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The irony of a civil war breaking out over civil war statues

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posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 08:36 PM
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My opinion is that the elite will capitalize on any event in a way that serves them. So what we know for sure is that the current narrative of division between white people and alleged minorities is being taken advantage of by the MSM and the other culture creators.



God Knowledge and Wisdom



Create a problem
Terrorism, financial crisis, etc.
Manufacture a reaction
Let the mainstream media only broadcast/print the side of the problem you want to show
Provide a solution
wars, corporate tax-cuts, welfare budget cuts, etc.


Here we are witnessing the problem, reaction, solution architecture playing itself out live. The divide is growing stronger as they bring about a civil over the civil war. Ironic huh?

Left vs Right brain thinking (TRIGGER WARNING)



For example, a person who is "left-brained" is often said to be more logical, analytical, and objective.

A person who is "right-brained" is said to be more intuitive, thoughtful, and subjective.


What we are seeing now with the left vs right (if you notice leftist ideology is actually right brain thinking interesting coincidence isn't it?) or emotional intelligence vs intellectual intelligence is the playing one off of the other to control the narrative with the end game of bringing us to civil war.

If you are a communist(liberal) you are under attack by the media as they work to play on your empathy and emotional instincts. They know the left brain or logical thinkers will react negatively towards this due to their more intellectual and less intuitive approach.

Balance is key




"It is clear that human reason alone cannot succeed in achieving a world of peace and harmony. This is because original human nature is not based on intellect alone, but should have a balance between intellect, emotion, and will"


Einstein hit's the nail on the head here. Instead of proving you are right let go of your ego and insecurity and try to understand the opposing philosophy. Rather than rejecting the philosophy of the other side see if you can find a balance between the 2 ideologies and employ some logic and some emotion/ intuition.

Stop allowing the media to control you and to control the narrative, come together and stop waving your team banners and allowing the elite Henry Kissinger types foment a civil war to thin the heard.



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posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 08:41 PM
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Not going to happen . Unlike some loons , the South has put it behind us and let it be. Georgia, without intimidation , voluntarily changed our State Flag a long , long time ago...
But , with that said , dont bring the ANTI-Fa or Neo-Nazi bullsh** down here. Keep it up North . We dont "cotton too well" to that sort of perverted sh** .No one. Especially the authorities .

ETA - the State of Georgia asked people to submit their design for the new flag. The top picks were then put up for a State wide popular vote.

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posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 08:42 PM
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posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 08:48 PM
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I don't think this will be the thing that pushes us into a civil war. The supremacists, nationalists, proper neo-nazis, idiots that think they're actual nazis, "good ol boys" (girls too, let's not be sexist), and generally racist bigots are still a minority. At times vocal, sure, but sill not enough people to push a mobilization for civil war.

The same can be said about those that stand against the above listed groups. Just a small fraction of the populace.

I haven't done enough research to say I believe this 100%, but I don't believe there have been many (if any) legitimate uprisings without the push from either other governments or networks of seriously influential people. But there's been a lot of wars in the past and I haven't researched them all, far from it. But most seem to have been supported by outside forces in some way.

That's not to say we're not being set up by outside forces. Other countries have been engaged in social warfare for a long time here. Same as we do elsewhere in the world. But I don't think that effort is ready to go into fruition yet. Maybe never will.

All that said, we're overdue for a real change in some way. We're on par with Rome. Will we fall like Rome, with our Senate corrupt, power hungry and out for themselves instead of the people? I think we might. Eventually but not yet.
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posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 08:51 PM
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a reply to: Noncents

Yes but it is the underpinning of a much larger social paradigm and it's currently controlling the narrative.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 08:58 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

Hegel has been one of my major courses of study this summer.



That is a photo of my desk a few weeks ago.

The other book in the background is "A Child of Fortune" which is about the founding of the US and our legal system.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 08:59 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults
That's true but social paradigms sway through time, swinging back and forth. Typically without governmental interruption. As a nation, we can survive the changing of popular social mores.

It's when "they" start trying to change the way the system works that we need to perk up. When they try to move away from Democracy and install something else that they want instead.

Representational democracy has it's flaws but socialism, communism or anarchy are a far sight worse for everybody. We just have to make sure that doesn't happen. Social issues might the spearpoint used but, even like the last civil war, other governmental issues must also be a factor. And, mostly, right now that's not a serious enough thing to be concerned with.

Hopefully.
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posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:02 PM
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We do not need a civil war. The establishment only wants the appearance of such in order to distract us all from the fact World War 3 IS and has been going on since 2009 as the empires of West and East compete for the global influence in the 21st century. Philippines, North Korea, EU, Syria, Yemen, Libya, Venezuela and many others are all battle grounds for which empire get what vassals/allies through the 21st century.

There is also the impending economic cataclysm that approaches for the western financial system, obviously its consequences will be global.

So while the left hand casts a fake stage produced race war in the states for the domestic audience, the right hand is desperately trying to maintain its dominant position as the global empire.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:02 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

Oh but that wiki is partly off context though.

It says "Problem Reaction Solution (Latin: Ordo ab Chao) is a mass mind control system."

Yes it's true that the dialectic is used to manipulate everyone, and in a way it's false chaos that they create a new order out of, but 'Ordo ab Chao' in Latin is properly translated as "Order from Chaos" and can be applied to far more than crowd control. Like biology or astronomy.

In Latin it's probably more like "Solutio quaestionem reactionem".
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posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:05 PM
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a reply to: worldstarcountry

Good point.




