a reply to: Grimpachi
I don't know who called him a Nazi or a white supremacist? The thing with the rally is who was booked to speak there originally. There's a lot of
context that is continuously being left out.
Kyle "Based Stickman" Chapman isn't a neo-Nazi or a white supremacist AFAIK. Gavin McInnes is also not a neo-Nazi. However, as I demonstrated earlier,
much to the consternation of some muppet who said I was "derailing the thread," Kyle Chapman and other Proud Boys (the group founded by McInnes) have
been fighting in SoCal alongside neo-Nazis and various white nationalist groups, including Identity Evropa, "DIY Division," and Hammerskins (who are
what most people think of when they think "neo-Nazi").
Chapman was invited to UTR as well but didn't attend ultimately though I read on his Twitter feed that he "had people there" who I assume were Proud
Boys (he has his own faction of violent, armed hooligans he calls the "Alt-Knights"). McInnes however, disavowed the UTR rally and threatened anyone
who found there in "their colors" was facing possible expulsion.
This is because in recent months, there's been a schism in the coalition of the Alt-Right, traditional neo-Nazis and the "Alt-Lite" groups like Proud
Boys. I can back this up with multiple lines of evidence if anyone doubts it. At any rate, the "Alt-Lite" "leaders" have decided that it's no longer
in their interests to associate with these neo-Nazis, understandably. But deleting tweets and lying on Podcasts doesn't really erase history anymore
than taking down a Confederate statue.
Another speaker, August Invictus, who was originally scheduled to speak and was billed at UTR (I don't know if he actually showed up there or not),
was disinvited by Medlar because of comments he made about how the US needs a "Second Civil War."
Which seems ironic to me because, the "free speech rally" organizer actually disinvited *that* guy and laid out some ground rules disallowing any hate
speech which by the standards of the posters in this threads make him a "fascist" who is "censoring" free speech. But I digress.
Given the cross-pollination, I don't think that it was exactly unfair for people to assume that this rally was going to be something that it may or
may not have turned out to be. (I have no idea who actually showed up, it looks like basically nobody).
Though somebody should have maybe informed the protesters that all of the speakers dropped out in the last week following Charlottesville (McInnes
claimed that the Mayor was going to let a riot break out) and that the one from UTR was actually disinvited.
The upshot here is that given who was supposed to be speaking, including an overlap with UTR, people assumed that it was going to be som