. I haven't been to a protest since my early 20s (so yeah, nearly 20 years) but it frustrates me to see directionless people listening to halfwits.

I didn't see anyone from any neo-Nazi/white nationalists groups. Nobody geared up for hand-to-hand on any side. I didn't see them myself but there were apparently some people instigating cops who got arrested? Sounds about right given the level of angst and the number of people. If somebody was hit with a water/a water bottle, that's obviously not good but on the plus side, it sounds like there were no serious fights and no injuries.

Apparently things were heating up a bit and the Chief of Police or somebody came out, talked to the protesters and diffused the situation? Sounds good. Hats off to that guy if that's case.

All-in-all, I think the level of hostility in this thread was probably higher than in Boston and we all know one another, at least as much as people who post frequently on a forum do. That kind of sucks.

My apologies if I came off as an asshole.

I know everyone is on edge and feeling defensive and we all feel like we know "the truth" and most of us are all too willing to screech it at one another.

edit on 2017-8-19 by theantediluvian because: (no reason given)




posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 07:04 PM
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originally posted by: pavil
Over a thousand replies on this thread in half a day....... congratulations to everyone here who made this happen without a drop a blood spilled. Plus we got a shout out on the live feed.


Lmao. We should make a thing of getting shout outs.



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 07:08 PM
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Can we start flash mobbing anyone associated with pizza gate yet? Their speech is even more vile than Nazis.

Or maybe the double standard is okay if the media tells us so.



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 07:09 PM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Grambler

Here, do you want my Leftist take?

There was a bit of a bait and switch for the rally lineup. The rally itself didn't appear to have much more than about 50 people in the overhead pictures I saw. I think that without Charlottesville last week, the protesters would have probably been similarly small in number.

From what I saw of the protests, it was mostly a disorganized mess. Lots of mindless blather. Several of the speakers were more or less incoherent. On the other hand, I saw a diverse group of regular folks from all walks of life trying to be part of something. It's about what I would expect for this sort of thing but really, it appeared there was a serious lack of leadership.

Side note: I'm going to start paying more attention to the protests in my area. If they leadership is as bad as that, I'm probably going to start getting involved. I haven't been to a protest since my early 20s (so yeah, nearly 20 years) but it frustrates me to see directionless people listening to halfwits.

I didn't see anyone from any neo-Nazi/white nationalists groups. Nobody geared up for hand-to-hand on any side. I didn't see them myself but there were apparently some people instigating cops who got arrested? Sounds about right given the level of angst and the number of people. If somebody was hit with a water/a water bottle, that's obviously not good but on the plus side, it sounds like there were no serious fights and no injuries.

Apparently things were heating up a bit and the Chief of Police or somebody came out, talked to the protesters and diffused the situation? Sounds good. Hats off to that guy if that's case.

All-in-all, I think the level of hostility in this thread was probably higher than in Boston and we all know one another, at least as much as people who post frequently on a forum do. That kind of sucks.

My apologies if I came off as an asshole.

I know everyone is on edge and feeling defensive and we all feel like we know "the truth" and most of us are all too willing to screech it at one another.


Well said, Kudos and Huzzahs.

There were a few injuries, but, nothing life threatening or major, thank goodness. Most of our debate here in this thread was rather civil all things considered. Especially over the length of it all.

Debate and discussion is good. But it does require 2 sides to truly be a dialogue.

Again, well said.



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 07:12 PM
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Look at all those cameras hoping......



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 07:14 PM
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a reply to: neo96




while leaving ISIS's hate speech and videos up.


Google, Facebook, Alphabet agency anyone?

Why do you think they want people to be joining Daesh online, why oh why do you think they want that?

And why wouldn't they want to see Nazi propaganda shared on Facebook now, as many companies shut down this kinda stuff in a remarkable chorus of sorts? Would that just "look bad", PR clusterfck maybe, or is there more to this story? You see the Human Domain in this constellation already or am I just being paranoid again?

Excellent questions. Any ideas?



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 07:14 PM
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a reply to: bknapple32

Deserves its own thread. That's a huge rabbit hole and I don't know if any of us are prepared to go there!



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 07:14 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

It probably would have been 20-50 a side if Charlottesville hadn't happened. BakedAlaska and BasedStickMan were supposed to show up and a lot more people know about those two than they did two weeks ago. Our supposed President struggled to denounce hate groups and couldn't call an act of terror and act of terror despite the tragic death of a young woman.

I don't see it as 20,000 people saying you can't speak. I see it as 20,000 people saying we reject your hate.

I guess that makes me a fascist.



