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Two Books From 1800s Predict Trump as The Last President??

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posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 12:22 PM
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a reply to: muzzleflash

I just started reading the book Baron Trumps Marvelous Journey and I already find it interesting that on page 7 it says "the people will tell thee, said learned Don Fum...Ah, but what people will tell me where to find the 'Portals' to the World wishing a World". Back to the John Titor theory...does this not sound like an allusion to Time Travel? A world within a world, could be the time lines. Weird.




posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 12:58 PM
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a reply to: Wolfenz


only because these 3 writers & their works exist... do I hold any positive expectation of the OP's two books on Trump


because of : 1898 Morgan Robertson published a novel called "The Wreck of the Titan, or Futility

because of : Jules Verne (as your post cited)

because of : Jonathan Swift ->


...Nevertheless, Swift's statements are quite remarkable if you will consider that these were made 150 years before astronomers confirmed the existence of these two satellites. The problem with the Martian moons is that they are extremely small, and that is why they were hidden from astronomers for so long. The telescopes in Swift's day were just too primitive to be able to spot these little Martian moons - so how did Swift know they existed?
see: rense.com...


otherwise I would scoff at the thin veil of False-Historical-evidence which seems to surround these 2 pieces in question...

too many coincidences usually mean a hoaxed piece of work, in my book at least


false book credentials can be developed ...just as in the case of flight MH370 and the supposed tailpiece section with the part number still intact, discovered at Reunion island, other than generally predicted in the time allowed



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 02:05 PM
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a reply to: muzzleflash

Outstanding muzzleflash, as always.

So do we have more proof that the future is foreseeable, prescience is not just relegated to prophecy in the Bible?

surely...

Less like prophetic and more like revelation, or "to be revealed".



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 03:21 PM
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a reply to: Jobeycool

The one about Netanyahu is wrong, but the others check out (unless I got something wrong). This is really one of the weirdest numerological coincidences I've seen, pretty spooky.

SPOILER ALERT: The Last President is about an idealistic socialist named Bryan who wins the election and promises to tax the wealthy, there's some class warfare and he starts making silver money, leading to inflation. The South is behind him, they are pissed at the wealthy North for exploiting them in the wake of the civil war and they are all portrayed as lazy bums and crooked opportunists. There's some sort of mystery man behind it all, a mastermind, it's not really clear who he is supposed to be, but someone who knows about the contemporary politics might know? In the end Bryan starts regretting what he did, as the economy is ruined and politics are dirty. He tries to fix things but it's too late, the Republic is divided into three parts; the South, the North-East and the North-West.



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 03:45 PM
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a reply to: Cutepants

Time magazine: Steve Bannon Compares Trump to William Jennings Bryan

Wiki William Jennings Bryan


William Jennings Bryan (March 19, 1860 – July 26, 1925) was an American orator and politician from Nebraska. Beginning in 1896, he emerged as a dominant force in the Democratic Party, standing three times as the party's nominee for President of the United States. He also served in the United States House of Representatives and as the United States Secretary of State under Woodrow Wilson. Because of his faith in the wisdom of the common people, he was often called "The Great Commoner".


Dates match up.
Funny that Bannon thinks Trump = Bryan


This is not the first time the President has been compared to Bryan, one of the most notable figures of American politics in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Those comparisons, however, have run the gamut from extremely flattering to disparaging. That diversity of opinion is possible because Bryan's career was acknowledged as strange even by his contemporaries.

He became editor of The Omaha World-Herald (owned by Gilbert M. Hitchcock) and went from his editorial office as a delegate to the Democratic Convention in Chicago in 1896 — the beginning of his political ascendancy. He went to speak for the farmers of the West who believed their troubles were caused by a shortage of currency. He went to the Convention demanding the free and unlimited coinage of silver, crying: "You shall not press down upon the brow of labor this crown of thorns. You shall !not crucify mankind upon a cross of gold ."T hose echoing words won him the next day the Democratic nomination for President.



edit on 8/20/2017 by muzzleflash because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 03:57 PM
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Bryan was also the prosecutor in the Scopes Trial and argued against evolution. He also spoke out against US imperialism and hoped to avoid WW1 *but it seems he later capitulated*. He advocated Prohibition, etc.

Interesting history there. I think The Last President was written about this guy by and large.
What makes this weird though, is that Bannon equates Trump with this guy.
And that's truly bizarre.



