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posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 11:04 AM
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a reply to: daskakik



Many Antifa activists self identify as communists. To me, they must not have a clue as to what that means. To attack the Nazis and white nationalists is one thing, but to embrace communism makes them a bigger enemy to this country than anyone.




Is this the plan? divide us along racial lines and then eliminate who they don't like? There is a very dark agenda behind what is going on now and I pray people wont be blind to it.
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posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 11:18 AM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk




Or, are you merely debating whether antifa are fascists or not?


The Thing is, there is no debate. We have another case of false equivalency and thus quite a few perfect non sequiturs around, but even that is a matter of fact and not really up to debate either.

Just warm, or should I say hot, air for Mockingbirds to fly. Shoot a pic or two?




posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 11:34 AM
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Antifa are more of the same violent left wing communist and sooner or later the liberals will use their votes and dispose them out.



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 11:44 AM
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a reply to: openminded2011

I would think that is the white supremacists' plan.

The neo-communists are more inclusive than the communists of the early 20th century. At least they seem to be and if so, your fear is misplaced. If a purge is the greatest threat then I would keep on eye on the groups that actively preach and seek one.



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 12:37 PM
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a reply to: PublicOpinion

What on Earth are you talking about??????



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 01:55 PM
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a reply to: Jobeycool

Well, you are partially correct, not all Antifa are communists, the majority are anarchists, with others being communist or socialist and then a small minority of Demsocs.

You are correct in saying the liberals will dispose of us, see, right now the Liberals tolerate us because they only view us as being anti-trump, they don't understand as Insurgents, or other 'Revolutionary tendencies' we are against all politics and parties
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posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 03:30 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: openminded2011

I would think that is the white supremacists' plan.

The neo-communists are more inclusive than the communists of the early 20th century. At least they seem to be and if so, your fear is misplaced. If a purge is the greatest threat then I would keep on eye on the groups that actively preach and seek one.



They are more inclusive? Yes, just ask any white male.



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 03:38 PM
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originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule
a reply to: Dem0nc1eaner

I'll stop calling them fascists when they stop acting like ones.



There not the same though they have similarities.Communism is global socialism, and fascism is national socialism. The ONLY real difference between the two is one of scope and geography. Fascist was started by muesilinni he was a socialist and believed in Carl marx ideaology. People see Nazi's and think that is the way all fascists operate it not.

Nazid was hi bred of comunists and fascists. Hitler saw communism as a threat but when he was trying to gain power they were in control. So in his mind communism was evil but he ends up adopting many of their principles in order to gain followers. He wanted the state to control industry and social programs because he saw this as necessary to defeat communism.

But in Italy it was different comunists and fascists worked together. The separation of the two was not well defined. Mussolini was a Marxist. Mussolini did not move to the right or radically change his political philosophy. He merely rejected one tenet of orthodox Marxism: class must come before nationality or any other group identity.

My thinking at this moment is Nazism is an extreme form of government to exert its will on its people. You can do that by force, but it's better for them to submit willingly. Nationalism is a tool to create unity, hence willingness to submit. The Nazi's used race as a ploy to enable this. I think the combination of losing the first world war, the sanctions and other forces, pushed extremists into power. In some ways, I think this might even explain North Korea. When nations are pushed to their limits, they resort to extremism. I won't deny they deserved to be pushed into a corner, but it's regrettable. There're other ways nations can respond to pressure. It's sad the German people didn't start a coup to topple the Nazi's. But they were probably complicit too. (see link below)

The groundwork existed earlier in German history. They just used it:

The video is long winded but there's lots of good stuff there. Here:
en.wikipedia.org - On the Jews and Their Lies...

Written in 1543 "by the German Reformation leader Martin Luther."

Regarding the German's being complicit in Hitler's reign of power:
www.psychologicalscience.org - Why Do People Defend Unjust, Inept, and Corrupt Systems?...
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posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 03:42 PM
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a reply to: openminded2011

Any white male? Like the ones protesting with them?

Besides, I didn't say "all inclusive".



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 04:14 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: SprocketUK


They are fascists.

Anti Fascists. Learn to read.


They use physical violence to stifle contrary ideas.

That makes the US gubment fascists, they actually bomb foreign countries.


They use economic violence to punish those who aren't cowed by their threats.

US gubment calls that Sanctions, Embargoes, and Blockades.


They don't care about anyone other than themselves and pick causes merely to provide a vehicle for their own need to be the only voice.

No, the 'Fascists' are the ones using "vehicles" to mow down peaceful demonstrators and stifle their voice.



wouldn't surprise me if we later learn the mower was antifa. They've been seen putting on nazi insignias and going to the other side to start the trouble.

Many racists say they're not racist and even antiracists. Calling yourself anti means nothing.



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 04:19 PM
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originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
Here i thought that burning looting and using violence to scare your opponent was being anarchist, with comunist tendencies, i guess murikans decided to change the meaning of the word fascit.

