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Symbolic Importance

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posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 08:20 PM
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originally posted by: TiredofControlFreaks
a reply to: Bhadhidar

Do you know the answers or are you simply flailing around trying to find something to complain about? Did you see the statues of buffalo soldiers?

How much have you donated to erect a statue of a black civil war soldier in your local park?



Your method of debate is flawed.

You have not addressed the issue of the OP, you have, instead, attempted to discredit the supposition by submitting references, which merely appear to contradict my premise,

But which, in fact, are completely unrelated.

As an example, your presentation of the Buffalo Soldiers monument as a refutation of the assertion that there is a paucity black and brown heroes represented as Civil war monuments, and that omission might be symptomatic of the motivations embraced by those seeking the removal of statues representing white civil war figures.

As you know, or should know, the Buffalo Soldiers did not even exist until after the civil war.

I have not contributed to the erection of any statue or monument commemorating the civil war in my town, it is true.

But then, I live in California, which was a Free State during the war, but was a bit too far west to have had much involvement.

Nevertheless, although I have not personally advocated for the removal of any memorials, I can empathize with those who find such monuments disturbing.




posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 08:21 PM
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a reply to: chadderson

HEAVY metal headbanger ...NO Hoss later than 80s ,we are called GREY WOLVES and WE held commies at BAY and took out the 4th largest army on the planet in 3 days.
Until Clinton gut the services for his"surplus"



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 08:23 PM
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a reply to: Bhadhidar

How would India act if Shiva statues ,ALL at once became equally unpopular with its younger reflected generation?



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 08:33 PM
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a reply to: Bhadhidar

There's one. It was boarded up today. Story



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 08:34 PM
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a reply to: cavtrooper7

Being neither Hindu nor Indian, I would not assume to speculate.

And the matter would be best left to those concerned to resolve,don't you think?

BTW, your example seems a bit "off topic" to the extent that Shiva represents a deity in the Indian culture.

So, unless you intend to elevate the likes of Robert E. Lee to the level of Jesus Christ in terms of cultural significance, your analogy is

Flawed.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 08:40 PM
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a reply to: Bhadhidar

I have sympathy for the position. If I was African-American I would find it quite difficult to walk past a statue of Robert E. Lee every day. I know that in a lot of ways Lee was a man of honor and was a great general. However, he's symbolic of antebellum South and ALL that it stood for. Again, the South didn't stand just for slavery, but what it stood for included slavery.

I'm of Irish Catholic descent and if there was an Oliver Cromwell statue that I had to see everyday I think it would be quite likely that I would try to damage that statue.

On the other hand, eliminating a statue doesn't eliminate the past. Burying the past only serves to hasten its recurrence.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 08:49 PM
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a reply to: Bhadhidar

WELL I am a veteran for this country the examples of strategy and admiration for duty from the south is remembered and IN ALL other countries besides out own ...ALL of them, history has been changed by Tyrants and kings.
HERE theRNC (Who CREATED American security for predatory banking apparently) can only HIDE it unless they kill a lot of people or pay the DNC.
snowflakes have been hitting 10 commandments and nativity scenes for years HERE in the US we like our history AND are cognizant enough to know WHAT happens if you destroy it.
There are no laws protecting history or the statues ,WE haven't needed them until the socialist assault of the P.C. crap.
There will be as we get Soro's lemmings more incountry.
edit on 17-8-2017 by cavtrooper7 because: (no reason given)




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