We do not need a civil war. The establishment only wants the appearance of such in order to distract us all from the fact World War 3 IS and has been going on since 2009 as the empires of West and East compete for the global influence in the 21st century. Philippines, North Korea, EU, Syria, Yemen, Libya, Venezuela and many others are all battle grounds for which empire get what vassals/allies through the 21st century.


I agree we have been in ww3 for some time now but it is not portrayed as such.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:06 PM
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originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: Noncents
We do not need a civil war. The establishment only wants the appearance of such in order to distract us all from the fact World War 3 IS and has been going on since 2009 as the empires of West and East compete for the global influence in the 21st century.


Correction - since Sept 11th 2001.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:09 PM
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Interesting ideas.

The "empires of West and East" are both part of the UN. If they're part of the UN then, overall, they've agreed to be on the same team.

Who is fighting the UN for dominance?



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:23 PM
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We can get along, or you can get along.
I like keeping it simple.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:33 PM
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a reply to: Noncents
There have been ongoing discussions both public and private for a change to the UN structure to make it so that the 5 perm sec. council members do not have the final say over world matters. Of course that is not a healthy discussion to have on MSM, and therefore is ignored.

They do not play on the same team, they just sit in the meetings and negotiate over who gets what depending on how the ground battles and financial legislation plays out in the contested markets . Syria South of the Euphrates did not work out for NATO, which is where you see NATO pretty much abandon their stakes there and yield to the Russia/Iran bloc. But they managed to gain everything North of Syria for Rojava, much to Turkey's consternation.

Irrespective of an official mandate, 27 of 28 NATO states are participating in Operation Inherent Resolve, of which is mostly focused on Syria and Iraq with a handful of missions in Somalia with AMISOM, Libya, Yemen and soon the Philippines.

People say its not a world war because they believe only aa handful of players are involved. But under the banner of JSFOIR there are about 60 nations contributing. Then we add in the AMISOM member states we are past 70. Then when we add the nations contributing to the Russian/China bloc to counter the operations of those we are up to nearly a hundred. Add in the Gulf Cooperation councils, as well as the mercenaries they have imported from Africa and Latin America for the Yemen op, we are just over one hundred nations participating in conflicts that are all interconnected with each other. We are talking nearly half he worlds nations currently, today, contributing to global operations under one coalition or another confronting each other in specific theaters similar to the first two world wars.

We have had WMD's deployed as chemical weapons in the middle east as well as possible neutron or tac nuke detonation in Yemen, and the potential and spoken threats of nuclear exchanges in the Pacific. Ethnic cleansing in genocide by ISIS, entire societies razed to the ground .... it is clear we are parallel in most ways to the prior 2 great wars. Technology improvements and evolved battle doctrine simply reduce the scale of death, but it is still quite large.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:38 PM
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well let's hope it doesn't come to civil war. that stuff is so passe.




posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:45 PM
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originally posted by: Gothmog
Not going to happen . Unlike some loons , the South has put it behind us and let it be. Georgia, without intimidation , voluntarily changed our State Flag a long , long time ago...
But , with that said , dont bring the ANTI-Fa or Neo-Nazi bullsh** down here. Keep it up North . We dont "cotton too well" to that sort of perverted sh** .No one. Especially the authorities .

ETA - the State of Georgia asked people to submit their design for the new flag. The top picks were then put up for a State wide popular vote.
yessir. I've lived in southeast Georgia for 33 years now, and I can attest. All my life here, I've never known a racist person from of any persuasion. Maybe coz I don't look for them or attract them.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:53 PM
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a reply to: MantheDevilsApe

there is a racist behind every blade of grass and rock hiding there waiting to oppress black people in Nazi regalia



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:56 PM
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if another civil war actually happened.. the left would be the losing side

everyday they give more reason for people to hate them



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 10:06 PM
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a reply to: worldstarcountry
I agree with you that there are many countries at war with each other to the point that it could be called WW3. I didn't know it was so many though, jeez.

I don't follow the international war updates as much as I should. Do you know a really good thread or article somewhere that really puts it all, at a current timeframe, into perspective? Something good that sort of expands on what you're saying and preferably not overly biased or skewed?I would like to learn more about that.

Let me see if I'm following you here. You're saying the US government wants us to have the illusion of civil war as a distraction from the real WW3 and upcoming financial collapse because we're trying to dominate the world?

Why though? Why create the illusion of civil war that could potentially lead to a real war just to misdirect the public about financial woes and world dominance? I think most people would be cool with gaining the upper hand in the world, every country wants to be the head honcho and most people understand we've been financially jacked up for too long.

Not trying to be argumentative or obtuse, genuinely interested.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 10:08 PM
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originally posted by: MantheDevilsApe

originally posted by: Gothmog
Not going to happen . Unlike some loons , the South has put it behind us and let it be. Georgia, without intimidation , voluntarily changed our State Flag a long , long time ago...
But , with that said , dont bring the ANTI-Fa or Neo-Nazi bullsh** down here. Keep it up North . We dont "cotton too well" to that sort of perverted sh** .No one. Especially the authorities .

ETA - the State of Georgia asked people to submit their design for the new flag. The top picks were then put up for a State wide popular vote.
yessir. I've lived in southeast Georgia for 33 years now, and I can attest. All my life here, I've never known a racist person from of any persuasion. Maybe coz I don't look for them or attract them.
And I've worked in kitchens most of my life with people of every race and don't ever remember any B.S. racial beef. Sometimes I would be the only white dude on the shift, and even while we were getting ran over by the rape train at work, we all had a good time. Maybe bcoz when you stand, and work, and sweat, and live shoulder to shoulder with someone, like being in kitchen for 12 or 13 hours, y'all understand each other and share a struggle and a common goal. Maybe all those a-holes fighting in Virginia should get a damn joblike the rest of us. They might feel better about themselves.



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