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The Raw Truth About WHY Charlottesville Happened - The American Crisis

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posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 07:24 PM
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The Mainstream Media has lied to everyone about what happened in Charlottesville and WHY it happened, but I'll explain to you exactly why this is going on and I will reveal to you the CORE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEMS that led us to this reality.

I will explain why the Alt-Right arose in the last few years and why the Left has been hijacked by a false narrative.
This is all so freakin simple and everyone will understand it.

It's not actually about RACE - that's just the simple minded ignorant viewpoint.
It's about CULTURE.
Read my following posts!!

Watch this video from the streets of Charlottesville so you'll understand exactly what I'm going to tell you:


(This video was brought to my attention on ATS by Grambler in his thread: Charlottesville violence thank you for sharing it)

I will just reiterate and add to my posts in the other thread, and some quotes from other members.
edit on 8/17/2017 by muzzleflash because: (no reason given)



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posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 07:25 PM
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Why has our society given street thugs a free pass to be violent and ignores it???

They aren't even leftists. They are just violent thugs that seek fights.

I've seen it here in Nashville too.

And it's not really a racial thing because there is a mix of races. It's a "Culture", primarily the lowest economic tier (poor people w substance abuse problems and long criminal records).

There are tons of senseless murders and countless assaults and robberies throughout this nation all the time and NO ONE WILL FACE THIS???

That "culture" has no place in our society and it's a far bigger threat than a few loud mouthed left or right wing nutjobs!!!

You lock your car doors everywhere you go because this culture operates unimpeded, people carry pepper spray tazers or guns because we live in fear of this "culture".

Why aren't we talking about this?
Obama AND Trump PROMISED to do something about this urban decay --- but nothings being done!!

Those weren't leftists. They have no politics. They were just petty thugs.
Wake up ppl!!!



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 07:25 PM
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If you espouse an opinion street thugs don't like they'll beat your face in - no matter where you are.

This is America. The culture of violence and anger is prevalent in every major city.

People live in fear.
The streets are not safe.
Do you lock your doors?

Step outside of the narrative you're being fed by the media.

Our real problems aren't social justice.
It's a criminal justice problem.

I live in one of the nicest neighborhoods in Nashville, rent here starts at 2000$ a month.

The gas station here gets robbed several times a week, and who knows how much shoplifting goes on.

Bums gather out back and drink beer. The cops clean them out weekly but they always return.

This is all part of our cultural erosion.
It's all connected.
Please think about what's really going on.

Those violent kids in that video, agitating a fight, they are perfect examples of urban culture, thug life mentality. People of all races fall into this crime based lifestyle and become violent criminals.

Our prisons are overflowing.
Poor uneducated are the most susceptible.

Think of the rates of domestic violence.
That's what created this atmosphere and led to this political predicament.

I just gave you the raw truth.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 07:26 PM
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originally posted by: Jonjonj
When the family was allowed to be destroyed we allowed the wolves at the gate free reign.
It is just a fact. Destroy family values, destroy society.
No more listening to grandad's words of wisdom, 'cos who was grandad again?


Exactly - Good Parenting needs to make a comeback.


originally posted by: JinMI

Working/buying/living also play a large role in that scenario.
Less and lower if not unchanged paying jobs. Spending power recedes as inflation grows. Those plus your example effect living.



The media is doing everything it can to railroad Trumps economic strategy by getting him tied up in this SJW fantasy garbage.


originally posted by: JinMI

I would agree.

To go further, I would say they are complicit in railroading any progress at all and complicit in the degeneration of society they continue to report.

Even if one does believe that Trump emboldens hateful ideologies, he didn't do it alone nor in a vacuum.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 07:26 PM
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We imprison more people than any other nation, and we have far more on probation or parole.

Our substance abuse epidemic is of unfathomable proportions.

Our education system is failing despite that we are in the birth of the Information Age and nearly everyone has technology at their fingertips that mankind couldn't even dream of for our entire history.

Our family structure has fallen apart and we have lost sight of our moral values.

Materialism and Opinions are the new religion, science and theology hardly have any place in our psychology.

Increasing numbers of people do not know how to control their emotions or how to interact properly with each other because no one is raising them from childhood properly and our society is not enforcing proper discipline and giving them Hope for a good life.