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 03:58 PM
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a reply to: neo96

Crypto Currency is limited, and eventually will run dry. They knew this from the creation of Bitcoin. The new currency will be the "chip", that the elites will require everyone to get as an injection under their skin in the right hand or forehead. We've all seen the (rice sized) chips, but that will still be too large for the public to accept. In the advent of nano, and even picometre techology, they would be able to construct the chip so small, that they could give one a local injection, justnas if getting a flu shot....and done. The internet is rife with news articles, and even mainstream news, that go back over 20 years pitching this as an idea. There is a company in Wisconsin called Digiwell, that has recently installed the rice sized chip in all of its employees as a working template (they're guinea pigs essentially) to see how "convenient it will be. Of course, if one believes in the Bible (I certainly do) this had already been predicted in Revelations 13 over 2K years ago, but because Jesus didn't come right down, get on CNN and warn people where their ears can hear, and eyes can see....many refute this as happenstance. Wifi or air can't be quantified and people believe that, but Jesus to many is a fictional story book hero, because they've never seen him. Go figure.



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 04:06 PM
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originally posted by: Bwomp83
I read an old prophecy that claimed the 45th president of American would be the last president, although it also said the last president was a female. But in all reality Trump is the 44th person to serve as president so we may have one left.

www.google.com...




That would make sense....I am probably wrong but isn't a female president known as something else rather than president when addressed?

If this is the case the it could technically be possible.



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 04:11 PM
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More about William Jennings Bryan being very similar to Trump:


In his book They Also Ran, Irving Stone criticizes Bryan as an egocentric who never admitted being wrong. Stone argues that because Bryan led a privileged life, he could not feel the suffering of the common man. He asserts that Bryan only acted as a champion of common men in order to get their votes. Stone claims that none of Bryan's ideas were original, and that he did not have the brains to be an effective president. He calls Bryan one of the nation's worst Secretaries of State. He believes that, as President, Bryan would have supported many blue laws. In Stone's opinion, Bryan had one of the least disciplined minds of the 19th century


Sound familiar?

Now, I'm not saying Trump is a racist (I haven't seen any evidence that he is) but many people think he is and swear that he is, so here's a comparison:


Bryan was never comfortable with the black community, and attacked Roosevelt in 1904 for inviting Booker T. Washington to the White House to further the social equality between the races; he supported disfranchisement of Southern blacks.[80] Form and content mix uneasily in Bryan's politics. The content of his speeches leads in a direct line to the progressive reforms adopted by 20th century Democrats. But the form his actions took was a romantic invocation of the American past, a populist insistence on the wisdom of ordinary folk, and a faith-based insistence on sincerity and character.


Now a weird twist...

Many prominent Democrats have praised Bryan and his legacy. In 1962, former President Harry Truman said Bryan "was a great one—one of the greatest." Truman also claimed: "If it wasn't for old Bill Bryan, there wouldn't be any liberalism at all in the country now. Bryan kept liberalism alive, he kept it going."


Ummm ok... hmmm, lol.


Tom L. Johnson, the progressive mayor of Cleveland, Ohio, referred to Bryan's campaign in 1896 as "the first great struggle of the masses in our country against the privileged classes." In a 1934 speech dedicating a memorial to Bryan, President Franklin D. Roosevelt said "I think that we would choose the word 'sincerity' as fitting him [Bryan] most of all...it was that sincerity that served him so well in his life-long fight against sham and privilege and wrong. It was that sincerity which made him a force for good in his own generation and kept alive many of the ancient faiths on which we are building today. We...can well agree that he fought the good fight; that he finished the course; and that he kept the faith."


So apparently this guy is the origin of the Welfare state in a lot of ways...

Bryan was the first leader of a major party to argue for permanently expanding the power of the federal government to serve the welfare of ordinary Americans from the working and middle classes....he did more than any other man—between the fall of Grover Cleveland and the election of Woodrow Wilson—to transform his party from a bulwark of laissez-faire to the citadel of liberalism we identify with Franklin D. Roosevelt and his ideological descendants.

His one great flaw was to support, with a studied lack of reflection, the abusive system of Jim Crow—a view that was shared, until the late 1930s, by nearly every white Democrat....After Bryan's death in 1925, most intellectuals and activists on the broad left rejected the amalgam that had inspired him: a strict populist morality based on a close read reading of Scripture....Liberals and radicals from the age of FDR to the present have tended to scorn that credo as naïve and bigoted, a remnant of an era of white Protestant supremacy that has, or should have, passed.


Though there are a lot of interesting parallels, there are some specific differences that we could point out. Like Bryan wanted to create welfare whereas Trump seems to lean towards ending it. Byran didn't like Gold and preferred silver, whereas Trump seems to favor Gold.

