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originally posted by: pavil
Over a thousand replies on this thread in half a day....... congratulations to everyone here who made this happen without a drop a blood spilled. Plus we got a shout out on the live feed.
originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Grambler
Here, do you want my Leftist take?
There was a bit of a bait and switch for the rally lineup. The rally itself didn't appear to have much more than about 50 people in the overhead pictures I saw. I think that without Charlottesville last week, the protesters would have probably been similarly small in number.
From what I saw of the protests, it was mostly a disorganized mess. Lots of mindless blather. Several of the speakers were more or less incoherent. On the other hand, I saw a diverse group of regular folks from all walks of life trying to be part of something. It's about what I would expect for this sort of thing but really, it appeared there was a serious lack of leadership.
Side note: I'm going to start paying more attention to the protests in my area. If they leadership is as bad as that, I'm probably going to start getting involved. I haven't been to a protest since my early 20s (so yeah, nearly 20 years) but it frustrates me to see directionless people listening to halfwits.
I didn't see anyone from any neo-Nazi/white nationalists groups. Nobody geared up for hand-to-hand on any side. I didn't see them myself but there were apparently some people instigating cops who got arrested? Sounds about right given the level of angst and the number of people. If somebody was hit with a water/a water bottle, that's obviously not good but on the plus side, it sounds like there were no serious fights and no injuries.
Apparently things were heating up a bit and the Chief of Police or somebody came out, talked to the protesters and diffused the situation? Sounds good. Hats off to that guy if that's case.
All-in-all, I think the level of hostility in this thread was probably higher than in Boston and we all know one another, at least as much as people who post frequently on a forum do. That kind of sucks.
My apologies if I came off as an asshole.
I know everyone is on edge and feeling defensive and we all feel like we know "the truth" and most of us are all too willing to screech it at one another.
while leaving ISIS's hate speech and videos up.
originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: theantediluvian
It probably would have been 20-50 a side if Charlottesville hadn't happened. BakedAlaska and BasedStickMan were supposed to show up and a lot more people know about those two than they did two weeks ago. Our supposed President struggled to denounce hate groups and couldn't call an act of terror and act of terror despite the tragic death of a young woman.
I don't see it as 20,000 people saying you can't speak. I see it as 20,000 people saying we reject your hate.
I guess that makes me a fascist.
originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Grambler
Here, do you want my Leftist take?
There was a bit of a bait and switch for the rally lineup. The rally itself didn't appear to have much more than about 50 people in the overhead pictures I saw. I think that without Charlottesville last week, the protesters would have probably been similarly small in number.
From what I saw of the protests, it was mostly a disorganized mess. Lots of mindless blather. Several of the speakers were more or less incoherent. On the other hand, I saw a diverse group of regular folks from all walks of life trying to be part of something. It's about what I would expect for this sort of thing but really, it appeared there was a serious lack of leadership.
Side note: I'm going to start paying more attention to the protests in my area. If they leadership is as bad as that, I'm probably going to start getting involved. I haven't been to a protest since my early 20s (so yeah, nearly 20 years) but it frustrates me to see directionless people listening to halfwits.
I didn't see anyone from any neo-Nazi/white nationalists groups. Nobody geared up for hand-to-hand on any side. I didn't see them myself but there were apparently some people instigating cops who got arrested? Sounds about right given the level of angst and the number of people. If somebody was hit with a water/a water bottle, that's obviously not good but on the plus side, it sounds like there were no serious fights and no injuries.
Apparently things were heating up a bit and the Chief of Police or somebody came out, talked to the protesters and diffused the situation? Sounds good. Hats off to that guy if that's case.
All-in-all, I think the level of hostility in this thread was probably higher than in Boston and we all know one another, at least as much as people who post frequently on a forum do. That kind of sucks.
My apologies if I came off as an asshole.
I know everyone is on edge and feeling defensive and we all feel like we know "the truth" and most of us are all too willing to screech it at one another.