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I would not be surprised if Russia is behind the recent instability in the US

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posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 02:33 AM
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a reply to: majesticgent

Maybe all these events were caused by Soviet sleeper agents that got activated too late after the Cold War ended. I think originally all these events
were supposed to happen to in order to destabilize the US to make way for a Soviet invasion.


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posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 02:45 AM
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As the Roman empire fell, they too blamed everyone but themselves for it.

I think this just takes the "Blame Russia" theme to ever more ridiculous heights. I mean, the globalist elites wouldn't wreck the country to get their own way.......would they?



posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 02:48 AM
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a reply to: Britguy

Everything seems clearer from a distance.

Well stated sir.



posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 03:03 AM
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a reply to: majesticgent

Arrogance is a sure first step towards failure. So the US is kind of three miles down the road from that first step. Can't be Russia, it has to be at least illuminati type of conspiracy or the inner-American-anti-US-global-elite, because they think they're so awesome...
Let's keep denying that Putin had a personal feud with Hillary. Let's keep pretending the cold war ended. And most of all let's keep thinking the population of the US is immune to propaganda.
You might be on to something, but it's much too uncomfortable for the American average ego to even consider it a possibility.



posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 03:08 AM
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a reply to: majesticgent

I don't accept this for one second. Its like ISIS. it pops up out of nowhere and its a way of demonising Russia and creating the pretext for war with Russia, China and Iran.

As Paul Wolfowitz, the neoconservative who was Deputy Secretary of Defense under the Bush regime, declared:
“Our first objective is to prevent the re-emergence of a new rival, either on the territory of the former Soviet Union or elsewhere, that poses a threat on the order of that posed formerly by the Soviet Union. This is a dominant consideration underlying the new regional defense strategy and requires that we endeavor to prevent any hostile power from dominating a region whose resources would, under consolidated control, be sufficient to generate global power.”

- Paul Craig Roberts.



posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 03:12 AM
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No it's the liberal poor loser Democrats,ignorance and childness thats their style,they are hell bent on US become socialist,all these tatics that Hitler used were repeated last 10 years,Obama was a tool joke played on the US



posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 03:13 AM
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originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight

Karma's a bi"tch when it comes back to bight you in your own back yard. Unfortunately as per usual the common man will pay the price of this crap. The leaders of both continue to make heaps for themselves and their crony mates.


What's gonna be next ? Putin created the KKK and is paying the Charlottesville protester 25$ ?



posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 03:27 AM
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The guys running stuff have no problem as long as we keep fighting and bitching and complaining to and about one another for this and that reason, or whatever.

As long as we don't get together about a common issue or cause and fight with them.

We Be Fooooked.



posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 03:37 AM
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a reply to: bananashooter
a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

Russia knows very well they can't take the world by force, and I don't think they'd want to, but that doesn't mean they aren't trying to regain their influence. Of course they are worried about US bases in former Soviet countries that managed to free themselves, but that many Russians still consider as part of the "Russian world" as it's called, Russkiy mir. When the Soviets fell it seemed for a while that history had come to an end, but the same conflicts of interest are still there and the major players are back to their old tricks.

Of course Russia is much weaker than it was then, and we shouldn't drum up any unnecessary paranoia, but at the same time we have to see Russia for what it is. Russia didn't create the refugee crisis, that's our own fault if it's anyone's fault, and Russia didn't screw over our economy. But they are exploiting and exacerbating what is already there, they are worried about Eastern Europe drifting away from them and into the arms of the west, so they need to create some confusion and infighting. And unfortunately that is quite easy to do right now, in an open society with free press and a lot of underlying social tensions.

I still don't know what to make of DNC affair, but it'd be extremely naive to discount the possibility. We already know about their state-run news channels, and their support for extremist groups. At the same time we shouldn't throw the baby out with the bath water; just because something benefits Russia it doesn't automatically make it a bad thing for us.



posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 03:41 AM
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a reply to: theultimatebelgianjoke

How does this all blend together in your mind.

Your mind must be like a blender.

Con=with....Fusion=with blending.