Most people view both of them with the same personality styles though. Straight-forward, blunt, willing to say controversial things, egotistical, etc.



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 04:16 PM
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a reply to: muzzleflash

Super interesting thread flash, fantastic job!

I love anything time travel and the connections here whilst potentially tenuous nevertheless do bare synchronous elements.

My thoughts are it isn't Trump who is the time traveller but Baron perhaps as he could always fill his father in, maybe even take him to the past, that is if we are linking to the Titor universe, given that both are in childhood around the same time, although Titor would be older at this stage that doesn't mean there isn't a shift in timing of events, I just went back and read the Titor wiki page and the reasons he states for the war are directly parallel with what is happening right now, just at a different time.



The most immediate of Titor's predictions was of an upcoming civil war in the United States having to do with "order and rights".[9] He described it as beginning in 2004,[10] with civil unrest surrounding the presidential election of that year. This civil conflict that he characterized as "having a Waco type event every month that steadily gets worse"[10] would be "pretty much at everyone's doorstep"[9] and erupt by 2008.


Titor Wiki


Timings are out but hey right now anything is possible whilst we are playing dot to dot.



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 04:22 PM
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USNews World Report: Forget Hitler - Trump is the New William Jennings Bryan


Pundits and academics toyed for a while with branding Donald Trump with the scarlet H – warning of his rise as a replay of the fall of Weimar Germany and the emergence of Adolf Hitler. Trump’s suggestions that the government surveil mosques, deport undocumented Mexicans and prevent Muslims from entering the U.S. was originally hailed as more Nazi than American, until we reflected on the pervasiveness of NSA surveillance, the treatment of Japanese-Americans during World War II and the mass deportations of Operation Wetback in 1954. Indeed, there are enough examples of such Trumpisms in the American tradition for comparisons of demagoguery without having to conjure up Hitler.

Consider William Jennings Bryan, who captured the Democratic presidential nomination 120 years ago in 1896. He made a name for himself as a journalist (both before and after serving as a member of the House of Representatives) and importantly as an orator who toured the country to speak to populist groups and agitate for the abandonment of the gold standard and the adoption of a silver-based currency. In his appeal to lowbrow tastes, his ability to turn politics into popular entertainment and his willingness to play to prejudice against judgment, Bryan was closer to a modern-day reality TV star than Trump is to Hitler.



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 04:22 PM
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The Atlantic: How the Fake News Crisis of 1896 Explains Trump


Fake news is everywhere. The power of the press is said to be waning. And because the nation’s most famous populist—the man with his sights on the presidency—can’t trust the lying media, he says, he has no option but to be a publisher himself.

Oh yeah, and the year is 1896. The would-be president in question is William Jennings Bryan. In an era before the internet, television, or radio, the best way to reach the masses is with newsprint. So, without the option of tweeting his grievances after losing the election to William McKinley, what does Bryan do? He starts his own newspaper. And he uses it to rail against “fake news.”

I don’t need to tell you a lot of this sounds weirdly familiar.

“There seems to be anepidemic of fake news from the city of Lincoln, [Nebraska], and it all comes from Mr. Bryan’s ‘friends’—names not given,” Bryan’s newspaper, The Commoner, wrote in 1907. “It would seem unnecessary to deny reports sent out to which no name was attached, and yet it has been necessary to send a number of telegrams to notify other papers that the report was unauthorized … As Mr. Bryan has a paper—The Commoner—through which he speaks every week, and as he is speaking often and giving out interviews frequently, a newspaper ought to view with suspicion any report sent out from Lincoln or anywhere else purporting to state what Mr. Bryan thinks or intends to do.”


This is nuts, they used the same buzzwords and tactics.
So in this case "The Commoner" paper = Trumps Twitter feed, lol!



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 04:23 PM
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You've gotta love ALL the distractions. Planet X is a month away from destroying our planet and the government has us right where they want us.



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 04:29 PM
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a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

Because of logistics, science and physics, the whole chip thing is bogus fiction. Other than that, it's completely real. In our minds and good movies and novels.

The odds of using the chips as they are now(In the cards) will likely be far more utilized, and cellphones will reign supreme, 'better than plastic'.

