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Protesters pull down Confederate statue at old Durham County courthouse

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posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 06:09 PM
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a reply to: matafuchs

I can see you constantly blame liberals all the while giving the Republicans and trump a pass.

You did everything possible to justify the guy driving into those people and say how scared he was, it was about the statue etc...

The alternative right cares about as much as a communist about the constitution and you seem to have no idea.




posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 06:21 PM
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a reply to: luthier

I cannot stand most republicans in office. They are all the same. Left and Right. I voted for Trump because they all hated him. Knew what he wanted to do. What he is trying to do. A bunch of whiners who are going to lose their fat checks for lobbying.

The guy in the car. No justification. Not jumping to conclusions. I mean, where is the story now? Seems to have gone quiet because it did it's job. Now it has moved on to calling out anyone white to be a Nazi and tearing down statues that meant nothing 12 months ago. I have read the kid was a schizophrenic so when he is not convicted or charged with a lesser crime I an sure a few towns will burn down. It will not be the KKK or the Nazis doing it either.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 06:23 PM
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originally posted by: Moresby
Since when did ATS become the Daily Stormer?

ATS has always been fairly right wing. But it seemed more a right wing libertarian than right wing fascist. In other words, people who cared about civil liberties. Not people who wished to crush them.

Most of you need to spend a dark night of the soul and ask yourself why you're defending people with an ideology we fought in a world war?

In fact, it was the fighting of those people that placed America as a world moral power as well as a world military power.


Hey we got another!

Defending free speech or saying both sides have violence makes you a nazi defender!

Anyone keeping a tally?



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 06:32 PM
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posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 06:33 PM
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Food for thought;

There's only 1 other group I can think of that is destroying landmarks and monuments in the name of their ideology... it's called ISIS.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 06:58 PM
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a reply to: Konduit

Except one is for religious reasons. The other is to remove statues of traitors.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 07:14 PM
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a reply to: matafuchs

this is fake news...




What's True
In October 2016, indigenous rights activists and artists protested several conditions at a New York City museum, among them a statue of President Teddy Roosevelt.

What's False

The protest occurred well before August 2017 clashes in Charlottesville, Virginia and involved separate groups; the "Monday" referenced was 10 October 2016, not 14 August 2017.

www.snopes.com...


oh, and there's been some arrests in the illegal destruction of the monument, where ever it was...




edit on 16-8-2017 by dawnstar because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 07:17 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Moresby
Since when did ATS become the Daily Stormer?

ATS has always been fairly right wing. But it seemed more a right wing libertarian than right wing fascist. In other words, people who cared about civil liberties. Not people who wished to crush them.

Most of you need to spend a dark night of the soul and ask yourself why you're defending people with an ideology we fought in a world war?

In fact, it was the fighting of those people that placed America as a world moral power as well as a world military power.


Hey we got another!

Defending free speech or saying both sides have violence makes you a nazi defender!

Anyone keeping a tally?


Lost count.

But it is telling how many DON'T want free speech.

Really does shine a light.




posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 08:17 PM
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originally posted by: conscientiousobserver
a reply to: Konduit

Except one is for religious reasons. The other is to remove statues of traitors.


Traitors? Please elaborate.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 08:23 PM
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a reply to: matafuchs

Meta it's not just a left problem if the right is doing nothing now is it.

Who do you think hate groups find to shoot up churches and ram people.

What I am saying is a couple things here.

One you exclusively on these boards have been calling this a left problem I don't think I need to do a cut and paste but will if not comes down to it of all your comments.

Two anti racists are not exclusively antifa, and blm whacko liberals as you seem to allude to as the other side. There was a white supremacist rally. White supremacists got the permits. They did a call to arms to show the public how strong they are. This is out of their mouths.

So get it anti racist protestor does not equal antifa white supremacy does equal racism. One group is unified in hatree of other races. This is the jew and blood and soil chanting by a line of hi deeds of racists. Or the interview with an organizer saying trump was a good start but not racist enough since he let his daughter marry a filthy jew.

Anti racists are not all or even the majority socialist. People against white power groups are also conservative. So no its not on both sides. Some antagonists on the anti nazi side and all of the white supramacists are terrible people.

3. The entire purpose of storm front and these organizations has absolutely nothing to do with free speech. They hide behind a constitution they want to destroy. As another supramacist organizer pointed out they love free speech that way they know who to put in the ovens.

4. White power through the kkk were the first people to have a group pity party in the us. White supramacists are not a response to crazy affirmative action they were a response to black voting rights and the end of slavery.

So yes they have free speech and yes vandalism is a crime and dumb.

