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Trump says the 'alt-left' bears some responsibility for violence in Charlottesville

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posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 05:22 PM
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a reply to: 3daysgone

No I don't support him.

The lies I'm talking about are when you claim I'm a member or supporter of BLM or Antifa or whatever the hell you said.

I'm not and never have been.




posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 05:24 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Asktheanimals

But when the Nazis surrounded and assaulted a small group of UVA students the night before that was good will. Also, let's not forget that we have clergy and faith leaders stating that it was Nazis that were the aggressors and that if it weren't for Antifa they would have been crushed. But I'm sure the men of God are lying and the literal Nazis are in the right.


That never happened.

Did it?




posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 05:26 PM
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a reply to: windword

Thanks for letting us know you support Antifa. I don't support any of these groups. They are all hate groups and should be erased from our society, but it is your prerogative to think the way you do. I will not bring violence on you for the way you think, only hate groups would do that.



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 05:26 PM
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originally posted by: Konduit
Trump tore into everyone at today's presser. Neo-nazis, ANTIFA, and especially the media. It's refreshing to see the POTUS call these situations out for what it is.
Absolutely and I loved every bit of it.

This whole thing further illustrates the delusional left and their comprehension of "rights" and what is "allowed" in our country, being emotionally compromised in this situation won't get you nowhere but looking like an idiot.



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 05:27 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm




No I don't support him.


So when I called you an anti Trumper you said it was a lie. I am not sure you can tell what a lie is at this moment.



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 05:28 PM
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originally posted by: 3daysgone
a reply to: windword

Thanks for letting us know you support Antifa. I don't support any of these groups. They are all hate groups and should be erased from our society, but it is your prerogative to think the way you do. I will not bring violence on you for the way you think, only hate groups would do that.

LOL. You missed the joke.



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 05:28 PM
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originally posted by: redtic

originally posted by: Perfectenemy

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Perfectenemy

originally posted by: Gryphon66
Who are the ANTIFA folks "racist" against?

They're a violent political group and that's enough to condemn them ... but do they have a racist message?

Like, you know, the organizers, planners and participants at the "Unite the Right" rally?


Antifa is not a political movement. They are anti-capitalism and anti-fascists at their core. I'm not even sure if the U.S. based Antifa are the real deal. Something seems off about them.



Partially correct. I won't quibble.

However, is there a racist component?

There are several posters here attempting to depict both "sides" as racist ... and while I'm not going to fight the BLM definition again ... ANTIFA is not racist ... at least to my knowledge.


Truly depends on your definition of racism. From my point of view Antifa exhibits racist tendencies towards Nazis(who are not all whites mind you) because they don't like their ideology just based of what happened 80 years ago. It's basically an endless circle of hate and violence. I admit the lines are kinda blurry on the whole racism issue.


Wow, did you really just write that? So antifa are "racist" because they think Nazi ideology is repugnant, which it was 80 years ago and still is today, and the neo-Nazis are blindingly obviously racist in their hatred of jews, blacks, etc - essentially anyone not white - and there's supposed to be some assemblance of equivalency there? Are you serious?


Yeah the truth hurts i know. The thing is i'm not defending their ideology in any shape or form period. If they commit crimes lock them up but calling for their extermination is a little bit excessive for my taste. That's what Antifa stands for. Btw the middle east hates all kinds of people just for worshipping the wrong entity. I don't see advocating you or anyone else locking up and getting rid of all radical muslims either. What about radical christians? There is plenty of hatred in the world for all kinds of moronic reasons. Going after one group and ignoring all the other hatefilled radicals is just wrong. Plain and simple.



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 05:28 PM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Have you seen some evidence of a large Antifa presence at the rally? I've been looking through the videos and I've seen a smattering of Antifa, nothing major.



Look at the protesters. Look at the line of neo-Nazis marching in, geared up. There's also an armed presence that might be III%ers.

This video claims to show "ANTIFA Inciting Violence." Look for yourself. Who advances on who? Fully geared up neo-Nazis march directly into a crowd of protesters.



Was it the "Alt-Left" who "came charging and swinging clubs?" as the lying President claimed?

How about Friday night. When the column of torch wielding, Nazi slogan shouting neo-Nazis descended on the Lee monument where a small band of University of VA student protesters are gathered — do you see a bunch of geared up Antifa? Here's the "Alt-Left" that were "swinging clubs."



