Spotify Banning Neo Nazi Music

a reply to: Abysha

Why? Explain why what I said is not true. Explain how a private business choosing what they offer is "suppression" or "prohibition".

Unless you want to just keep calling people stupid. If so, have at it. I'm not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree which is why this should be all the more embarrassing for you to not understand.

I apologize for that. I know you're not stupid. The argument is, however. The songs, or "product", were removed and banned for political reasons, not because they wanted to switch up their inventory.

Corporate censorship is censorship by corporations, the sanctioning of speech by spokespersons, employees, and business associates by threat of monetary loss, loss of employment, or loss of access to the marketplace.

Corporate Censorship

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: ScepticScot

What?

Censorship of music refers to the practice of editing of musical works for various reasons, stemming from a wide variety of motivations, including moral, political, or religious reasons. Censorship can range from the complete government-enforced legal prohibition of a musical work, to private, voluntary removal of content when a musical work appears in a certain context.

Music Censorship

Wait a minute. I thought according to you referring to dictionaries meant you didn't understand your own argument, yet Wikipedia is ok?

a reply to: ScepticScot

Wait a minute. I thought according to you referring to dictionaries meant you didn't understand your own argument, yet Wikipedia is ok?

Apparently it's the only language you guys speak.

a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Ok let's take censorship to the nth degree.

I would like to post my opinions under your username. What's your ATS password so I can do so.

a reply to: ScepticScot

Ok let's take censorship to the nth degree.

I would like to post my opinions under your username. What's your ATS password so I can do so.

But wait I'm not the government. I simply refuse to sell your product.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: ScepticScot

Ok let's take censorship to the nth degree.

I would like to post my opinions under your username. What's your ATS password so I can do so.

But wait I'm not the government. I simply refuse to sell your product.

As you said earlier. What's the difference?

a reply to: ScepticScot

As you said earlier. What's the difference?

My password is scepticscotdoesntknowwhatcensorshipis.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: ScepticScot

As you said earlier. What's the difference?

My password is scepticscotdoesntknowwhatcensorshipis.

Tried it. Not working.

(Applies lesmis logic) Clear censorship.

Was there even Neo Nazi bands on Spotify to begin with?

a reply to: ScepticScot

Tried it. Not working.

(Applies lesmis logic) Clear censorship.

I was wrong about the stupidest argument earlier. This one takes the cake.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: ScepticScot

Tried it. Not working.

(Applies lesmis logic) Clear censorship.

I was wrong about the stupidest argument earlier. This one takes the cake.

Yes that is kind of the point.

a reply to: ScepticScot

Yes that is kind of the point.

If your point is to make stupid arguments, why bother?

a reply to: Konduit

Spotify's T&C lists the usual "incites violence, offensive, abusive, blah blah blah" as things that aren't supposed to be posted to it.

Also says they may review anything, at any time, or may not review it, and may remove anything they want to remove at any time, for any reason at all, and for no reason at all.

ETA - I coulda sworn I saw something in your comment about skinhead bands violating T&C. Apparently I just had a vision

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: ScepticScot

Yes that is kind of the point.

If your point is to make stupid arguments, why bother?

The argument that choosing what you will allow to happen on your own platform (or login) is censorship is stupid.

Who was making that argument again?

a reply to: ScepticScot

The argument that choosing what you will allow to happen on your own platform (or login) is censorship is stupid.

Who was making that argument again?

You're saying my ATS account is a platform for you to post upon?

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: ScepticScot

The argument that choosing what you will allow to happen on your own platform (or login) is censorship is stupid.

Who was making that argument again?

You're saying my ATS account is a platform for you to post upon?

No it's yours (well on loan from ATS) just as Spotify platform is theirs.

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: Konduit

Spotify's T&C lists the usual "incites violence, offensive, abusive, blah blah blah" as things that aren't supposed to be posted to it.

Also says they may review anything, at any time, or may not review it, and may remove anything they want to remove at any time, for any reason at all, and for no reason at all.

Fabulous. In this case, however, they publicly said they removed the Neo-Nazi material for a reason: because they do not 'tolerate' the messages behind it.

Therefore, I can only assume that Spotify tolerates the despicable, offensive, violent misogyny coming from certain rap artists. Some of which, btw, is aimed specifically at white women (like Kanye West).

Rape, murder..women are nothing but *insert misogynistic term here.*

Spotify is just nodding and following an agenda like they have an ethical backbone to stand up for *what's right.*

Nope. They just stand up for what's popular or they are cowering in fear. They have no ethical backbone.

I hear their message loud & clear. Racism/White Supremacy is bad, but misogyny, violence, and racial violence against women are wonderful messages they are happy to spread.

a reply to: ScepticScot

No it's yours (well on loan from ATS) just as Spotify platform is theirs.

I'll let you dig yourself out of this hole here. Use ATS or some actual platform as an analogous example, then apply that "logic".

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: ScepticScot

No it's yours (well on loan from ATS) just as Spotify platform is theirs.

I'll let you dig yourself out of this hole here. Use ATS or some actual platform as an analogous example, then apply that "logic".

The logic is that private platforms can censure their own content. Self censorship is completely different from legal censorship.