While the whole injection theory for the controversial task is a good inception for the theory there is something more sinister at hand, the lack of convenience in the actual injection is specifically what makes the plan impossible. The market lifespan of RFID tags is 3-5 years. This is based on a static electrical charge that decays overtime, like a 'battery'. Can you not imagine how short the lifespan of a current in a ricechip rfid lasts? or how easy that would be to break? Even calling it a 'chip'(microchip) is a disgrace to technological terminology, it processes nothing individually. It's a wire that has electricity zapped into it. Interestingly enough, this frequency is generally unique, making it reasonable for reverse locating information on the internet, similar to how a DNS server list works.



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 04:43 PM
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a reply to: muzzleflash

now this is the type of thread that got me to sign up to above top secret.

i just ordered the two books from amazon.

thank you for this wonderful thread man.



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 04:50 PM
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So the Wizard of Oz was written about what?
William Jennings Bryan and the crusade against the gold standard?
L. Frank Baum claimed it was merely written for children, but many scholars believe it was an satirical allegory for the politics of the 1890's era. He was a supporter of the Populists and W.J. Bryan as well.

Here's a great article from USA Gold discussing the many great reasons why it's commonly believed the famous fantasy tale was really based in the reality of the times and Baum's views on them.

Also check this one out from The Economist:
William Jennings Trump and the Monetary Elite

So they are saying that Trump drew a lot of inspiration from the Tea Party movement a few years back, which makes sense. But wait, we are talking about Wizard of Oz comparisons, but wasn't the Mad Hatter's Tea Party from Alice and Wonderland? Hmmm, I guess it makes sense that William Jennings Bryan did mention Lewis Carroll's books several times (which was written in 1865) as that was a hugely popular work of the time period.

And I do think that Ingersoll's Baron Trump book has a few parallels with it (Alice) as well as with many other widely known works of the period...


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posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 05:32 PM
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a reply to: muzzleflash

Oh, nice job, that has to be him alright. Lockwood seems to have been opposed to Bryan, but doesn't portray him as evil as much as misguided and maybe naive.




He went to the Convention demanding the free and unlimited coinage of silver, crying: "You shall not press down upon the brow of labor this crown of thorns. You shall !not crucify mankind upon a cross of gold ."


Apparently Lockwood references this on page 36 of The Last President, he writes about Bryan's internal struggle and foreshadows his change of heart:


He was under a terrible strain. When he had caught up the sceptre of power, it seemed a mere bauble in his strong grasp, but now it had grown strangely heavy, and there was a mysterious pricking at his brow, as if that crown of thorns which he had not willed should be set upon the heads of others, where being pressed down with cruel hands upon his own.



originally posted by: muzzleflash
In Stone's opinion, Bryan had one of the least disciplined minds of the 19th century


Haha, that's quite an attack on Bryan. I don't think Trump is racist either, and I don't know if Bryan was more racist than most people back then, but there sure are a lot of similarities in the stuff you've dug up. Fake news, even. Good thread.
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posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 05:37 PM
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originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
a reply to: lizardghost

that photo has been posted on here time and time again. plus your not the first to claim it being them.
if it is you, post a picture of yourself like the guy did in this thread. you could have at least picked something that hasn't been used. the member name is timetraveler1

Time Traveler Revealed





Quick question, then I go to the link the thread only has the OP's dialogue, what happen to the other members contributions to the thread?



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 06:18 PM
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a reply to: solargeddon

i guess that i clicked the members posts in threads link under his name. if you do a search, well never mind here's the thread link.
Time Traveler Revealed



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 09:36 PM
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originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician
a reply to: neo96

Crypto Currency is limited, and eventually will run dry. They knew this from the creation of Bitcoin. The new currency will be the "chip", that the elites will require everyone to get as an injection under their skin in the right hand or forehead. We've all seen the (rice sized) chips, but that will still be too large for the public to accept. In the advent of nano, and even picometre techology, they would be able to construct the chip so small, that they could give one a local injection, justnas if getting a flu shot....and done. The internet is rife with news articles, and even mainstream news, that go back over 20 years pitching this as an idea. There is a company in Wisconsin called Digiwell, that has recently installed the rice sized chip in all of its employees as a working template (they're guinea pigs essentially) to see how "convenient it will be. Of course, if one believes in the Bible (I certainly do) this had already been predicted in Revelations 13 over 2K years ago, but because Jesus didn't come right down, get on CNN and warn people where their ears can hear, and eyes can see....many refute this as happenstance. Wifi or air can't be quantified and people believe that, but Jesus to many is a fictional story book hero, because they've never seen him. Go figure.


:-) Good and pointed post, amusing too. Agreeing with a grin can be quite a pleasurable delight. :-)



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