However, if a town wants to take down a statue through the legislative process that was put up as a protest to black voting rights they should be able to do so, if it's not a historical marker. Like the ones put in front of court houses directly after the 15th amendment. Again. Conversation, legislature leave historical battle ground markers alone. Leave historical sites alone.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 08:34 PM
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originally posted by: Konduit
Food for thought;

There's only 1 other group I can think of that is destroying landmarks and monuments in the name of their ideology... it's called ISIS.






posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 08:46 PM
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originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: Konduit
Food for thought;

There's only 1 other group I can think of that is destroying landmarks and monuments in the name of their ideology... it's called ISIS.





Lol really? So college kids are now isis? Hilarious. Wonder if their beliefs and intent is the same?


Well they are both criminals. That I can agree with. And both ignorant. But not the same.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 08:56 PM
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a reply to: UnBreakable

Leaders off the confederate armies were traitors of the United States of America.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:08 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Moresby
Since when did ATS become the Daily Stormer?

ATS has always been fairly right wing. But it seemed more a right wing libertarian than right wing fascist. In other words, people who cared about civil liberties. Not people who wished to crush them.

Most of you need to spend a dark night of the soul and ask yourself why you're defending people with an ideology we fought in a world war?

In fact, it was the fighting of those people that placed America as a world moral power as well as a world military power.


Hey we got another!

Defending free speech or saying both sides have violence makes you a nazi defender!

Anyone keeping a tally?


Lost count.

But it is telling how many DON'T want free speech.

Really does shine a light.



Yeah, but the drones don't really count do they?



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:31 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

I'll take that bet. What's the timeframe?


It has already started. However, it hasn't reached the peak yet, but it will.
Professors: US flag symbolizes racism, should not be displayed on campus

Eventually, and it won't be long, the extremist left will demand for the removal of the U.S. flag, and to create a new one.

There are plenty of left-wing extremists already saying that the "American flag is a slave flag"...

The American Flag Is the Real Slave Flag

Also, there are already left-wing extremists who also call for the removal/change of the United States Constitution.


Jun 29, 2015 by Dr. Joel McDurmon
...
The obvious retort, then, is, “Then what about the American flag?True: greater atrocities than Southern slavery (and including Southern slavery), and far more in quantity, have been perpetrated under the auspices of that symbol and its Constitution—abortion being the foremost example of our generation. My argument about the Confederate flag certainly did not, and was not meant to, preclude such an observation.
...

americanvision.org...



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:37 PM
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originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: Konduit
Food for thought;

There's only 1 other group I can think of that is destroying landmarks and monuments in the name of their ideology... it's called ISIS.





Lol really? So college kids are now isis? Hilarious.


if it quacks like a duck and waddles like a duck...

The difference between someone like me and someone like you is I don't find it funny.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:39 PM
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originally posted by: conscientiousobserver
a reply to: UnBreakable

Leaders off the confederate armies were traitors of the United States of America.


Lincoln was the traitor. He broke his Oath to uphold the constitution by having his war. Look it up Lincoln broke 11 laws/statues. He also overstepped the rights of the confederate states by unfairly taxing them at worst 50 percent on all their goods..even ones to send north.

The COnfed were within their right to seceed until Lincoln rewrote the laws a bit after the war to cover his arse.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:41 PM
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originally posted by: GusMcDangerthing

originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: Konduit
Food for thought;

There's only 1 other group I can think of that is destroying landmarks and monuments in the name of their ideology... it's called ISIS.





Lol really? So college kids are now isis? Hilarious.


if it quacks like a duck and waddles like a duck...

The difference between someone like me and someone like you is I don't find it funny.

So they have been killing people and throwing gays off the rooftops?



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 10:10 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: GusMcDangerthing

originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: Konduit
Food for thought;

There's only 1 other group I can think of that is destroying landmarks and monuments in the name of their ideology... it's called ISIS.





Lol really? So college kids are now isis? Hilarious.


if it quacks like a duck and waddles like a duck...

The difference between someone like me and someone like you is I don't find it funny.

So they have been killing people and throwing gays off the rooftops?


They haven't killed anyone yet and if they begin to it won't be gays because they're a liberal protected species - assuming they agree with and follow the party line.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 10:11 PM
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originally posted by: GusMcDangerthing

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: GusMcDangerthing

originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: Konduit
Food for thought;

There's only 1 other group I can think of that is destroying landmarks and monuments in the name of their ideology... it's called ISIS.





Lol really? So college kids are now isis? Hilarious.


if it quacks like a duck and waddles like a duck...

The difference between someone like me and someone like you is I don't find it funny.

So they have been killing people and throwing gays off the rooftops?


They haven't killed anyone yet and if they begin to it won't be gays because they're a liberal protected species - assuming they agree with and follow the party line.


Ok. Till then we can't compare them to ISIS.



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