Racism and mindless partisan political drivel fill the airwaves, the Mainstream Media agitates the population with lies, obfuscation, disingenuous narratives that omit vast portions of the truth, and perpetuate false intellectualism under the guise of 'expert opinions' and talking heads lead their cults into divisive mumbo jumbo nonsense.

Our infrastructure is collapsing, our economy is struggling, we have become a welfare state and live in prisons of our own design whether it be your locked alarm-system rigged window-barred home or an actual state penitentiary.

Cars are being broken into right now all over America. Graffiti covers walls everywhere even in nice communities. People worry about walking down the street at night in those same nice neighborhoods. Couples are arguing and fighting, children are unloved and ignored, and someone just committed suicide because they saw no Hope, no way forward to progress.

How are we ever going to achieve any "great society" if we cannot deal with this???

I'm opening this discussion and I'd love to hear people's ideas so comment please.
Let's talk about REALITY.

This is why people got hurt in Charlottesville last week.
It's not about a stupid statue, it's not about skin color, it's about our ROTTING CULTURE, our LACK OF PROPER VALUES.
It's about how we IGNORE the FACTS and are not dealing with these problems properly!

This is bigger than the President, it's bigger than the Government, it's bigger than TV or Corporations.
It's about WE as a PEOPLE and WHO WE HAVE BECOME.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 07:32 PM
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They won't want to hear it because it means they have some of the blame for it.

Erode the family, erode the neighborhood, erode the faith community. People do not depend on each other. They turn to the state.

This is what you have left.

Look on it and despair.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 07:33 PM
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So really Charlottesville didn't happen because of Dem v. Rep, or BLM Antifa SJW v. KKK Nazi Alt-Right.

It happened because our entire nation is in turmoil due to all of these other fundamental problems.

We need to FOCUS on those fundamental issues - education, family, economics, morality, self control and maturity, civil rights and the justice system, rehabilitation and prevention, we need to take back control of the government and prevent corporations from usurping everything.

We need to love each other first and foremost and respect each other's opinions.

Remember the book by Harvey Silverglate called "Three Felonies a Day" where he explains that everyone is a criminal on a daily basis on average? Well we need to FACE that and change. Let's be a society where felonies are rare. Let's fix our legislation that outlaws absurd things and allows outrageous things.

This thing is so huge and complex yet so simple and straightforward.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 07:37 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
They won't want to hear it because it means they have some of the blame for it.

Erode the family, erode the neighborhood, erode the faith community. People do not depend on each other. They turn to the state.

This is what you have left.

Look on it and despair.




This is a great opportunity for people that care to step up and do something to help "Make America Great Again".
We gotta Love our Neighbors and focus on working together to fix our cities, to reign in the government.

People are fighting each other over skin color - that solves NOTHING.
Divide and Conquer. Problem Reaction Solution.
We are Sheep until we stand up and become Lions.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 07:47 PM
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a reply to: muzzleflash

It starts with a loving family. My mother is my mother. My father is my father. They loved and respected each other every day of their lives so far. My grandparents on both sides were the same.

My husband and I are the same.

My parents loved us girls and put us first in terms of seeing that our true needs (not material wants/selfish desires, but true needs) were always met. We were poor, but they taught us how to be rich with what we did have.

My husband and I are continuing that.

Learn and teach respect for life and for each other. I won't say we never, ever fight, but those are very rare and never serious and always easily settled. We teach each other faith and through that God.

It all starts at home ... and what begins in the home and in you will go outward.
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posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 07:59 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

One thing homes around our country may need to seriously consider doing is turning the TV off.

Imagine what would happen to the MSM if ratings plummeted to 5% of what they are right now.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 08:08 PM
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originally posted by: muzzleflash
The Mainstream Media has lied to everyone about what happened in Charlottesville and WHY it happened, but I'll explain to you exactly why this is going on and I will reveal to you the CORE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEMS that led us to this reality.

I will explain why the Alt-Right arose in the last few years and why the Left has been hijacked by a false narrative.
This is all so freakin simple and everyone will understand it.



And you'll explain it all for just 5 easy payments of 19.95 plus shipping and handling?