Right at the beginning of this video, if you watch the left side, you can see the neo-Nazi's pushing in on them.



Donald Trump is more concerned with leading the campaign of false equivalence to defend neo-Nazis than leading this entire country.
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posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 05:29 PM
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this man who is in the WH is either a complete simpleton, suffering from some type of dementia, a neo nazi sympathiser or a racist bigot.....whatever his major malfunction is he can't " president "
He is a dangerous fool, morally bankrupt ..and his Trump train is heading straight over the edge of a cliff.
I hope that enough politicians jump off of that train before it goes over and he pulls the whole country into the abyss.
If anything ..that totally insane press conference has validated all of the criticism that has followed Trumps election.
Come on America...you deserve better than this.



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 05:29 PM
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originally posted by: Arnie123

originally posted by: Konduit
Trump tore into everyone at today's presser. Neo-nazis, ANTIFA, and especially the media. It's refreshing to see the POTUS call these situations out for what it is.
Absolutely and I loved every bit of it.

This whole thing further illustrates the delusional left and their comprehension of "rights" and what is "allowed" in our country, being emotionally compromised in this situation won't get you nowhere but looking like an idiot.

Are you going to condemn the Alt-Right as well?



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 05:29 PM
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a reply to: icanteven

I think you are a very ignorant person and it shows more and more with every post you reply with...



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 05:30 PM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: xuenchen


There were 2 sides in WWII too, the Fascists Nazi's side and the other side. Both brought big guns to the fight. But, I guess Trump would have had a hard time picking sides then too. Good people on both sides, right?



Nazi's were socialist



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 05:31 PM
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originally posted by: 3daysgone
a reply to: mOjOm




You seem upset that your great leader might really be a closet racist.


Hey Gambler. Did that hurt? Or has it really lost it's sting coming from an atifa supporting anti-Trumper?


No. You called me " an atifa supporting anti-Trumper". Which is a lie. I don't support Antifa in any way.

I'm also not Anti-Trump. I just think he's a complete failure. But that doesn't mean I wouldn't change my mind if he did something that I agreed with. I've been supportive of a couple things he's done actually and said so on here when I did. But like 99% of what he's doing I think is total crap.



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 05:32 PM
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originally posted by: Perfectenemy
It's pretty interesting to watch how people are automatically getting defensive now that he called out all sides. Thanks Trump.

Honestly, I'm glad, reveals the colors of the snakes and fakes.



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 05:34 PM
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originally posted by: RickyD
a reply to: icanteven

I think you are a very ignorant person and it shows more and more with every post you reply with...


Yes, you have me pegged. Ignorant as hell. Each day, I realize just how ignorant I have been about the deep-seated white nationalist sentiments in the hearts of my countrymen. I feel ignorant today thinking Trump couldn't make things worse as CiC. Yet, I'm proven wrong again and again.



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 05:35 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

This would make a fantastic original post.

On edit - the folks surrounding the statue in silent protest are the bravest people in this whole mess.


edit on 15-8-2017 by icanteven because: see above

edit on 15-8-2017 by icanteven because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 05:36 PM
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Strange? With hundreds of people rioting at Charlottesville there is no independent video of this chaos available online? There is only garbage clips out. Funny how Contrived News Network(CNN) seems to have the only prime footage available.

Is it all being bought up by MSM and independent news agencies? Purposely censored by government for national security reasons? Did rioters purposely not bring cellphones for purpose of anonymity. What is going on with independent footage taken in Charlottesville?



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 05:37 PM
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Wow, im so tired and sick of seeing the people of this once united nation fighting. Dont you get it, your giving tptb exactly what they want. United we stand divided we fall. And since when did people actually start believing the msm. Since when has it been so hard to acquire thick skin and not care what others think? So long your not physically harmed and your rights are not perverted by others live and let live. There will always be those with different views and thats pretty damn alright, if everybody thought exactly the same it'd be pretty damn boring. But seriously, people really need to learn to acquire integrity, morals, and critical thinking. Google is not critical thinking!



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 05:37 PM
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a reply to: Bwomp83

In name only. Hitler himself decried the Socialists in Mein Kampf.

If we use your logic North Korea has the same style of government as the US. They do call themselves a Democratic Republic.



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 05:38 PM
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a reply to: icanteven

From that statement I agree with Ricky also.



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