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 07:15 PM
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a reply to: Kali74

Yes when they weren't allowing those billed through the crowds. You have to be straight up lying because I don't believe that you aren't aware of the very things that have been shown in this thread.

Jaden



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 07:15 PM
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This guy loves his Texans are armed and civil line



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 07:18 PM
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Does everyone here adhere to the kekistan is a joke line?



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 07:21 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: theantediluvian

It probably would have been 20-50 a side if Charlottesville hadn't happened. BakedAlaska and BasedStickMan were supposed to show up and a lot more people know about those two than they did two weeks ago. Our supposed President struggled to denounce hate groups and couldn't call an act of terror and act of terror despite the tragic death of a young woman.

I don't see it as 20,000 people saying you can't speak. I see it as 20,000 people saying we reject your hate.

I guess that makes me a fascist.


If that was all that happened, I would agree. But, it wasn't was it? The legally allowed speakers were prevented from exercising their free speech my an approaching mob of thousands. Yes, that does send a message. But is that message we reject your type of speech or we will prevent your type of speech here. I heard the latter in the live video broadcast, and I hope to get a first-person account in the coming days from friends of mine that actually attended.


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posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 07:22 PM
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One scene that had a great deal of impact for me today, was that of the African-American gentleman stepping forward to say he was a black conservative...that he supported Trump...that he didn't think Trump was a racist...and that we are ALL Americans.

He was immediately surrounded, shouted down...told to get out...and escorted out by police.
That man showed more courage and character than anyone else I watched today.

Naturally, none of the above will be shown on the news tonight.



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 07:23 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74
NVM... I guess people had to resort to the report button.


I have never and will never report you.

I also was not upset about any of your comments.

I apologize if I upset you.



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 07:28 PM
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a reply to: Masterjaden

Both happened. Some weren't allowed through which is wrong as I've said over and over, thanks for your assumptions. I consider that violent. But some of the billed people did not show up.



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 07:28 PM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Grambler

Here, do you want my Leftist take?

There was a bit of a bait and switch for the rally lineup. The rally itself didn't appear to have much more than about 50 people in the overhead pictures I saw. I think that without Charlottesville last week, the protesters would have probably been similarly small in number.

From what I saw of the protests, it was mostly a disorganized mess. Lots of mindless blather. Several of the speakers were more or less incoherent. On the other hand, I saw a diverse group of regular folks from all walks of life trying to be part of something. It's about what I would expect for this sort of thing but really, it appeared there was a serious lack of leadership.

Side note: I'm going to start paying more attention to the protests in my area. If they leadership is as bad as that, I'm probably going to start getting involved. I haven't been to a protest since my early 20s (so yeah, nearly 20 years) but it frustrates me to see directionless people listening to halfwits.

I didn't see anyone from any neo-Nazi/white nationalists groups. Nobody geared up for hand-to-hand on any side. I didn't see them myself but there were apparently some people instigating cops who got arrested? Sounds about right given the level of angst and the number of people. If somebody was hit with a water/a water bottle, that's obviously not good but on the plus side, it sounds like there were no serious fights and no injuries.

Apparently things were heating up a bit and the Chief of Police or somebody came out, talked to the protesters and diffused the situation? Sounds good. Hats off to that guy if that's case.

All-in-all, I think the level of hostility in this thread was probably higher than in Boston and we all know one another, at least as much as people who post frequently on a forum do. That kind of sucks.

My apologies if I came off as an asshole.

I know everyone is on edge and feeling defensive and we all feel like we know "the truth" and most of us are all too willing to screech it at one another.


On mobile so can't talk much.

I thought there was more intimidation and violence than you did.

But of course the discussion in here go heated.

I don't mind at all. It never bothers me, and I still respect you.



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 07:32 PM
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a reply to: Krakatoa

20,000 people didn't block them. Handfuls of morons did and they shouldn't have.



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 07:36 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

The only thing I care about is that you consistently insinuate that I am against or for things that I am not. I am still a coherent being and very clear on my stances. There's no excuse for you and the others to paint me the way you do. All respect and expectations of integrity from you (pl) is lost.



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 07:45 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: Krakatoa

20,000 people didn't block them. Handfuls of morons did and they shouldn't have.


Yes, we are in violent agreement on that!






posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 07:49 PM
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Okay, here's a thought. If the media didn't demonize white pride and exalt all other pride then the crowds sizes would've been more equal.

*It's EASY to come out against Nazi's. But if this were simply a white pride event, I suspect (after Charlottesville) the crowds imbalance would've been the same.

** That is, if the media, educational institutions and modern leftists didn't make it a thought crime to be a proud white man.

Thoughts?
edit on 19-8-2017 by Tempter because: autocorrect




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