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posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 05:17 AM
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You know I am sick and tired of the White Supremacists and Neo-Nazis on this board trying to paint anti-fascists as being exactly the same as Fascists, therefore the Neo-Nazis are okay man.

Stop. Defending. Nazis.

This shouldn't be that hard for people to grasp.


Anti-fascists are not fascists. The clue is in the name. Stop believing all the propaganda the Fascists are putting out to try and justify themselves by saying 'the alt-left are just as bad as us!' When you say 'Oh well the opposition were just as bad', then you are defending Nazis. And you get tweets from the ex head of the KKK congratulating you for being on his side.

Stop. Defending. Nazis.




posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 05:17 AM
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while the crowd was being rather rude and obnoxious, I didn't see any physical violent acts did you? they were just expressing their freedom of speech! but, no one can tell me that the guy could have expected anything else from happening.. could he? people are angry, one of their own was killed by one of these outsiders! heck the judge couldn't even appoint a public defender in the usual fashion because the office who is responsible for it had someone who was harmed by this accident! and, now there's rumors floating around that the same crew will be back in town for the funeral of the girl killed, most likely accompanied by a bunch that feel it's their duty to protect the community from them?? what's wrong with having some respect and leaving the city alone to bury their dead, heal their wounds, and come to grips with what has happened?

but, hey cheer up peeps!! there's about nine other cities that will be blessed with this bs this coming weekend!!
as they all flock to express their opinion about the firing of some google employee!!
what this amounts to is that a small group of people, on both sides, seems to think that they should be able to terrorized businesses and local communities if they don't behave the way they wish.
and you can blame some weird dem conspiracy, or maybe it's the deeps state, or heck maybe it's even trump himself, I mean there's probably no one who would like to shut down the protesters and demonstrations as badly as he does!!
but, they can't force us to play ball, that is our choice to make... just chose not to play!! it's that simple.
chose to abuse our freedom of speech rights, which when you have people flocking in from canada to stick their nose into decisions made by businesses or local communities in such large numbers... you are abusing your rights..
the businesses will no longer feel free to make their decisions based on what they think is good policy, the communities will stop listening to those who elected them and they will be more concerned with just who will get ticked off enough to invade their community and bring a flipping war with them!! abuse them you lose them!!



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posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 05:17 AM
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a reply to: strongfp

My take too.


Neo-Nazis/supremacists bring bodies hanging from trees, internment camps and forced deportations. Gays, Jews and whoever else targeted for captivity or death. Cultural misogyny too with women being removed from the workforce. As political governance, racial supremacy and/or Nazism promises an absolute, undemocratic dystopia.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 05:30 AM
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a reply to: Painterz

I detest the westboro baptist church but I don't want to silence them.

Idc what you believe, make it known. I'd rather argue with facts.

Lefties want a world where you can be punished for wrong think.

Freedom of speech is something we all need to rally behind.

And more to your point, antifa already has a higher body count than your so called fascists.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 05:30 AM
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a reply to: strongfp
"but at least the so called alt left (not sure where that term started all of a sudden)"

Trump created the term in his last interview. And the press took the word and used it as if it was an average term, not a fake, fantasy term.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 05:33 AM
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a reply to: Painterz

The basis of the Alt-Left is that of Racial Supremacism and hatred against those of European ancestry, they wish to displace those of European ancestry and institute a totalitarian globalist regime, they're the most racially obsessive and aggressive group in modern day politics and simply project onto others what they are themselves guilty of.

In America it was the Democrats that started engaging in divisive identity politics which gave rise to reactionary identity groups among which those that identify as Neo-Nazi are a very small and inconsequential minority, in attempting to eradicate Southern culture the Nazi's are going to be the least of their concerns.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 05:36 AM
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a reply to: Sigrun

Aww how cute your Trump invents a new word and you start spreading it immediately. See the problem is, alt right is a term that was needed to make white supremacists presentable. Because they want to take over the USA.

The ultra left doesn't need sugarcoating. It's about hitting racists, it's a violent group. They never wanted to be presentable, they're not a political group looking for power, they're solely interested in keeping the alt right out of power.

Alt-left that's the dumbest thing anyone ever said. You should be ashamed, for the lack of critical thinking. If Trump tells you the sky is purple, you'd be all like "oh yes now I see it too."
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posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 05:40 AM
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a reply to: Sigrun

This is a pathetic pity parade that portrays a supporter of segregation and slavery as a victim. The redneck was about to piss his pants lol.

Yes the protesters were annoying I'll give you that much...but that slack jawed yokel saluting the statue while holding the Confederate flag is reminiscent of the times when my ancestors were shipped over by boats and sold as property.

