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Someone Please Explain Exactly what Alt-Right and Ctrl-Left Mean?

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posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 06:11 PM
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Who is Alt-Right? Who is Ctrl-Left?

How do I know if someone is Right or Alt-Right?

How do I know if someone is Left or Alt-Left?

I keep seeing the terms, but I see people called both terms who seem more like moderates to me. I had tried to use context clues to determine their meaning, but they seem to be thrown about in nearly every situation.

I have even used the terms, but since then I have realized that I don't understand them because of how I have seen them used on ATS and in the media.

Aren't most people just Right / Left or Moderate?




posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 06:12 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus

Looking forward to an answer, but my guess is that each is just a nonsensical pet name used by those in the other camp.



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 06:16 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus

I had to look them as well as a few other terms up. I hate labeling and I can't see how anyone can fit all they believe or side with under any single one of the labels.



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 06:17 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus

It means Putin won. He is driving us apart with an online propaganda machine helping to radicalize the left and the right



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 06:18 PM
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Oh THIS is going to be good, pitiful humans👽



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 06:18 PM
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originally posted by: Metallicus

Who is Alt-Right? Who is Ctrl-Left??


Mostly jerkoffs.



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 06:19 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus

Not sure because the definitions change daily.


Just accept that you're a racist if you want free speech.

You're a racist if you don't want statues torn down or books burned.

It makes life so much easier.




posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 06:21 PM
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I have no real clue.

I had never heard of Alt-Right before the election and then suddenly everyone who was going to think of voting for Trump was Alt-Right and evil and deplorable.

So I sort of tossed it in the same bin as Neo-Con, meaning as far as I can tell it means everything or nothing and precisely whatever the person using it against you wants it to mean.

Just assume it's a slur and move on.
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posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 06:22 PM
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This




posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 06:22 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus




Who is Alt-Right? Who is Ctrl-Left?


Same people as it was before.

Right and Left.

ALT is the new political neologism for 'white supremacist,nazi,racists'. Which in use isn't meant to differentiate between all right wingers.

They're all bad.

The right responded in kind with CTRL.

After all they aren't the only people that get to make up political neologism's.
edit on 15-8-2017 by neo96 because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 06:24 PM
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As for the ctl-left, it's more of a play on the old 'Control-Alternate-Delete' keyboard combo.

Instead of being the Alternate Right, it is the Control Left... meaning progressive statists.



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 06:27 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus


I have never used those names to anyone ... don't recognise myself as any of them

as according to what I read I am all of them .... and then some.


However I am sometimes in sheer frustration guilty of using sjw or snowflake when

appropriate.



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 06:32 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus

Problem is - it depends on who you're talking to.

it will be interesting to see what others say though.

Good question!

peace



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 06:36 PM
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I have never used those names to anyone ... don't recognise myself as any of them


Here's the litmus test for CTRL LEFT.

1. Support the state controlling the air,land, and water via the climate bullsnip.
2. Think the state has the right to tell people how much money they can make,and what's in their bank accounts,.
3. Think Gunz R Bad and supports people proving their innocence to the state before they get to practice a clear right.
4. Think the metric for pay should be based on opinion of worth that actual work done.
5. Think the STATE should take over healthcare( a corporate product) and provide it free of charge.

That is control stage left. (CTRL).

ALT right is anyone that supported people getting run down over statues.



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 06:40 PM
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a reply to: neo96

Oh, the ALT CTRL DEL guys so bad, like some dystopian future...



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 06:43 PM
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a reply to: eletheia

Social Justice is enforced equality of outcome through the law.

Social Justice Warriors are those who fight for that by any means necessary.



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 06:46 PM
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originally posted by: Arnie123
a reply to: neo96

Oh, the ALT CTRL DEL guys so bad, like some dystopian future...


I even forgot about burning flags,trying to ban flags, banning cross's, banning and tearing down statues.

Also CTRL LEFT.



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 06:48 PM
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Ctrl-Right
Ctrl-Left
Del-Right
Del-Left
Ctrl-Del-Right
Ctrl-Del-Left
Ctrl-Alt-Del-Del-Right-Left
Alt-Ctrl-Del-Alt-Left-Right
.....

Anyone confused yet?



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 06:50 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus

I'm also trying to figure this out..

Apparently the alt-right has taken over the site.

I think we need to find them.



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 06:51 PM
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Alt-Right is a white nationalist movement, named by Richard B Spencer. It started with Spencer and his clique of associates who write for/read publications like:

Radix Journal
VDARE
Taki's Magazine
American Renaissance
AltRight.com
The Occidental Observer

Some prominent promoters: Richard B Spencer (Radix Journal, AltRight.com, Taki's), Steve Sailer (Taki's, VDARE), Jared Taylor (Amren), Kevin B. MacDonald (Occidental Observer)

If you're serious, it's not that hard to find out but it's really not reasonable to expect that anyone will detail an entire movement in a forum post.

The "Ctrl-Left" is some s# made up by people who were confused about what "Alt-Right" was and thought they might be Alt-Right because they knew Hillary was against it and they were constantly coming into contact with Alt-Right folks like Matt Forney and Brittany Pettibone on Twitter in #MAGA trending topics and through the likes of Cernovich, Baked Alaska, Posobiec, Milo, Breitbart News, etc.

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If you have to ask what it is, then you're probably not a part of it.

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As far as groups go, there's Identity Evropa and some people include Traditional Worker's Party but Heimbach, despite trying to come off as more "Alt-Right" is really just a *slightly* cleaned up neo-Nazi and you can easily find him in pictures alongside members of groups like the Aryan Terror Brigade. Heimbach has also recently aligned his TWP with NSM, Vanguard America and similar which are neo-Nazi groups. So, you'll see Heimbach sometimes called "alt-right" but it's really not a good fit.

Then you have the Proud Boys, which were founded by co-founder of VICE, Gavin McInnes, who also started Proud Boy Magazine. There's some overlap with the Alt-Right there: McInnes himself has been published by some of the above sites and makes appearances on Alt-Right linked podcasts, Internet radio shows, etc.

However, there is a schism that has been forming since the election because the Proud Boys and similar aren't strictly white nationalists (as a group). They refer to themselves as "Western Chauvinists." Essentially it's like... ummm... hmmm... white cultural supremacy? I don't know that there's a term for it which is probably why they came up with "Western Chauvinism." They accept non-whites who are super zealous about the greatness of white people. They're also "anti-feminism." They're part of what is becoming known as the "Alt-Lite" (or "Alt-Light"). Eventually the meme warriors and #GamerGate trolls will separate back out from the "Alt-Right" entirely.
edit on 2017-8-15 by theantediluvian because: (no reason given)



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