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Two Books From 1800s Predict Trump as The Last President??

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posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 10:33 PM
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a reply to: muzzleflash

Wow. Most interesting thread in quite awhile...and call me batshft crazy, but what about the interesting lyrics of "Black Hole Sun" by Chris Cornell/Soundgarden...just have to say kinda weird all the way around. Poor Chris you are missed. What the hell did you know? genius.com...

And by the by, why would Trump do all this at 70+, a gazillionaire and no problemos, unless he came, went or was going somewhere most of us have never been? I know, I know I am going to have another Sky & Tonic. *sneaky sneaks away*

S&F - I always have admired your threads. Smooches truly and not in a bad way!




posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 10:41 PM
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Can't help it, Ivanka = Jane / John.

Wiki - John (Given Name) Eastern European Derivatives

Bulgarian, Croatian, Macedonian, Serbian, Ukrainian...

(Trumps daughter and adviser, mother is Ivana)
This is too easy...
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posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 10:41 PM
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I'm reading Marvelous Underground Journey (per the previous post) and it is fascinating in so many ways but concerning the president, I guess I've only thought reincarnation, and specifically his son, Baron.

So far, a Von Troomp of short stature and his faithful companion, have found the bottomless well in the Urals and via an underground "highway" constructed of polished rock, have visited three civilizations. The descriptions of the bodies, senses, livelihoods, means of maintenance and the environs are highly plausible. We top dwellers get sympathy for living in hot, cold, wind and are referred to as Coal people.

The interesting thing about the book is that it opens with a chapter called "Biographical Notice of Wilhelm...Von Troomp, Commonly Called Little Baron Trump." This section "proves" that the Little Baron in the story is Von Troomp of Pomerian (teehee) descent.

I guess I have to finish this up and read the other. Thanks for the continued info.



posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 10:45 PM
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a reply to: Missmissie173

Maybe it's Barron rather than Donald, that's Titor/Thor?
It seems more and more like that the further I dig.

Chris Cornell
Soundgarden?

Check this out:


Black Sun



posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 10:49 PM
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Thank you for this thread, I think your one of my favorites on ats now.a reply to: muzzleflash



posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 11:04 PM
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What if the author of The Last President was the time traveler detailing his future and publishing it in the past so that it could be found in case he didn't return? If I was a time traveler I could see doing something like this to spread critical information if it was too risky to do so in my own time period or ones fairly close.

Either way I personally don't think there is time travel but I would like to be proven wrong.



posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 11:54 PM
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originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: muzzleflash


Yeah, that thread didn't explain anything.

People who cannot watch videos won't know anything about this unless someone writes up an explanation and informs them about the different conspiracy theories swirling around these books.


Yeah, I hate threads that only use a video without explanation (99% of the time I refuse to watch videos), and it's one of my pet peeves, but the thread does already address the subject, so....


I'm not really sure why she didn't bother explaining anything


Laziness?


Not I'm just getting old, and feeble of mind and body, sorry , I did want to share the information.

This is why I seldom start topics , I get ridiculed in a topic before I can even participate.


Anyway, I have a great video that seem to tie up some lose ends, bone chilling actually.

I'm so happy muźzy did this topic justice.

ATS is a cruel place, always was, always will be, yesterday I was an idiot, today I'm lazy.

Did you talk about Trump having access to Tesla theories, I lost interest in reading all the post,
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posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 12:21 AM
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a reply to: Stormdancer777

Hi. You're not an idiot, you're someone I always love seeing. I think you're pretty keen.

Do you mean the video you linked in your thread?
I still have yet to watch it. Will watch it tomorrow sometime.

Someone linked to the Tesla stuff, and I probably should go dig some old threads up about it for those who aren't fully aware yet.

I admit fault there, tomorrow I'll add it.



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 12:30 AM
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originally posted by: Stormdancer777

ATS is a cruel place, always was, always will be, yesterday I was an idiot, today I'm lazy.


I'm actually glad you were tired that day.
I really wanted to post this and almost didn't, but used your lack of a synopsis as my excuse lol.

