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US government operating (at least) 7 GA Avenger UCAVs

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posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 11:45 PM
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General Atomics offically confirmed the delivery of seven Avenger UCAVs to an undisclosed US government agency:


GA-ASI chasing Avenger sale to international customer

The potential deal could be a breakthrough for the slow-burning Avenger programme, which until now, only acknowledged the US Air Force operated a technology demonstrator since a public unveiling in 2009. This week, GA-ASI officials disclosed up to seven aircraft deliveries to an unnamed US government agency.

www.flightglobal.com...

TheWarzone mentions this as well:
www.thedrive.com...

I guess this confirmation is not really surprising. The Avenger has been a strong candidate for a grey world LO UCAV capability for years.




posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 12:01 AM
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A name like G A ....General Atomics.....just a cool futuristic sounding name

They rub out. The bad guys, huh! Oh, it's a tanker, bout time

Close to General Dynamics
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posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 01:07 AM
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Looks like they have a card in every program out there..



posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 01:56 AM
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I`m worried about the U.S. military I really am, they seem to be throwing their money into high tech futurisitic toys, like the nazis did with the tiger 2 and V 2 rockets and yet they were overwhelmed by shear numbers of common allied weapons.
I hope the American military isn`t making the same mistake.
sure it`s easy to wipe out the bad guys with a 200 billion dollar plane when the bad guys cant fight back but what happens when thousands of bad guys can fight back against your one billion dollar plane? as the Nazis learned in ww 2 numbers always beat technology.
hundreds of cheaply made Sherman tanks decimated 1 tiger 2 tank.


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posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 09:39 AM
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a reply to: mightmight

Cool video in the second link.



posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 09:58 AM
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Yeah well, just use some JASSMs in this threat environment. Drone swarms need logistical support too.
The laser thingy was cool though 😉

Anyway, regarding this mysterious unamed government agency operating the Avenger…
I came across this little piece a while back:


It was a candidate for the U.S. Navy Unmanned Carrier-Launched Airborne Surveillance and Strike (UClass) requirement, until that was modified. AIN was told that some were subsequently acquired by the CIA for covert operations where a faster transit time was required than the piston-powered MQ-1/9 Predator/Reaper UAVs

defencenews.in...

not the best source but it would add up


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posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 10:29 AM
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a reply to: mightmight

Pick anyone in the alphabet soup. Somehow, somewhere, they are running taxpayers blind as usual.



posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 10:49 AM
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a reply to: Tardacus

When it comes to air power, the US easily has the numbers game in check.

www.globalfirepower.com...

In the case of the F-35 (probably the most advanced aircraft know to be flying right now) the US air force is planning on buying 2443 plane which by themselves would make the 4th largest air force in the world.



posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 02:06 PM
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a reply to: Sammamishman

The numbers look worse when you consider how much Congress and the DoD has run the fleet into the ground and a good portion of those airplanes are probably not ready to fight. Silly that non-military users are buying and using this hardware. If they need it they should have to go through the military. The bridges that make them able to request that support need to be made easier to cross and money has to start being accounted for.



posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 02:28 PM
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I'm not really sure you can call the "C" model a UCAV as its still in development. It also could be part of the entry into the USN's unmanned tanker bid aka MQ-25

www.thedrive.com...



posted on Aug, 18 2017 @ 02:56 PM
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a reply to: Caughtlurking

They have tried for decades to overhaul the procurement and accounting system. But it's so monolithic at this point it's not funny. It's going to take an act of god to straighten it out now. They're trying though.



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 02:36 AM
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originally posted by: FredT
I'm not really sure you can call the "C" model a UCAV as its still in development. It also could be part of the entry into the USN's unmanned tanker bid aka MQ-25

They continue to develop the platform but apparently its already in service. In low numbers to be sure, but thats all you need when you trying to fill a small capability gap. With all the drone bombing going on during the last decade, a unmanned LO Strike capability was a no brainer and at this point it looks like we know which platform they chose.

Anyway why wouldnt you call an armed drone an UCAV anyway when its still being developed?



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 07:41 PM
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a reply to: Tardacus

This isn't large scale combat though. Many of the toys are designed to extract intelligence about potential nuclear and missile capability from very difficult locations, e.g. Iran and North Korea. In this environment, not being detected, and not being shot down and returning intact is worth quite a bit strategically. This is technology for cold warfare, not hot warfare.



posted on Aug, 19 2017 @ 10:39 PM
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a reply to: mbkennel

General atomics may be on the cusp of selling 90 (!!!) Avengers overseas.



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 10:00 PM
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originally posted by: anzha
a reply to: mbkennel

General atomics may be on the cusp of selling 90 (!!!) Avengers overseas.


India?



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 10:03 PM
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a reply to: Forensick

That's the suspected customer. They haven't named who it is yet though.



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 10:12 PM
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For all the tech wizardry and innovation this is a terrible way to make war.
It shouldn't become a video game.
Horrifying how much damage these things can do.
I know it's the idea but still, guess I miss swords.



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 10:32 PM
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a reply to: Asktheanimals

They do less damage than a manned aircraft does. And there's always a person in the loop. They might not see what happens in person, but they get just as good a look as a pilot dropping a bomb does. UAV pilots have more cases of PTSD and pilots dropping out because of the stress they're under than any other aviation related field.



posted on Aug, 20 2017 @ 10:55 PM
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In theory advanced would circle a specific individual or group in support scanning for IED and or long arm attacks from distances from other threat groups...

The drone(s) would accompany a soldier(s), scan for ied and evaluate then know ied locations from ground penetration technologies. It would also evaluate and scan the reach distances of long arm attacks and scan those distances from the center position of the moving individual(s) being able to respond before individual(s) are attacked. They can also track emitted objects path of fire...
So if cut off from communication the drones are communicating between each other and with other bases. Drones can then respond to individual(s) conflict if cut off from communication with primary supports... Implants or exterior attach devices may increase opportunity to assist.
But autonomous intelligence should be able to detect and respond to threats if required.



posted on Aug, 21 2017 @ 06:38 AM
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If you can get rid of the whiny motors, a small formation of 2 or 3 drones flying low in front of troops checking for mines or IED is an awesome use of technology.

Don't know if it's metal detectors or ground penetrating radar but imagine being able to send them out 15 meters in front of an advancing column who have full confidence there are no explosions about to happen under their feet!

It's not on topic though!




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