Reminds me of a Phil Collins song.



posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 03:59 AM
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a reply to: MyHappyDogShiner

Just trying to anticipate the next idiotic statement meant at scapegoating Russia in order to distract peoples from the real culprits.
As TheConstruKctionofLight stated, there is a lot Karma involved with what is happening at the moment.
Unloading responsabilities onto someone else is easy, but you will never get rid of problems if you chose not to face them.



posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 04:28 AM
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a reply to: majesticgent

I keep saying the same thing.. Everyone wants to blame Soros or other boogeymen instead..

Foundations of Geopolitics


The book was co-authored by General Nikolai Klokotov of the General Staff Academy. Colonel General Leonid Ivashov, head of the International Department of the Russian Ministry of Defence, apparently advised in the project. Klokotov stated that in the future the book would "serve as a mighty ideological foundation for preparing a new military command." Dugin has asserted that the book has been adopted as a textbook in many Russian educational institutions.



In the United States: Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists". Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics."

en.wikipedia.org...

Russian Extremists Are Training Right-Wing Terrorists From Western Europe


Melin and Thulin told the police they didn’t see anything strange about their Russia trip—after all, other people from their movement had attended Partisan as well. This seems weird, given that the ultra-right in Sweden is traditionally more skeptical of the Kremlin than far-right fringe groups in the rest of Europe. But according to Jonathan Leman, a researcher for the anti-racist pressure group EXPO, there was a tactical shift of consciousness within movements like Nordic Resistance over the course of the Ukraine crisis. “As the role of the EU and the United States in the war becomes more apparent,” he told us, “you could see that pro-Kremlin propaganda was having a greater impact on far right websites in Sweden.” Initially, RIM was useful to the Kremlin because it recruited and trained volunteers to go and fight on the side of the separatists in Eastern Ukraine. But now, the movement’s military arm seems to have retreated from doing the Russian government’s dirty work. The focus of Partisan, its website says, is to prepare civilians for “the collapse of civilization.”

www.thedailybeast.com...
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posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 04:33 AM
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Once you get tired of your twinkies and strippers, like when you start to get old, you'll maybe realize all this crap you see on the media is nonsense that is fed to you to babble about around the water cooler.

...like you do...



posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 04:38 AM
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a reply to: clay2 baraka

Summary of the Foundations of Geopolitics (Putin's playbook)


The book states that "the maximum task [of the future] is the 'Finlandization' of all of Europe".

In Europe: Germany should be offered the de facto political dominance over most Protestant and Catholic states located within Central and Eastern Europe. Kaliningrad oblast could be given back to Germany. The book uses the term "Moscow-Berlin axis".
France should be encouraged to form a "Franco-German bloc" with Germany. Both countries have a "firm anti-Atlanticist tradition".
The United Kingdom should be cut off from Europe. (Brexit)
Finland should be absorbed into Russia. Southern Finland will be combined with the Republic of Karelia and northern Finland will be "donated to Murmansk Oblast".
Estonia should be given to Germany's sphere of influence.
Latvia and Lithuania should be given a "special status" in the Eurasian-Russian sphere.
Poland should be granted a "special status" in the Eurasian sphere.
Romania, Macedonia, "Serbian Bosnia" and Greece – "orthodox collectivist East" – will unite with "Moscow the Third Rome" and reject the "rational-individualistic West".
Ukraine should be annexed by Russia because "Ukraine as a state has no geopolitical meaning, no particular cultural import or universal significance, no geographic uniqueness, no ethnic exclusiveness, its certain territorial ambitions represents an enormous danger for all of Eurasia and, without resolving the Ukrainian problem, it is in general senseless to speak about continental politics". Ukraine should not be allowed to remain independent, unless it is cordon sanitaire, which would be inadmissible.

In the Middle East and Central Asia:
The book stresses the "continental Russian-Islamic alliance" which lies "at the foundation of anti-Atlanticist strategy". The alliance is based on the "traditional character of Russian and Islamic civilization". Iran is a key ally. The book uses the term "Moscow-Tehran axis".
Armenia has a special role: It will serve as a "strategic base," and it is necessary to create "the [subsidiary] axis Moscow-Erevan-Teheran". Armenians "are an Aryan people … [like] the Iranians and the Kurds".
Azerbaijan could be "split up" or given to Iran.
Georgia should be dismembered. Abkhazia and "United Ossetia" (which includes Georgia's South Ossetia) will be incorporated into Russia. Georgia's independent policies are unacceptable.
Russia needs to create "geopolitical shocks" within Turkey. These can be achieved by employing Kurds, Armenians and other minorities.
The book regards the Caucasus as a Russian territory, including "the eastern and northern shores of the Caspian (the territories of Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan)" and Central Asia (mentioning Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan).

