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Antifa fact check... are the equal to the kkk??

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posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:12 AM
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Previous to the last couple weeks I have never heard of this antifa.. probably because they are only roughly 1 year old...

Supposedly they are just as dangerous as any neo nazi group, so I decided to do some checking..

How is something I've never even heard of equal to a bunch of militant extremists known for terrorist attacks and lyinchings????

So I googled antifa and fact check to see what came up, and what do you know. Every anti antifa snopes are fact check is false...


Now I'm not saying they are good.. I've never met one..

I bet no one here has ever personally met one..

It's funny how the right wing media complex is always pushing these evil groups that must be destroyed.. yet I've never even seen one of their members..


www.snopes.com...

www.snopes.com...


www.snopes.com...



Here is an NPR article on how wide spread antif is.. spoilers it isn't..

www.npr.org...

I wouldn't be surprised if there might be 50-100 NATIONALLY.. less than the staff one NFL team shows up with on Sunday..


But as far as right wing extremists there are 300 violent terrorist attacks a year....

www.google.com...


There isn't anything even about it.. there are probably more WHITE SUPREMACISTS GROUPS than there are single antifa members..

the KKK alone is 5,000 to 8,000 REGISTED MEMBERS...



This is just a BS attempt at "I know you are but what am I.."

Just because both sides have issues doesn't mean that both sides have the exact same issues...

The left wing cannot be BOTH sad little snowflakes who cry over trigger words AND RABID VIOLENT TERRORISTS..

those two things don't really come in the same package....



Now don't know antifa.. I have never met one of there members..

I've met white supremacists and kkk members.. but I do live in Mississippi...

All 53 of their members might be horrible people...

But there is no evidence they are even remotely as bad as the KKK and other white supremacists groups..


There are only 2 confirmed stories that I found about antifa that are even remotely confirmed..

1) they have been confirmed tbrowong rocks at trump supporters..

Which is insanely dangerous.. people die and are seriously injured a lot doing things like that.. but how many protests do not include apeople throwing rocks???

1/10????

Maybe less.. so horrible, but not new or outside the norm of contentious protestors..

2) antifa charging white supremacists groups with clubs last week in charolette...

Which is definitely a step up from rock throwing and a legit treat that should be prosecuted..


But even money with the the VERY long standing KKK types who perpetuate 300 VIOLENT terrorist attacks a year?!?!!


Not even close...




















edit on 16-8-2017 by JoshuaCox because: (no reason given)



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posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:20 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Plenty of video proving just how violent antifa has become. They see violence as ok since they're fighting the good fight against fascism while being fascist but want communism

They do invoke violence and everyone who doesn't agree with their high moral virtue is the enemy so everyone deserves violence that doesnt agree with them.

As bad as the kkk? No but they are a massive group and far more in number then the kkk and growing now with all the madia praise. Yes they're danger to free speech


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posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:22 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Previous to the last couple weeks I have never heard of this antifa..

So, now you're an antifa expert because 'google'?

google own youtube, youtube have demonitized Dice, PJW and D&S because those 3 have called out antitard and BLM et al many times for their extremist fascist philosophies.

Antifa = anti-first amendment and the proof is in every action they take - which is to shut down words that hurt their pathetic feelings - and shut them down with violence.

Just like Hitlers brownshirts.

You too need to history better, lest the CNN propaganda fully brainwash you.


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posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:22 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

I give up. You're lucky that no german police officer or someone from hamburg will ever see this thread beause they would rip you to shreds. You even ignored the 500 cops that were injured during the G20. Enjoy your life in a bubble of pure bliss. I'm done trying to educate you.





posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:24 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox


This is just a BS attempt at "I know you are but what am I.


Great summation of your own thread.

ALL extremist suck no matter what side people try to associate them with.

more naner naner boo boo helps nothing



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:25 AM
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a reply to: Sublimecraft




So, now you're an antifa expert because 'google'?


Don't forget Snopes!



Snopes aims to debunk or confirm widely spread urban legends. The site has been referenced by news media and other sites, including CNN,[12] Fox News Channel,[13] MSNBC,[14] and Australia's ABC on its Media Watch program. Snopes' popular standing is such that some chain e-mail hoaxes claim to have been "checked out on 'Snopes.com'" in an attempt to discourage readers from seeking verification.[15] As of March 2009, the site had approximately 6.2 million visitors per month.[


Just another fake news outlet


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posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:26 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

You should come to California. You will see for yourself how violent Antifa is. I said this another thread but let me say this again:

To keep your job as a professor in a California college you have to either tow the line by following the ideology of the Liberal Coastal Elites or either get fired or even if you are tenured, get doxxed and possibly assaulted by Antifa/BLM. This is coming from a professor who hates Trump and is not the conspiracy type.


edit on 8/16/2017 by starwarsisreal because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:26 AM
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Who said they are equal to the KKK?


