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Originally posted by AdamJ
In the case of Flight 93, the plane hit the ground in one piece and left a BIG crater when it hit. If it was shot down there would be a huge debris field from the missile.
Originally posted by Zaphod58
Pilots do NOT need ground control to set a course. There are numerous navigation aids that assist them with no help from ground control. They fly set courses so that they don't fly into other airplanes going the other direction, or even in the same direction. Do you really think that planes flying International flights are in constant communication with ground control? They have a texting system that lets them report as they hit each waypoint, but they're not being controlled by ground control.
They set a route before departure, and file a flight plan so that if there is an accident then they know where to start looking for them. Otherwise they would have a much bigger area to search in if they lose contact. Pilots are NOT going to get lost if they don't talk to ground control.
For the record, the guy that flew the plane into the Pentagon WAS a licensed commercial pilot. He failed the FIRST time he tried to get his license, but was successful on the second attempt. He had his license revoked when he failed to have a physical performed as required, but that doesn't mean he suddenly didn't know anything about flying again. All the others passed their flight exams on the first try.
Originally posted by pepsi78
1 The problem is that some of them still fluked the class.
2 The oficial statement of the flight istructors remains the same.
3 Some of the hi jakers are still alive in fact alot of them, it just shows the
fbi just randomly picked out people from the arab nations, some of them are out raged of the fact.
4 on the same very day it just hapens that they were runing a 911 type of drill in the same way at the same time that the 911 events hapened.
[edit on 11-11-2005 by pepsi78]
Originally posted by ashmok
a) Some people said "a hijacked plane? it must be a part of the exercise", therefore that proves the exercise was hijack-related, and
b) NORAD said they had ran drills where hijacked planes were used as weapons, so, uh, maybe they were doing that on 9/11
Not what I'd call conclusive, really.
MR. LEHMAN: Why did they head out to sea first?
GEN. ARNOLD: Our standard -- we have agreements with the FAA, and by the way we are looking outward. This is an advantage to us, and so we'd have agreements for clearance. When we scramble an aircraft, there is a line that is picked up, and the FAA and everyone is on that line. And the aircraft take off and they have a predetermined departure route. And of course, it's not over water, because our mission, unlike law enforcement's mission, is to protect things coming towards the United States. And I might even add in all of our terrorist scenarios that we run, the aircraft, if we were to intercept aircraft, it is usually always from outside the United States coming towards us.
So our peacetime procedures, to de-conflict with civil aviation's, so as to not have endanger civil aviation in any particular way.
GEN. MCKINLEY: Secretary Lehman, also if I may add, the complexity of the air traffic over the Northeast corridor is so complex that to just launch fighters, as you know, sir, from your background, into that air traffic system can cause potential damage or midair collision. So we rely on the FAA to de-conflict those corridors. And that is another reason why it vectored east originally.
Originally posted by HowardRoark
That is true. Most of the 911 conspiracy theories have been shredded pretty thoroughly in these forums.
Originally posted by pepsi78
No i am sure of it
The statement is we scrabled jets but in the other way.
It was the oficial statement.
After a while they stated that they send them over the pacific that is the other way the oposite way.