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When Trump Says, Is Washington Next ?

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posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 09:38 AM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

False equivalence




posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 09:38 AM
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originally posted by: Peeple

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

It's sad that a poem that was written to combat and stand up against fascism is being repurposed to defend fascism.


It's been used to defend free speech and free expression.

It is truly fascinating to see the people who do not value it.


Bs it's written to protect humans. Using it and perverting it like that shows you value things and ideas more than human lifes. Killing and hurting for memes is wrong. But it's what the deluded right does and always did.


I value the very concept of free speech, free expression.

It is clear now that many don't. You don't.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 09:40 AM
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a reply to: neo96

You do know we are against all political parties right? I mean, you have obviously done your research and not just repeating false blanket statement facts, you are against fake news afterall



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 09:42 AM
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originally posted by: introvert


I believe only one American has ever been held at gitmo.



That's the whole problem. You believe.

The government doesn't have to tell anyone "who" they are holding there.

With the old system, we' know who was arrested, what they were being accused of, and the public had the right to sit in court and see for themselves, how the rights of the citizen was being upheld.

When everything is done in secret, all rights are lost.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 09:42 AM
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originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

It's sad that a poem that was written to combat and stand up against fascism is being repurposed to defend fascism.


Somebody on another thread used a holocaust survivor's poem about fascism ("first they came for...") to defend white nationalists.

Yep. That's what's going on here too.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 09:46 AM
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a reply to: neo96

Yup. Stupid damned liberals not even being smart enough to understand that if you call a hoard of Swastika waving, "blood and soil" chanting white supremacists "Nazis" you're falling into the trap of Godwins Law.

You do understand that Godwins Law is comparing innocuous things to Nazis in a hyperbolic manner and it doesn't actually apply when one is actually discussing avowed, real Nazis. Right?

Or did I miss a memo and remain unaware that the Swastika has been grandfathered into the whole "But it's about Southern culture and pride" thing?



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 09:48 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

It's sad that a poem that was written to combat and stand up against fascism is being repurposed to defend fascism.



Martin Niemöller (1892–1984) was a prominent Protestant pastor who emerged as an outspoken public foe of Adolf Hitler and spent the last seven years of Nazi rule in concentration camps.
Niemöller is perhaps best remembered for the quotation:

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Holocaust Encyclopedia



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 09:48 AM
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It's true, if the communists have their way America will be one big padded cell. It won't be evil anymore because the history will be fundamentally erased.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 09:51 AM
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a reply to: Hefficide




You do understand that Godwins Law is comparing innocuous things to Nazis in a hyperbolic manner and it doesn't actually apply when one is actually discussing avowed, real Nazis. Right?


I'd like to know where all those 'bad' nazi's have been for the last 20 years.

They just suddenly materialized out of thin air.

Bcecause NO ONE was whining about the under GW and Obama.

Hell even Clinton for that fact.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 09:52 AM
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a reply to: AMPTAH



That's the whole problem. You believe.


I used that word because I was not 100% sure.



The government doesn't have to tell anyone "who" they are holding there.


Yes, they do. The DoD releases that info.



With the old system, we' know who was arrested, what they were being accused of, and the public had the right to sit in court and see for themselves, how the rights of the citizen was being upheld.


That's still how it's done.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 09:52 AM
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originally posted by: Hefficide
a reply to: neo96

Yup. Stupid damned liberals not even being smart enough to understand that if you call a hoard of Swastika waving, "blood and soil" chanting white supremacists "Nazis" you're falling into the trap of Godwins Law.

You do understand that Godwins Law is comparing innocuous things to Nazis in a hyperbolic manner and it doesn't actually apply when one is actually discussing avowed, real Nazis. Right?

Or did I miss a memo and remain unaware that the Swastika has been grandfathered into the whole "But it's about Southern culture and pride" thing?


A nazi is a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party, which doesn't exist anymore.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 09:54 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

It's sad that a poem that was written to combat and stand up against fascism is being repurposed to defend fascism.


Somebody on another thread used a holocaust survivor's poem about fascism ("first they came for...") to defend white nationalists.

Yep. That's what's going on here too.


A straw man. No one here is defending fascism.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 09:55 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

It's sad that a poem that was written to combat and stand up against fascism is being repurposed to defend fascism.


Somebody on another thread used a holocaust survivor's poem about fascism ("first they came for...") to defend white nationalists.

Yep. That's what's going on here too.


Lol, I didn't read their external text block in the OP. I'll be damned, that's the second time, then.

I come here to get my daily dose of irony but that's too much. Maybe it's a hipster thing and they're all just trolling us?



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 09:55 AM
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originally posted by: introvert
They are not going to be able to take away the constitution or any of the rights we have.


Which group, antifa or the white supremacists?

I guess it depends on if you are member of one of the groups the white supremacists are targeting.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 09:56 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Hefficide




You do understand that Godwins Law is comparing innocuous things to Nazis in a hyperbolic manner and it doesn't actually apply when one is actually discussing avowed, real Nazis. Right?


I'd like to know where all those 'bad' nazi's have been for the last 20 years.

They just suddenly materialized out of thin air.

Bcecause NO ONE was whining about the under GW and Obama.

Hell even Clinton for that fact.


They've been keeping to themselves.

But after Trump came in to the picture, they were emboldened, I guess.

I remember reading that the guy who runs the Stormfront website said they had to upgrade their systems because of the increased traffic on the site after Trump came around.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 09:56 AM
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a reply to: XAnarchistX

Not really, since what I said doesn't oppose what you said. That's sort of the crux of a false equivalence.

I just added another example of things it's silly to be afraid of.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 09:57 AM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: introvert
They are not going to be able to take away the constitution or any of the rights we have.


Which group, antifa or the white supremacists?

I guess it depends on if you are member of one of the groups the white supremacists are targeting.


Apparently the OP is concerned about the "alt-Left" taking away our rights.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 09:57 AM
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posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 09:58 AM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
It's true, if the communists have their way America will be one big padded cell. It won't be evil anymore because the history will be fundamentally erased.


And if the laissez faire Ayn Rand capitalists get there way we will have wealth inequality at all time highs, middle class poverty wages, corporate owned prison labor camps, and out-of-control military spending. Oh wait, that's what we have now.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 10:00 AM
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a reply to: introvert

Actually LEO has been doing their jobs.

It's not up to the antifascists to do LAW ENFORCEMENT WORK.

Because they've ALWAYS been around.

The only thing that's changed was the election of Trump.

That was a left winger before he and his supporters started to get called 'nazi'.



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