Protesters pull down Confederate statue at old Durham County courthouse

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: BubbaJoe

Being as it may, a statue is not the cause nor does it continually perpetrate it.

Are statues of Grant next?

I have no issues with statues, I personally own stuff with the Confederate Battle Flag on it, a public park, I am going to start to question. But then with a 6'4" gay black man as my best man at wedding, i am not your best person to troll

You think I was trolling?

Virtue signaling aside, I was leading the conversation to the ultimate end. Where does the hypocrisy stop? The same minds that tore this statue down, think you shouldn't own anything having to do with the confederacy.

a reply to: eriktheawful

Crazy days... reminds me of the rumblings of Bolshevism... and the rise of the National Socialists in Germany...


Kind of surreal to see this happen here....

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Deaf Alien

Here's one

www.ajc.com...

That's sad but that's not comparable to tearing down statues illegally.

a reply to: Abysha

If you rent a room in his home, it's still his private space to do with as he chooses though no matter how communal your presence makes it.

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: ketsuko

We should be able to attend rallies and not expect to be murdered.

Peaceful protests, yes.

But this was not peaceful, nor was it a protest. The cops did nothing. The local government did nothing.

Two hate=filled groups fought and a young woman was killed by a Nazi dirtbag.

They were there to fight yes. But not to murder each other. Of course their will be black eyes, broken bones and blood. But murder? Come on.

Oh, that makes it all better. Random violence, battery and assault for everyone! Toss in some molotov cocktails, hairspray torches and concrete-filled bottles as party favors!

Don't understand the point of your sarcasm.

Escalation happens. They bring a gun, you bring a knife. Like Obama said, remember?

Why be shocked when someone isn't content with hitting people with fists, broken bottles or bikelocks? Where do you go from there?

Instead of saying 'oh a little random fighting is to be expected' we should all be saying 'Hey, we're a civilized society and first-world power. Maybe we should start acting like it.'

originally posted by: Ameilia
a reply to: DBCowboy

Anyone know if these people are going to face charges for destruction of property?

They are not. There were no arrests and that statement was made from the local PD.

The saddest part about all of this, is that these SJW's actually have good intentions in their hearts, but are incredibly naive and terribly misguided, and the false sense of moral righteousness only fuels their fervor.

a reply to: Abysha

You lost me completely.

Sorry.

originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
The saddest part about all of this, is that these SJW's actually have good intentions in their hearts, but are incredibly naive and terribly misguided, and the false sense of moral righteousness only fuels their fervor.

The phrase useful idiots comes to mind.

a reply to: Teikiatsu

Uh I know that? I know that those people knew the risks of injury and death. The point is the insinuation that the woman had it coming when someone murdered her. That looks like a justification of murder.

originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
The saddest part about all of this, is that these SJW's actually have good intentions in their hearts, but are incredibly naive and terribly misguided, and the false sense of moral righteousness only fuels their fervor.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions, and their intentions are the best.

originally posted by: JacKatMtn
a reply to: eriktheawful

Crazy days... reminds me of the rumblings of Bolshevism... and the rise of the National Socialists in Germany...


Kind of surreal to see this happen here....

I called it "statue-nacht".

originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: eriktheawful

Next it will be with other things:

Historical places.....let's burn them down..

Yeah. It reminds me of Madonna standing up at the women's rally and telling the world in her oh-so-morally-superior tone that she thinks an awful lot about blowing up the White House!!!

Is that next?

Yep. It's almost like some sort of blood lust.

Seriously, the whole flag thing, here on ATS you can go back and look and see all the people on here going on and on and on and on about how it was just removing that flag from government property.....nothing else, honest!

And those of us that spoke out and said that it would not stop there, that when you start down that road, it becomes a very slippery slope and people will move on to other things.

And boy did they laugh and laugh at us on here when we said that.

They are not laughing now. Now they are trying to justify what people are doing now: destroying, defacing and removing things.......which they swore up and down would never happen......yet here we are.

So here we are too, warning them: it won't stop here.....and it won't stop with just Civil War things. Celebrating this is insane. It's giving anarchy the seal of approval.

We warned everyone before, and they laughed.

What we predicted is coming true.....and we're warning them again: it won't just be Civil War stuff.....it will move on to other things.......things that will come back to bite them in the ass.

But: they are justifying it now and laughing at our warnings again.

Anarchy and Mob Rule is never the right thing to do......you can continue to try and justify it all you want. Truth is: it's not going forward.

It's taking things back....way, way, way back and doing nothing but causing more hate, more resentment, and helping produce even more people that think they are above the law and know better than everyone else.

The result of that line of thinking is always the same: Failure.

Read "1984".......and then actually read some real history books on places like the Soviet Union......Nazi Germany......Imperial Japan.......and more, the list goes on and on and on.

as far as the lady who died...
charlottesville was her home!!
she didn't travel across the country to be there... it was her home, it was her city that a bunch of people marched through with torches shouting "this is our town now!"
what makes anyone think that the residents of that city should just shut themselves in their homes and hide from nuts!! if it was you, you would want to protect your home, try to ensure the safety of your neighbors...
if anyone had the right to have their voices heard, it was the residents of that city!!!

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Deaf Alien

Here's one

www.ajc.com...

That's sad but that's not comparable to tearing down statues illegally.

Agreed.

But placing them in museums is no guarantee that they'll be able to teach or be seen either.

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: Teikiatsu

Uh I know that? I know that those people knew the risks of injury and death. The point is the insinuation that the woman had it coming when someone murdered her. That looks like a justification of murder.

No, you want it to be that so you can feel morally superior.

Her death is the tragic thing that happens when you take risks with dangerous situations.

You're as twisted as my old ex there trying to tell me that if I got raped walking across campus by myself at night, it was my fault. Nope. It was not my fault, but I was fully aware that I was running a higher risk of being attacked because I was doing that.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Deaf Alien

Here's one

www.ajc.com...

That's sad but that's not comparable to tearing down statues illegally.

Agreed.

But placing them in museums is no guarantee that they'll be able to teach or be seen either.

Is it widespread? Or just flukes?

a reply to: dawnstar

So it was her home.

Can you prove she was just out on her way to work or something? Or was she counter-protesting? If the latter, she put herself in a dangerous situation whether she lived there or not.

originally posted by: JinMI
Virtue signaling aside, I was leading the conversation to the ultimate end. Where does the hypocrisy stop? The same minds that tore this statue down, think you shouldn't own anything having to do with the confederacy.

i'm sorry, i don't agree. i find it distasteful if people have private ownership of hateful material, but that's entirely distinct from endorsing it on public property.

a reply to: ketsuko

I think you misunderstood me.