I'll never be cruel to you tho. How could I be? You're valuable and indispensable. Don't mind the critics, keep being you.



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 12:39 AM
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a reply to: muzzleflash Thank you for your very interesting post!! I have heard about the Baron Trump old book...so I plan to try and read these tomorrow! Can't wait to see what they say! Also, I remember being completely up to speed on the John Titor stuff when it was all going on, but I had never heard about a Trump/JT connection. Definitely gonna look this up! Again, thanks for something new and different to think of




posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 12:39 AM
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a reply to: Stormdancer777

Oh please, you have been a wonderful member to this place and screw anyone that says different...some days people read one thing and some days another...there is no need for the mean vitriol that some play around here.

You are a jewel - please play the video.



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 12:40 AM
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originally posted by: VashTheStampede
What if the author of The Last President was the time traveler detailing his future and publishing it in the past so that it could be found in case he didn't return? If I was a time traveler I could see doing something like this to spread critical information if it was too risky to do so in my own time period or ones fairly close.

Either way I personally don't think there is time travel but I would like to be proven wrong.


I personally don't really think Time Travel is possible either, but you're right that we may be wrong.

It's certainly a fun topic to play with though. Definitely gets the brain thinking. Alternate explanations are fun to explore too!



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 12:43 AM
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originally posted by: TruthJava
a reply to: muzzleflash Thank you for your very interesting post!! I have heard about the Baron Trump old book...so I plan to try and read these tomorrow! Can't wait to see what they say! Also, I remember being completely up to speed on the John Titor stuff when it was all going on, but I had never heard about a Trump/JT connection. Definitely gonna look this up! Again, thanks for something new and different to think of



I will try to dig up some of the best info on the Titor Trump connections tomorrow and link it in here for ya. It's a real mind blower!



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 12:47 AM
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originally posted by: Missmissie173
a reply to: Stormdancer777

Oh please, you have been a wonderful member to this place and screw anyone that says different...some days people read one thing and some days another...there is no need for the mean vitriol that some play around here.

You are a jewel - please play the video.


Yes ATS can be really harsh.
Im not innocent.

I always regret being a jerk.
And I'm sorry.



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 04:30 AM
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I read an old prophecy that claimed the 45th president of American would be the last president, although it also said the last president was a female. But in all reality Trump is the 44th person to serve as president so we may have one left.

www.google.com...



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 05:07 AM
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originally posted by: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
I'm gonna have a look too. Damn, thats creepy, like the Titan/Titanic novel.


Oh? I had no idea there was such a thing...how intriguing all of this is!



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 05:09 AM
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a reply to: muzzleflash

I saw the thread about the Baron book, but I don't do videos so I only read the parallels in the comments. I didn't know about this other one...that is damned bizarre and now I'm really intrigued.



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 09:50 AM
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Freaky - like......Trump was born on the 14th of June 1946 & on the 1st day he took office (day after inauguration) he was 70 years, 7 months & 7 days old - coinciding with the Jewish year 5777.

Also...

-Israel was 77 days old exactly 777 days after Donald Trump was born.

-Israel’s 70th birthday will come exactly 700 days after Trump’s 70th birthday.

-Donald Trump won the election on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s 7th year, 7th month and 7th day in office.

Check it out.



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 10:56 AM
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Could Baba Vanga have been right considering that Franklin Delano Roosevelt served as two presedents
—Four-Term President—and the Election of 1944
www.gilderlehrman.org...



Before her death in 1996, she had even suggested there would be an economic crisis at the time of the 44th president’s rise to power and predicted a ‘peacemaker’ who would ‘sign the lasting peace’ after he stepped down. She also said Europe would ‘cease to exist’ by the end of 2017.
Read more: metro.co.uk...

Add from above link by Bwomp83


While Donald Trump will be the 45th president, he will be only the 44th person — the 44th male — to actually hold the job. Recall that President Grover Cleveland served two non-consecutive terms: He won election in 1884, lost in 1888, and won again in 1892 — so he is considered both the 22nd and 24th president.

www.usatoday.com...
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posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 11:07 AM
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wow even nazi ufos? this is the biggest rabbit hole ever or what????!!!



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