In Asia:
China, which represents a danger to Russia, "must, to the maximum degree possible, be dismantled". Dugin suggests that Russia start by taking Tibet-Xinjiang-Mongolia-Manchuria as a security belt. Russia should offer China help "in a southern direction – Indochina (except Vietnam), the Philippines, Indonesia, Australia" as geopolitical compensation.
Russia should manipulate Japanese politics by offering the Kuril Islands to Japan and provoking anti-Americanism.
Mongolia should be absorbed into Eurasia-Russia.

The book emphasizes that Russia must spread Anti-Americanism everywhere: "the main 'scapegoat' will be precisely the U.S."



posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 04:54 AM
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a reply to: majesticgent

I like the way Putin refers to the elites.
As if he weren't one of the richest men on earth.
He's as hypocritical as trump.
They were made for each other.
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posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 05:33 AM
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a reply to: clay2 baraka

It's the sad truth. Ultra-right groups like the Nordic Resistance Movement are Scandinavia's new useful idiots. But I know many users on this site will dismiss out of hand any suspicion on Russia, even when the Russian elites themselves publish their strategies in book form.



posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 06:00 AM
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Yes, that is Dugin. He is considered as quite fringe persona in Russia at least in terms of what (and why) should be done.

Dugin is successful because his analyzes of situation are often spot on and his reasoning is in harmony with Russian chauvinism. To be clear Putin is supporting and using nationalism also, but he is mentally 2 levels over Dugin, no need to gain inspiration from some second class egomaniac.
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Dugin wants to be - but is not - RasPutin

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posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 06:33 AM
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originally posted by: Cutepants
a reply to: clay2 baraka

It's the sad truth. Ultra-right groups like the Nordic Resistance Movement are Scandinavia's new useful idiots. But I know many users on this site will dismiss out of hand any suspicion on Russia, even when the Russian elites themselves publish their strategies in book form.


Have you read "The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives" by Zbigniew Brzezinski? It is same as Dugin but from other power center perspective. It is blueprint for wars that actually happened.



posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 06:43 AM
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originally posted by: JanAmosComenius

Have you read "The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives" by Zbigniew Brzezinski? It is same as Dugin but from other power center perspective. It is blueprint for wars that actually happened.


Zbigniew Brzezinski ... the anti-Russian Cold War warrior and architect of the US policy of backing jihadists in Afghanistan to 'bleed' the Soviet Union.

Zbigniew Brzezinski: Death of an anti-Russian terrorist


The Polish born Brzezinski put the historic blood-feud of his mother country ahead of the interests of the United States. He openly opposed Nixon and Ford’s policy of detente and orchestrated the use American power to arm and fund all those who sought to undermine the Soviet Union.

This became most apparent when he decided to use US might to fund, arm and train the Arab Mujahideen in Afghanistan. Among the fighters Brzezinski’s policy helped to arm was Osama bin-Laden, the founder of the Salafist terrorist group al-Qaeda. The group was later blamed for orchestrating and executing the September 11 terrorist atrocities in the United States.

Brzezinski was happy to ally with blood soaked jihadists in order to topple the secular, modern government of Afghanistan, for the simple reason that the government was a Soviet ally.

Brzezinski’s jihadists took over the country in the 1990s and famously executed and then mutilated the corpse of Afghanistan’s pro-Soviet President Dr. Mohammad Najibullah in 1996. Many blame the Brzezinski authored policies in Afghanistan for unleashing the plague of jihadist terrorism throughout the wider world.



posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 07:18 AM
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I would not be surprised if Russia is behind the recent instability in the US


What recent instability in the US?
There is no instability in the US.

The economy is fairly stable
Crime is fairly stable
Politics and policies are fairly stable

For all intents and purposes it's business as usual.
All there is is media sensationalism and twitter-outrage.




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