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When Trump Says, Is Washington Next ?

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posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 10:00 AM
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originally posted by: Hefficide
a reply to: LesMisanthrope



That seems more accurate.




posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 10:00 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

It's sad that a poem that was written to combat and stand up against fascism is being repurposed to defend fascism.
But pretty typical. That just means that the propaganda machine is running out of ideas. They don't get that the original stands alone in its power.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 10:00 AM
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originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: Shamrock6

False equivalence


Hey, neat. Just like everyone's opinion of fascism vs the word Nazi.

American's don't like Fascists, because the Nazi's. When they hear Fascist, they misassociate for the word 'Nazi' every time.

Liberals are Fascists, Conservatives embrace Fascism in their efforts to 'combat Fascism'.

The US is a ticking time-bomb for fascism, most of our culture even revolves around it. "United We Stand" is a good general expression for what fascism is. We just have politically backwards ideology on top of it, for example "Land of the Free" is almost slightly contradictory of "United we Stand", like band-aides on a fascist style Government.

Most of them aren't complete 'Nazi' yet though so the alarms aren't ringing. If a third parties get off the ground the crisis can easily be averted. Hopefully a Right v Left v Green v Tech will be the stepping stone 4 race.
edit on 17-8-2017 by SoDumb because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 10:01 AM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

It's sad that a poem that was written to combat and stand up against fascism is being repurposed to defend fascism.


Somebody on another thread used a holocaust survivor's poem about fascism ("first they came for...") to defend white nationalists.

Yep. That's what's going on here too.


A straw man. No one here is defending fascism.


All I'm trying to do is defend free speech.

Who knew it would be so damned difficult.




posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 10:02 AM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
It's true, if the communists have their way America will be one big padded cell. It won't be evil anymore because the history will be fundamentally erased.


And if the laissez faire Ayn Rand capitalists get there way we will have wealth inequality at all time highs, middle class poverty wages, corporate owned prison labor camps, and out-of-control military spending. Oh wait, that's what we have now.


Far better than communism.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 10:04 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

I do value free speech. I just value humans more. It's astonishing how you think you can defend the suppression of big parts of the population just by saying "free speech".
You know Blacks & Hispanics are still treated as second class citizens? The whole Zimmermann nightmare and police violence again and again have proven that. You defend killing people because you feel your rights are in danger? How do those who have less rights in front of the law enforcement the power to threaten your right of free speech?



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 10:04 AM
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Anyone notice the anti nazi/white supremacist rhetoric on this site and elsewhere ?

The anti's would have no problems with waterboarding/sending 'nazi's to Gitmo or inter them in camps and out right extermination.

They sing a different tune when it comes to Islamo fascists(That's terrorists for the cognitive dissonant bunch)

They're just misunderstood.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 10:04 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

It's sad that a poem that was written to combat and stand up against fascism is being repurposed to defend fascism.


Somebody on another thread used a holocaust survivor's poem about fascism ("first they came for...") to defend white nationalists.

Yep. That's what's going on here too.


A straw man. No one here is defending fascism.


All I'm trying to do is defend free speech.

Who knew it would be so damned difficult.



As long as they keep up the fantasy that everyone is a fascist, it justifies their actions, no matter how evil.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 10:06 AM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

It's sad that a poem that was written to combat and stand up against fascism is being repurposed to defend fascism.


Somebody on another thread used a holocaust survivor's poem about fascism ("first they came for...") to defend white nationalists.

Yep. That's what's going on here too.


A straw man. No one here is defending fascism.


All I'm trying to do is defend free speech.

Who knew it would be so damned difficult.



As long as they keep up the fantasy that everyone is a fascist, it justifies their actions, no matter how evil.




Everyone should IGNORE the FACT the 'majority' voted for Clinton.

And yet white supremacy is a problem endemic in America.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 10:06 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
Anyone notice the anti nazi/white supremacist rhetoric on this site and elsewhere ?



That may honestly be the most mind-numbing thing I have ever read. Ever.

Outside of 1930's Germany and an active Klan rally the entire damned world is anti Nazi / white supremacist.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 10:08 AM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

It's sad that a poem that was written to combat and stand up against fascism is being repurposed to defend fascism.


Somebody on another thread used a holocaust survivor's poem about fascism ("first they came for...") to defend white nationalists.

Yep. That's what's going on here too.


A straw man. No one here is defending fascism.

And this thread is a slippery slope fallacy, but I don't see you calling the OP on that.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 10:09 AM
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a reply to: neo96

I think you are being dramatic.

Trump is not a Nazi and neither are his supporters.

Now some of his supporters may be neo-Nazis, but still not Nazis.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 10:09 AM
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a reply to: Hefficide

Outside of Germany in the 30's/40s there are no NAZI's.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 10:10 AM
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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: DBCowboy

I do value free speech. I just value humans more. It's astonishing how you think you can defend the suppression of big parts of the population just by saying "free speech".
You know Blacks & Hispanics are still treated as second class citizens? The whole Zimmermann nightmare and police violence again and again have proven that. You defend killing people because you feel your rights are in danger? How do those who have less rights in front of the law enforcement the power to threaten your right of free speech?


This is where you are completely wrong on so many levels, I honestly can't tell if you're trolling.

I am simply defending the right to expression.

I am not defending the content of the speech.
I am not defending criminal actions.


I am defending the right for ANYONE to have the freedom to express opinion.

There is no obligation to listen, so don't listen.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 10:11 AM
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a reply to: neo96

National Socialist Movement, Vanguard America, Traditional Worker Party



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 10:12 AM
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a reply to: Abysha

I'm actually convinced we've entered Bizarro World.
edit on 17-8-2017 by Krazysh0t because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 10:13 AM
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originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: neo96

National Socialist Movement, Vanguard America, Traditional Worker Party


Posers but not a nazi.

National socialist Workers Party- GERMAN.

The term NAZI as it is used today is meant to insult anyone that disagrees with leftist ideology.

The actually number of white supremacists in the United States has next to NO political power.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 10:13 AM
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a reply to: Blue_Jay33

All monuments erected after the abolition of slavery should be targeted for removal because those who erected them were being obstinate little snowflakes in the face of the fact they lost a war over whether not to abolish slavery.

I know some people are going to throw up the fact that the civil war wasn't about slavery...

...I don't F care...



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 10:14 AM
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a reply to: neo96

The Clintons are racists



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 10:14 AM
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originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
He has a point, that slippery slope has no boundaries for the Alt-left



First they came for the confederate flags and I did not speak out. Then they came for the statues and I did not speak out. Then they came for the founding fathers and I did not speak out. Then they came for the Constitution and I did not speak out. Then they came for me and I did not speak out because I did not have the freedom of speech and the freedom to bear arms.




Here is the slippery slope...What exactly do those Statues commemorate that has you wanting them left up?



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