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posted on Aug, 24 2017 @ 12:17 PM
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It's also useful to consider the context and the 2nd illustration that is related to it.

Two Illustrations About Vineyards (Jesus​—The Way, the Truth, the Life - Chapter 106)

At the temple, Jesus has just confounded the chief priests and the elders of the people, who challenged him as to the authority by which he is doing things. Jesus’ reply silences them. Then he gives an illustration that exposes what kind of people they really are.
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Jesus follows up that illustration with another. This time, Jesus shows that the religious leaders’ failure goes beyond neglecting to serve God. They are actually wicked. ...
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Will those hearing Jesus understand the illustration? Well, they may remember Isaiah’s words of criticism: “The vineyard of Jehovah of armies is the house of Israel; the men of Judah are the plantation he was fond of. He kept hoping for justice, but look! there was injustice.” (Isaiah 5:7) Jesus’ illustration is similar. The landowner is Jehovah, and the vineyard is the nation of Israel, fenced in and protected by God’s Law. Jehovah sent prophets to instruct his people and help them produce good fruitage.

However, “the cultivators” mistreated and killed the “slaves” sent to them. Jesus explains: “One more [the owner of the vineyard] had, a beloved son. He sent him to them last, saying, ‘They will respect my son.’ But those cultivators said among themselves, ‘This is the heir. Come, let us kill him, and the inheritance will be ours.’ So they took him and killed him.”​—Mark 12:6-8.

Now Jesus asks: “What will the owner of the vineyard do?” (Mark 12:9) The religious leaders answer: “Because they are evil, he will bring a terrible destruction on them and will lease the vineyard to other cultivators, who will give him the fruits when they become due.”​—Matthew 21:41.

They thus unwittingly proclaim judgment upon themselves, for they are among “the cultivators” of Jehovah’s “vineyard,” the nation of Israel. The fruitage that Jehovah rightly expects from such cultivators includes faith in his Son, the Messiah. Jesus looks straight at the religious leaders and says: “Did you never read this scripture: ‘The stone that the builders rejected, this has become the chief cornerstone. This has come from Jehovah, and it is marvelous in our eyes’?” (Mark 12:10, 11) Then Jesus drives home his point: “This is why I say to you, the Kingdom of God will be taken from you and be given to a nation producing its fruits.”​—Matthew 21:43.

The scribes and chief priests recognize that Jesus “told this illustration with them in mind.” (Luke 20:19) ...

Chapter 107 discusses another related illustration.

"...the Kingdom of God will be taken from you and be given to a nation producing its fruits."

Gal 5:22,23
22 On the other hand, the fruitage of the spirit is love, joy, peace, patience,* [Or “long-suffering.”] kindness, goodness, faith, 23 mildness, self-control. Against such things there is no law.


Song 74 The Joy of Jehovah vocals
Song 141 Searching for Friends of Peace (with lyrics)
Song 35 Gratitude for Divine Patience Vocals
Song 77 Be Forgiving vocals
Song 81 Give us more faith vocals
Song 83 We Need Self Control vocals
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posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 12:15 PM
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a reply to: whereislogic

yeah I see you will use any Bible to prove your point. But the preserved Bible Identifies before that section of scriptures and the one that follows as Parables which separates the one in the middle for it was not. Follow proper English Grammar as foudn inteh preserved word of God and you may learn something new, for yourself anyway.

You are just repeating Watchtower nonsense that I have heard fro JW's over the last 25 years.



posted on Aug, 25 2017 @ 12:18 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: lizardghost

Could be. The bible is very confusing and the main stay of quotes from it are usually not used in the correct context. Like turn the other cheek and no room in the inn.


"Turn the other cheek" is what believers are supposed to do", and "no room at the Inn" is what the non-believers did. Not confusing or out of context at all.



posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 12:20 PM
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a reply to: TruthJava

Turn the other cheek in context was a teaching preparing ISRAEL, the Jews for the promised kingdom, also known as the kingdom of heaven, which is an earthly kingdom promise made to David which was said to be forever. But they killed the king and when he rose again, Jesus knew there were other sheep that were not of that fold that must have the word spoken too and that was of the Gentiles.

The verse for all men, Jew or Gentile is this

Roms 12:18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.
It literally means that as long as men live peaceably with you you do the same. But if they don't it doesn't mean you turn the other cheek and just let them kill you and rape you wife and daughters. It gives you the right to protect yourself, your family and your goods because that person or persons are not living peaceably with you so you are forced into a position where you must fight and it is beyond your power to live peaceably with these men.



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posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 12:45 PM
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a reply to: lizardghost
go to a bible website to discuss. not ats.



posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 01:02 PM
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I remember some of the non mandela affected verses in the old world bible. Someone created a huge paradox that changed the bible.



posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 01:07 PM
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a reply to: richapau

just go to another ATS thread if you do not like what is being discussed. ATS created this thread section just for this purpose.



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