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Does this show a need for the F-22?

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posted on Feb, 8 2005 @ 09:33 PM
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How Su-30MK beats the F-15 in USAF Simulations



Su-30MKI and F-16C and F/A-18E/F

Looks like our frontline fighters are competing quite poorly. Are some of the "facts" given actually true? If so, it really shows the need for the raptor.





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posted on Feb, 8 2005 @ 09:51 PM
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yes it does , the USAF said so :

read this article

USAF: Indian Exercises Showed Need For F/A-22, Changes In Training



posted on Feb, 8 2005 @ 09:57 PM
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I also found this pretty interesting.

Interview with Mikhail Simonov

Quoted from link above:

How is that that supermaneuverability leads to the reduction of the aircraft's visibility on the radar screen?

Supermaneuverability should be looked at as a system of maneuvers for close aerial combat. Once the pilot receives a signal that his plane is being tracked by an enemy radar, the first thing he needs to do is to go vertical. While gaining altitude and losing speed the aircraft starts to disappear from the screens of radars that use the Doppler effect. 10 However, the opponent is no fool either and will counter by pitching his aircraft upward as well. By that time our plane is going vertical and its speed approaches zero. But all Doppler radars can recognize only a moving target. If the aircraft speed is zero or simply low enough to prevent the enemy radar from calculating the Doppler component, for the enemy our aircraft will disappear. He may still be able to track us visually, but he will not be able to launch a radar-guided missile (either active or semi-active), simply because the missile's seeker would not pick-up the target.

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posted on Feb, 8 2005 @ 09:57 PM
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No it does not. I still believe that a F-15 can shoot down a Su-30 given BVR capabilities, but no one will ever know,and this has been argued about many times,and simply because they are still only going to shoot down MiG-21s,unless they are going to have a war with China anytime soon.



posted on Feb, 8 2005 @ 10:00 PM
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This image gives you a clear understanding of what I quoted above.



posted on Feb, 8 2005 @ 10:03 PM
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600 meters away,that would probably happen. But,if a AAMRAAM was fired from 30 kms away (BVR),what would happen then?



posted on Feb, 8 2005 @ 10:11 PM
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If you go look on vayu-sena.tripod.com... you can see that they have a few of their facts wrong. They rate Russian air to ground weapons over US air to ground weapons. The US has almost always had better air to ground weapons. They also describe the F-16 having a less varied weapons load than the Su-30MKI. This is not true.







 
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