Da peoplez are bad bad, there fascist, yea its so cool.



anarchy isn't that disorder, not organized and coordinated doxxing, censoring, and violently shutting down all dialogue and free speech?




anarchy definition
a state of disorder due to absence or nonrecognition of authority.


Antifa has leadership, and is well organized and coordinated in their attacks against freedom and america.

I think we should start adding anti to everything that isn't just to make a point, about to make a racist remark in joke call yourself an antiracist first, a sexist remark, call yourself antisexist first.

Change anti from meaning opposite to meaning doubling down on actually being the thing you re anti for in common speech.

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posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 04:43 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: openminded2011

Any white male? Like the ones protesting with them?

Besides, I didn't say "all inclusive".



No but you implied that they would not be like the previous Bolsheviks because they are more inclusive. If they ever came to power they would exterminate whoever opposed them. They are EXACTLY like the Russian Bolsheviks, make no mistake. And I bet the white males protesting with them would be the first to find this out.
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posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 05:10 PM
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originally posted by: openminded2011
No but you implied that they would not be like the previous Bolsheviks because they are more inclusive.

It wasn't implied. It is what I said.


If they ever came to power they would exterminate whoever opposed them. They are EXACTLY like the Russian Bolsheviks, make no mistake.

Just like any group. That is why this type of finger pointing fails.


And I bet the white males protesting with them would be the first to find this out.

I'm pretty sure the Bolsheviks were white males so they can't be the same if this was to happen.
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posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 05:37 PM
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originally posted by: Xenogears

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: SprocketUK


They are fascists.

Anti Fascists. Learn to read.


They use physical violence to stifle contrary ideas.

That makes the US gubment fascists, they actually bomb foreign countries.


They use economic violence to punish those who aren't cowed by their threats.

US gubment calls that Sanctions, Embargoes, and Blockades.


They don't care about anyone other than themselves and pick causes merely to provide a vehicle for their own need to be the only voice.

No, the 'Fascists' are the ones using "vehicles" to mow down peaceful demonstrators and stifle their voice.



wouldn't surprise me if we later learn the mower was antifa. They've been seen putting on nazi insignias and going to the other side to start the trouble.

Many racists say they're not racist and even antiracists. Calling yourself anti means nothing.

I agree the whole thing is staged theatre for the cameras to drive their agenda.

One sign of that was how the police let the fighting go on all day, hardly arresting anyone.

Compared to Occupy, Dakota Pipeline and Ferguson demonstrations, where arrests were in the hundreds.

During Occupy, 700 hundred were arrested on Brooklyn bridge in one day alone.



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 05:58 PM
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a reply to: Xenogears

Oh, wow, spooked much?

seriously though, you are wrong



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 05:59 PM
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a reply to: intrptr

So, if the police didn't arrest anyone, because it was a "Staged Alt-Left event" what about the "Alt-Right" that was attacking the "Alt-Left" is that not part of your conspiracy?



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 06:10 PM
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originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: intrptr

So, if the police didn't arrest anyone, because it was a "Staged Alt-Left event" what about the "Alt-Right" that was attacking the "Alt-Left" is that not part of your conspiracy?


The police intentionally let the fighting develop all day long until the grand finale...

An explosion of MSM and internet resulted.

Hey, what happened to the endless coverage of election hacking?

Theres your sign.



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 06:25 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: openminded2011
No but you implied that they would not be like the previous Bolsheviks because they are more inclusive.

It wasn't implied. It is what I said.


If they ever came to power they would exterminate whoever opposed them. They are EXACTLY like the Russian Bolsheviks, make no mistake.

Just like any group. That is why this type of finger pointing fails.


And I bet the white males protesting with them would be the first to find this out.

I'm pretty sure the Bolsheviks were white males so they can't be the same if this was to happen.



Ok, then just answer me ONE question, why is the left vilifying white males with so many generalizations that its blatant bigotry? If anyone spoke about any other race or ethnicity with such generalizations they would be rightly called out as racists, but its just fine for the left to attack ALL white males. IMHO this categorizes them as a hate group. And before you start calling me a racist or white nationalist (I am not) I don't like people demeaning ANYONE regardless of skin color. I don't like either group that was represented in Charlottesville.
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posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 06:37 PM
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a reply to: Nikola014

May I ask, would you would consider our military structure itself to be socialist function ,in service to America?.
After all those years of reading in school NOW they don't know;history ,civics or social studies,and HERE we are..Apparently they don't teach it on CELLPHONES.



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 06:48 PM
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originally posted by: openminded2011
Ok, then just answer me ONE question, why is the left vilifying white males with so many generalizations that its blatant bigotry?

You would have to ask them.

I'm not sure exactly what you are referring to. Is it all white males or is it a subset?

My guess is that whoever it is, it is just a way to focus a group's anger. Sucks, but it happens.




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