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 08:28 PM
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Unconfirmed anonymous source, so take it worth a gran of salt:

“We [Charlotesville police] were ordered to bring the rival groups together. As soon as they were in contact with each other, we were told to stand down. It was outrageous. We weren’t allowed to arrest anyone without asking the mayor first. We weren’t even allowed to stop the driver as he sped away.“ “The event was being set up as far back as at least May and it went like clockwork.”


truthuncensored.net...



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 09:03 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI
Unconfirmed anonymous source, so take it worth a gran of salt:

“We [Charlotesville police] were ordered to bring the rival groups together. As soon as they were in contact with each other, we were told to stand down. It was outrageous. We weren’t allowed to arrest anyone without asking the mayor first. We weren’t even allowed to stop the driver as he sped away.“ “The event was being set up as far back as at least May and it went like clockwork.”


truthuncensored.net...


I don't believe it.
It links to sites saying fields was antifa in disguise, with providing no proof.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 09:04 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

Yea, it's pretty shady, not going to lie.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 09:04 PM
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and lions should be able to expect to be able to govern their own communities without a bunch of terrorist activists coming into the city from all directions raising hell...

Tyler McGill suffered a stroke on Tuesday, that his doctors say was likely caused blunt force trauma on his neck. His friends say that a neo-nazi beat him with a flaming tiki tourch. He was an employee of UVa.
www.chronicle.com...

The two women who were in one of the cars involved in the terrorist attack have filed suit against the the organizers of the rally for the injuries they sustained. They were Charlottesville residents.

www.nydailynews.com...

Heather Heyer, 32, killed killed in deadly car attack.. Charlottesville resident.

Natalie Romero, 20, student of UVa, recovering from suffering a skull fracture, bruises all over her body and other injuries, run over by terrorist car attack.
college.usatoday.com...

Marcus Martins, Charlottesville resident, victim of terrorist car attack, currently in wheelchair with leg in caste.
www.foxnews.com...

Deandre Harris, Charlottesville resident, beaten in parking garage.
wavy.com...

I've been looking to find out more about those that were injured during this nightmare,
I've found a few that were not Charlottesville, not really that many.
and none that were from the Unite the Right folks.

Most were from the terrorist car attack..
and most, of what I've found, were the residents of charlottesville...
they didn't "come looking for a fight" as you say, they live there, yous came to them prepared out the arse for battle!

www.charlotteobserver.com...
oh yea, they are glad heather died!!



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 09:35 PM
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Thanks for the shout out.

I am bored and feeling silly, so I want to try something different.

Let me tell you a fairy tale.

The powerful people want to spread a narrative and foster division among the people.

They were worried with the popularity of Bernie and Trump that they may lose their grip.

So their favorite tool to foster division; racism.

Now I am not saying racism doesn't exist, but they need it to be a problem of such a greater magnitude than it really is.

In order for the story to work, there has to be a villain, white supremacy, and a hero, anyone fighting them.

So hero status is put on everyone who fights racism.

Many people of all colors were seeing through this sham. There were all sorts of cracks in the story; the heroes against racism kept calling people that weren't racist, racist.

And more than that, they started to censor, demonize, and physically attack these non racist. But because they were heroes, law enforcement and leaders did basically nothing to them time after time.

And people were getting fed up with it.

Now the media and other groups tried their best to downplay the heroes crimes; they said they had reasons to riot, or that they were only rioting against racist speech from Trump,etc.

But people weren't buying it.

Some people on the heroes side even started killing people, 5 dallas cops killed, steve scalise shot.

And the media and others downplayed this. The decried any attempt to calm down the rhetoric from the heroes side as offensive.

Instead, they condemned ALL violence.

And then, the big catalyst.

See some of the actual vilians (white racist) wanted to exercise their first amendment rights. But leaders said no. Lawyers made these leaders say they had to let the villains speak.

So the leaders came up with a plan. They would leave the villains speak, but they would force them into a confrontation with the heroes, and then blame the entire thing on the villains.

So the police led the villains straight into the crowd of heroes, forcing a confrontation.

And sure enough, the villains (being the scum bags that they are) obliged and got violent. And so did the heroes; both came to do battle and hated the other.

And an innocent girl got killed by a real villain.

Everyone was shocked. The called for the villains heads. The praised the brave heroes that fought them.

But some people asked questions; of course the villains are villains, but were the other side heroes? They were violent, they were the same people attacking innocent people for a years and getting away with it; what if they too were villains, and all of us non violent people were the heroes.

