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Iceland is 'eradicating' (murdering) Down Syndrome

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posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 12:20 PM
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Patricia Heaton is pro life.

That makes her a Nazi (strange as it seems).

She should be careful. She might get stabbed for being a Nazi.




posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 12:27 PM
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a reply to: silo13
You sound like exactly the kind of person who will say "how dare you abort a zygote!" but then also say "taxes shouldn't pay for your poor decision!"

Fact is, disabled children require much more support than average.

Also, try not being alarmist about everything:

Olafsdottir responded, "We don't look at abortion as a murder. We look at it as a thing that we ended. We ended a possible life that may have had a huge complication... preventing suffering for the child and for the family. And I think that is more right than seeing it as a murder -- that's so black and white. Life isn't black and white. Life is grey."



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 12:30 PM
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Defective genes, though.
Shouldn't this be the goal? To clean up our race enough to give us a chance of surviving the future?



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 12:32 PM
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Well, I'll give. You didn't directly post statistcs, but you likened this to killing off "half the population" - like Hitler.

And you take what I said out of context. The part where "it limits your ability to live your own life" was followed by "so you cannot provide love and care for your child." Not many people cope well with raising a downs child. I'ts heartbreaking to see how many of them are just left at institutions due to parents who are not up to it. I as a human, would rather die than rot away at an institution. I have seen people give it all they got for many years. Most (not all) give up because of the extreme difficulty of taking care of someone that is that handicapped. I know this ain't exactly what is right, but its often the resault non the less.

And you sir, really come off as an opinionated [snip] yourself.

"peace"


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posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 12:34 PM
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a reply to: silo13
Why kill the parents? If I am correct Switzerland has been running its program for a few decades. All they do is before you're allowed to marry you must show that there are no genetic defects in your lineage. If you have they wont give you the licence to get married.

Yes, yes you can have children without getting married but in Switzerland it's a big no, no.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 12:44 PM
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But there are whole societies in Europe that want to prevent people with Down's Syndrome from being born.

They hate people with Down's Syndrome so much that they don't want any of them in the population.

But if a person said that they didn't want someone with Down's Syndrome sitting next to them of a bus..... OH!



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 12:46 PM
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And here we are in another one of those bizarro threads where the right is all for big government and state control of our own bodies.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 01:04 PM
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a reply to: butcherguy


not murdering, sweetness.

choosing to terminate in this scenario is an incredibly hard decision!

with a lot of genetic syndromes the children live in pain, serious pain. I know this first hand because my son was born with trisomy 18 (a more serious syndrome than down.) he passed away a few years ago at 23. he never spoke but i'm know he lived in pain, and I still feel quilt.. I am grateful for every second I had with him and I wish he was still with me, but I will never demonize someone for choosing to terminate. and, parents who decide to go to term have my upmost respect, as well.

these are very hard decisions for the parents and to call it murder is just awful, disgusting op.


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posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 01:05 PM
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a reply to: butcherguy


no one hates children with down syndrome - good god, what a puss you are.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 02:25 PM
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originally posted by: knoxie
a reply to: butcherguy


no one hates children with down syndrome - good god, what a puss you are.


I know, seems they just love Down's Syndrome children to death!




posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 03:17 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko


Abortion on demand is legal. I'm asking you, and the OP, if you think it should be illegal. If it should be illegal for a woman who wanted a child, but then finds out that her developing fetus has downs syndrome, to opt to abort, then what do we do about women who are aborting healthy fetuses on demand?

Why single out women whose fetuses are diseased for forced birth? Why start there?



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posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 03:35 PM
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originally posted by: okrian
And here we are in another one of those bizarro threads where the right is all for big government and state control of our own bodies.


You want the government to stay out of your vagina, but also want the government to pay to take of it, and what comes out of it?



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 03:40 PM
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Looks like Hitler won, in the long run.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 03:47 PM
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en.wikipedia.org...

The ideology of the Nazis was based on social Darwinism that held unreservedly to the notion of the survival of the fittest, at both the level of the individual as well as the level of entire peoples and states. This notion claimed to have natural law on its side. All opposing religious and humanitarian views would ultimately prove to be unnatural. A people could only prove its worth in the long run in this ongoing "struggle for survival", if they promoted the best and, if necessary, eliminated those that weakened them. Moreover, only a people as racially pure as possible could maintain the "struggle for existence". To maintain or improve the Nordic-Germanic race, therefore, the laws of eugenics or the (biologistically oriented) "racial hygiene" would have to be strictly observed, that is, the promotion of the "genetically healthy" and the elimination of the "sick". All those with hereditary illnesses or who were severely mentally and physically handicapped were classified as "lives unworthy of life" (lebensunwertes Leben). They would, in terms of natural selection, be "eliminated". This form of eugenics was eventually the basis of the National Socialist genetic health policy which was elevated to the rank of state doctrine. In 1929 Hitler said at the Nazi Party Conference in Nuremberg, "that an average annual removal of 700,000-800,000 of the weakest of a million babies meant an increase in the power of the nation and not a weakening".[1] In doing so, he was able to draw upon scientific argument that transferred the Darwinian theory of natural selection to human beings and, through the concept of racial hygiene, formulated the "Utopia" of "human selection" as propounded by Alfred Ploetz, the founder of German racial hygiene. As early as 1895, he demanded that human offspring should not:


Yet the same anti Nazi and white supremacist denounce life and follow Nazi ideologies.

There must be a glitch in the matrix.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 03:58 PM
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In the eyes of God all murders of his children are wrong, and those responsible will be held accountable at some point in this life or the life after.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 04:22 PM
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originally posted by: silo13

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: silo13


Let me guess. You want to make illegal for women to abort when they find out their fetus suffers from a possibly survivable disease?


Wow you're a smart one this morning!

Yes!

peace


I am curious of your gender? And why you think this is murder? Oh and your stance on the death penalty if you'd be so kind to let me know.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 04:23 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
In the eyes of God all murders of his children are wrong, and those responsible will be held accountable at some point in this life or the life after.


They dont seem to understand, these alt lefties, that they Imbrace some Nazi ideologies themselves.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 04:32 PM
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originally posted by: Stormdancer777

originally posted by: carewemust
In the eyes of God all murders of his children are wrong, and those responsible will be held accountable at some point in this life or the life after.


They dont seem to understand, these alt lefties, that they Imbrace some Nazi ideologies themselves.


I don't like where your couch is sitting let me move it for you...oh and while we are at it stop drinking soda or beer or anything I might disagree with you drinking. And don't let me start if you're overweight...

Not all of us are alt lefties. Personally I will be polite when I tell you that I like where my couch is and I will consume what I want as long as it isn't affecting anyone else. My body is my temple and I will worship as I want and guess what you may judge me for it...but I have news for you if you believe in the Bible there is actually only 1 who's say will matter in the end.
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posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 04:50 PM
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we've been doing it in britain for decades, we don't have many whiney catholics to laugh at cheers for the link.
americans wanting to control births in iceland, jesus wept.



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