If he had his way he'd have some of us picking cotton and emptying his sh#t pot but you want us to feel sorry for this clown.

"Blood and soil"

Have you done the DNA test? You probably have some stuff you don't know about...



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 05:40 AM
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a reply to: Kandinsky

In reality there are very few such bogeymen and they receive disproportionate media attention in order to justify the actions of the Alt-Left which are on a nationwide scale and have full control of the MSM, social media platforms and Academia, it's well known that such groups are created for scare mongering and deflection, everytime the Alt-Left is called out on their activities it's always Muh Nazi's...they should be ashamed.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 05:41 AM
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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Sigrun

Aww how cute your Trump invents a new word and you start spreading it immediately. See the problem is, alt right is a term that was needed to make white supremacists presentable. Because they want to take over the USA.

The ultra left doesn't need sugarcoating. It's about hitting racists, it's a violent group. They never wanted to be presentable, they're not a political group looking for power, they're solely interested in keeping the alt right out of power.

Alt-left that's the dumbest thing anyone ever said. You should be ashamed, for the lack of critical thinking. If Trump tells you the sky is purple, you'd be all like "oh yes now I see it too."


The hateful alt-left (used for a long time, by the way) doesn't want power??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
How cute - as you would say.

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posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 05:44 AM
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a reply to: Peeple

I actually like to use the term myself but in a positive sense as the current joke that passes for the Left is pathetic, Trump has actually just sort of ruined that, i could even define my version of Alt-Left.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 05:45 AM
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a reply to: Sigrun



In America it was the Democrats that started engaging in divisive identity politics which gave rise to reactionary identity groups among which those that identify as Neo-Nazi are a very small and inconsequential minority, in attempting to eradicate Southern culture the Nazi's are going to be the least of their concerns.


There's been a sub-culture of racial supremacists in the US going back to the Abolitionists. Since then, they've existed all on their own so there's no need to say they're 'reactionary' when their history shows they've been proactive. An more accurate argument would be to say other groups have arisen in response to them.

Have a look for a guy called Dudley-Pelley and his Silver Shirts.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 05:46 AM
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a reply to: Sigrun

Please do. What do you think alt left means? Define it for me.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 05:47 AM
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a reply to: scubagravy



but that chick at the end of the video needs a suplex.

in my best rick flair voice,
WOOOOO!



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 05:50 AM
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a reply to: Sigrun

I read their Twitter feeds and have read their website articles. I've drawn my own conclusions and really have nothing to say in their favour. Their ideal world is a hellish nightmare.

No need to compare them to the Far-Left. They can be studied on their own merits and measured accordingly.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 05:58 AM
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a reply to: Peeple

It's just based on my understanding of the political spectrum;

Right-Me-Family-Friends-Local Community-Ethnicity-Nation-Race-Species-Critters-Plants-Aliens-Universe-Left

Thus the Right is based in self interest and the extension of that towards the Left, in essence subjectivity and objectivity, ideally we should progress our concerns across the entire spectrum but of course conflicts of interests arise and that's Politics, thus my ultimate Alt-Left a Deist would understand as God and also thus explaining the behaviour of every Leftist Demagogue...



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 06:04 AM
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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Sigrun

Please do. What do you think alt left means? Define it for me.


Violent, hateful, socialist, authoritarians who seek to impose their cultural and political ideology on all others at pain of being murdered, censored and/or relegated to second class citizenry, with fewer rights than those that join them or are compliant to them.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 06:07 AM
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a reply to: Kandinsky

Naturally these arise when their interests are challenged and that's reactionary, the question is what is the nature of the challenge at this particular time from the Left and is it justified, it seems to be at the level of the existential.



a reply to: UKTruth

The question was what is my positive understanding of an Alt-Left, you've described the joke version.
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posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 06:11 AM
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a reply to: rockintitz

Can you show me the evidence for this higher body count? I'm interested in how that is worked out.

Also, if you labour to call these people fascists, surely you can't call the other guys 'anti-fascists'...

Freedom of speech is a right, people have the right to state and express their opinions, it is therefore people's right to counter-protest at these events as well. There have been graphic videos of fascists beating people up in the past few days, that is a bit more than 'wrong-think'.

There is no violence in the OP video, just people expressing there freedom to call someone a terrorist, that is there right, why would you want to suppress that?



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 06:11 AM
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originally posted by: Sigrun
a reply to: Kandinsky

Naturally these arise when their interests are challenged and that's reactionary, the question is what is the nature of the challenge at this particular time from the Left and is it justified, it seems to be at the level of the existential.


If you can't understand this, then you must not be from one of the ethnic groups being targeted by these Nazis..
I guess it's not your problem if you aren't the one targeted.. I get it. /shrug



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