Trump clumsily said this, that all villains, no matter what side, are to be condemned (much as the democrats did with scalise). And for that, hey became the biggest villain of all.

The narrative must not be questioned. If you question the heroes, then you are a villain. The powerful people shouted this stronger than they had done almost anything.

Journalists cried, politicians screamed at Trump as disgusting and vile, business leaders rebuked him.

All for questioning the heroes.

So Trump comes out a second time and says "Wait! I really hate the villains you guys do. I will name those villains, and say the should be condemned"

But the powerful screamed it was too late, he already questioned the heroes.

So Trump spoke again. And the media demanded over and over that he condemn the villains, that he admit the heroes were no where near as bad as them.

And Trump finally lashed back. He said the heroes were violent too. The came armed, they beat people senselessly. And yes he knows the villains were terrible too. He said there were people on the villains side that were not really villains at all, and that some on the heroes side were really great people.

But he asked why the media wouldn't mention the crimes of the heroes.

This was the final straw for the powerful. The sent their people out full blast. Impeach him they yelled, his is disgusting.

The cries were so powerful that to defend Trump would destroy anyones public image. Almost everyone turned their back on him.

Reasonable people that at one point may have questioned the heroes now backed them fully; and they knew anyone who didn't agree with them was a villain.

And thats where the story pauses. Its to be continued.

I have a feeling the next chapter is to separate every single person as either a hero or villain. And then the heroes can finally crush the villains with as much violence as possible.

And it won't be until much blood is spilled that people start to realize that they were played; maybe it wasn't as cut and dry as they were made to believe.

But will it be too late?



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 09:38 PM
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But what caused these core fundamental problems in the first place? That is something that we all need to understand in order to come together and make the necessary changes to quell this culture you speak of.

I have always accepted the idea that the McCarthyism of the 1950s was a bad thing, a witch hunt searching for a boogie man to blame for the changes in the culture of that time. It was something that ruined people's careers, their very lives, because of baseless claims made by people who believed the red menace was lurking in the shadows everywhere they went. A similar attitude may be involved in our present turmoil that seems to be a current clash of cultures. It's the fault of the "alt right" nationalists or it's the fault of the "alt left" liberals depending on what side you may take. But after studying some history and tracing it up to the present, perhaps McCarthy wasn't so far from the mark.


Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963



15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.



19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."



27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.



40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.


There were 45 of these Communist goals that were sited in that Congressional Record from 1963, seems like they have their "useful idiots" well programed in 2017. Most of those goals have been achieved. The idea goes back to the "change from within" plans laid out by Antonio Gramsci and can be traced up to the likes of Saul Alinsky who was a great influence on people like Obama and Clinton.


American workers (proletariat) would never declare war on their middle class neighbors as long as they shared common Christian values. So the Italian communist -- a contemporary of Lenin -- wrote an alternative plan for a silent revolution. The main weapons would be deception, manipulation and infiltration. Hiding their Marxist ideology, the new Communist warriors would seek positions of influence in seminaries, government, communities, and the media.

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edit on 17-8-2017 by MichiganSwampBuck because: typo



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 09:41 PM
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Fine observations Muzzle. While I find a number of points debatable, one point for me at least is indisputable.


we need to take back control of the government and prevent corporations from usurping everything.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 09:41 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI
Unconfirmed anonymous source, so take it worth a gran of salt:

“We [Charlotesville police] were ordered to bring the rival groups together. As soon as they were in contact with each other, we were told to stand down. It was outrageous. We weren’t allowed to arrest anyone without asking the mayor first. We weren’t even allowed to stop the driver as he sped away.“ “The event was being set up as far back as at least May and it went like clockwork.”


truthuncensored.net...


Wow....

I bet it's 100% True too!

This whole thing is like social engineering, but instead of engineering something productive and useful, it's engineering a false crisis and attempting to destroy America.

Those police have no excuse for following unlawful orders.
Shame...they dishonored their badge and their citizenry.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 09:43 PM
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Ive been saying this to people for a while now, the ills of this world all come down to the haves and have nots, the have nots are growing in numbers and getting pretty fed up, the fall out of which we see on the streets. Just like the economic migrants pouring into Europe , they want the money and lifestyle, it annoys me when people simplify it by saying its an invasion they want to make us all muslim.



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