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posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:27 AM
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I just did a fact check using Google also.

Google says socialism is awesome and Trump sucks!

*wow*

Who knew!



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:29 AM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
Who said they are equal to the KKK?


I guess JoshuaCox has problems to tell the difference between like and equally. It happens.
edit on 16-8-2017 by Perfectenemy because: damn antifa gremlin again



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:31 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox




Previous to the last couple weeks I have never heard of this antifa..
Supposedly they are just as dangerous as any neo nazi group, so I decided to do some checking.. How is something I've never even heard of equal to a bunch of militant extremists known for terrorist attacks and lyinchings????


If you've only became aware of these assh**es in the last 2 weeks, you really haven't been paying attention. Who do you think trashed Berkeley? You haven't heard of them, so they can't possibly be a threat? Really?

Antifa has been around for a while.
www.theatlantic.com...


The Rise of the Violent Left - Antifa’s activists say they’re battling burgeoning authoritarianism on the American right. Are they fueling it instead?




In February, masked antifascists broke store windows and hurled Molotov cocktails and rocks at police during a rally against the planned speech by Yiannopoulos.


Here's one thing about them you really need to know... [ emphasis mine ]



when people they deem racists and fascists manage to assemble, antifa’s partisans try to break up their gatherings, including by force.


"Think like us or else"



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:32 AM
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Don't care for either groups or their ideology. That said and I'm not defending either side but would there have been any injuries or damage to property had Antifa not shown up to counter-protest?

We all know the answer so it is rhetorical. You take one hate group and let them have their get together to blow off steam and spout their ignorance to one another and it ends. Simple as that.

But...take a second hate group, add a police stand down order, and let them show up at the first hate group's get together..bad things are going to happen.

What we had at Charlottesville was a recipe for disaster all around with more than enough blame to go around for everyone involved and the elected officials of the city and county.

So in my opinion which is biased as I lean right, Antifa, KKK, and BLM are all radical hate groups and no good for our society.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:33 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
I just did a fact check using Google also.

Google says socialism is awesome and Trump sucks!

*wow*

Who knew!


Trump doesn't suck. He has lots of supporters!!




posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:34 AM
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Joshuacox- official spokesperson for Antifa and the violent left.
edit on 16-8-2017 by 4N0M4LY because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:35 AM
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It is my opinion that Antifa is a small group of anarchists that like to travel around and attach themselves to protests/counter-protests, and like to cause as much grief/chaos as they can.

I would not be surprised to find that some of them were also among the idiots that escalated things in places like Ferguson.

The KKK? That's a very different monster altogether. So they are not equal.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:35 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Maybe the thread title should of been "Antifa fact check... Are they equal to the kkk?

Maybe less arguments from both sides.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:35 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

I'm going to make a parallel here that isn't going to sit right with a lot of members but it needs to be said:
In the 1930's a far right wing political group took control of Germany with less than majority support. They proceeded to install a propaganda machine that targeted extremist left wing ideology and later suppressed all left wing discourse by attaching it to the extremist ideology. They also demonized a religion they considered to be evil. Due to their nationalism, immigrants (and even conquered people) were undesirables as well.

Today the Alt Right emerges (proven to come from the same, exact people as that previous paragraph). The seize control of the country with less than the majority. They have a propaganda machine already installed. The Alt-Right has demonized immigrants. They demonize a religion. They attach all left wing discourse to the idea of it being extremist and constantly talk about the threat that extremist left wing ideology poses.

Any of this looking familiar and scary to anyone else? What do you think the end game is here?



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:36 AM
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a reply to: introvert

Yes they are. Your too niave to think otherwise. You are convinced already. Oh well.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:38 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Yeah. Well, the wingnuts on ATS will be happy to deny away.

Cuz... ya know... violence is bad. BAD! Especially violence against windows, cars and ... things in general.

Where was I? Anyway. War with Terror anyone?
edit on 16-8-2017 by PublicOpinion because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:39 AM
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a reply to: Perfectenemy

Only Antifa members rioted at the last G20 summit?

Say it ain't so.




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