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Charlottesville Driver Innocent?

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posted on Aug, 14 2017 @ 02:52 PM
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originally posted by: bknapple32

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Edumakated

In this video it looks like no one was around him at the beginning. It appears he headed straight towards a group of people at high speeds, no horn, indiscriminately.



Amazing how this vid was left OUT by the OP


I knew someone else would put it in and figured out I was running out of space. It is in the thread, but it still doesn't necessarily prove or disprove anything...




posted on Aug, 14 2017 @ 02:53 PM
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originally posted by: bender151
a reply to: Krazysh0t

How can you presume innocence without evidence? Are you #ing serious? I hope you never serve on a jury.

I'm not presuming innocence without evidence... The OP is. Way to fail at reading comprehension.



posted on Aug, 14 2017 @ 02:53 PM
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originally posted by: onehuman
a reply to: MotherMayEye
You mentioned the white polo shirt he is wearing in the car. Have you not found it odd he is wearing a black and white shirt in his mugshot?

I think mugshots are taking pretty soon after you come in as part of the booking session. Before you are given prison cloths I think, but may be wrong



I haven't seen the mugshot. You should post it in your comment.

He was wearing a white polo earlier that day with a white tshirt underneath and it looks to be the same in the photo I posted of the car.



posted on Aug, 14 2017 @ 02:54 PM
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originally posted by: Perfectenemy
Well i'm still waiting for evidence that he was a WS or a Nazi. Official sources are awfully quiet to confirm that Alex Fields was in fact a WS or a Nazi. I'm reading a lot of comments claiming that but they all have no answer for that question that is also backed up by official sources. Interesting.


That's true.

The fact that he was rocking a white polo and khakis and hanging out with a bunch of other guys wearing the same thing, all holding a shield with a logo from Vanguard America is probably just a bunch of coincidences.



posted on Aug, 14 2017 @ 02:55 PM
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OP couldn't be more transparent, booooooooooo



posted on Aug, 14 2017 @ 02:55 PM
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originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: bknapple32

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Edumakated

In this video it looks like no one was around him at the beginning. It appears he headed straight towards a group of people at high speeds, no horn, indiscriminately.



Amazing how this vid was left OUT by the OP


I knew someone else would put it in and figured out I was running out of space. It is in the thread, but it still doesn't necessarily prove or disprove anything...


It proves he could have easily left the scene without running into a crowd of people...because he did just that AFTER he ran into the crowd of people.

Your premise is that he did this out of fear of the protesters threatening his life, right?

So why would he willingly drive towards a LARGER group of protesters instead of just leaving?



posted on Aug, 14 2017 @ 02:55 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Edumakated

In this video it looks like no one was around him at the beginning. It appears he headed straight towards a group of people at high speeds, no horn, indiscriminately.



First, not defending anyone. Let's get that out of the way.

A few things that bug me about this is, why did the guy hit the breaks before impact if he wanted to mow down people? Brake lights are lit up in the video thumbnail. Why try to stop if you're trying to kill people?

Look at the people left and right of the street, he could have easily taken out way more with a slight turn of the wheel before the final impact. Hell that dude in New York straight up drove on the sidewalk.

Another thing I noticed is one person ("counter protester" I assume) whacks his car with a bat. Hard to telling from this video but he seems to gun it after that.

Like I said, Not defending anyone, just some things I noticed that don't make sense if this guy was out to kill a bunch of people.

Have the police made a statement about this yet?



posted on Aug, 14 2017 @ 02:56 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

My thoughts exactly. The guy is a fatherless mother-beater Nazi sympathizer and even then the people on the right here on ATS cannot bring themselves to side with the left. That is the power of propaganda. How can we ever be united in this country if people on the right cannot even agree with the left about James Alex Fields let alone stand in a voting booth and vote for Democrat? The right wingers must be so conditioned that the idea of voting for a Democrat in a voting booth would probably make them vomit. It's really amazing how far to the right the people of this country have been conditioned.



posted on Aug, 14 2017 @ 02:56 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Edumakated

Right. You are just arguing from your gut because you want to defend a Nazi. It's plain as day. (go on, keep insulting my intelligence and watch me get nastier).


You are right, I don't have to insult your intelligence. You are doing a good job by yourself. Defend a nazi... funny. Already stated I don't support the guys beliefs but here you are again...



posted on Aug, 14 2017 @ 02:56 PM
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originally posted by: onehuman
a reply to: MotherMayEye
You mentioned the white polo shirt he is wearing in the car. Have you not found it odd he is wearing a black and white shirt in his mugshot?

I think mugshots are taking pretty soon after you come in as part of the booking session. Before you are given prison cloths I think, but may be wrong



It's not some hard and fast rule or law that you don't get changed over before you get your mugshot. So no, it's not remotely odd that his mugshot has him in an inmate shirt.



posted on Aug, 14 2017 @ 02:57 PM
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a reply to: Edumakated

Based on the driver's personal history it's easy to come to the conclusion that he drove his car into the crowd on purpose. Premeditated.



posted on Aug, 14 2017 @ 02:59 PM
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A DOJ investigation has been opened. Their investigation will be thorough and hopefully justice will prevail.

I sure would like to see a visual looking back from the opposite direction. All we have is somebody's phone video of him driving toward a crowd. How do we know what was going on around him just before the impact. How do we know whether or not someone had brandished a gun at him or not. Have you ever looked out at someone pointing the barrel of a gun at you? He could have panicked if he was trying to get away and someone was chasing him.

Maybe there is video from a different vantage point, so we can see who was around his car and what they were doing.



posted on Aug, 14 2017 @ 02:59 PM
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originally posted by: PlasticWizard

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Edumakated

In this video it looks like no one was around him at the beginning. It appears he headed straight towards a group of people at high speeds, no horn, indiscriminately.



First, not defending anyone. Let's get that out of the way.

A few things that bug me about this is, why did the guy hit the breaks before impact if he wanted to mow down people? Brake lights are lit up in the video thumbnail. Why try to stop if you're trying to kill people?

Look at the people left and right of the street, he could have easily taken out way more with a slight turn of the wheel before the final impact. Hell that dude in New York straight up drove on the sidewalk.

Another thing I noticed is one person ("counter protester" I assume) whacks his car with a bat. Hard to telling from this video but he seems to gun it after that.

Like I said, Not defending anyone, just some things I noticed that don't make sense if this guy was out to kill a bunch of people.

Have the police made a statement about this yet?



A+ for you. See how easy this is? You look at the situation and ask questions....

But you will be labeled a nazi sympathizer for daring to question the narrative.



posted on Aug, 14 2017 @ 03:00 PM
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a reply to: PlasticWizard

You don't think the people having a car speeding at them might feel like their lives were threatened and might act back in some way. I would throw something at a car if it nearly mowed me down. The post you were responding to was spot on:

"In this video it looks like no one was around him at the beginning. It appears he headed straight towards a group of people at high speeds, no horn, indiscriminately. "



posted on Aug, 14 2017 @ 03:00 PM
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originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: Edumakated
1) In no way am I supporting Nazi, white nationalists beliefs. For the record, I think they are basement dwelling scum bags.


Without fail, every time I read a disclaimer like this, it is followed by a justification for what they have done.

It's the ole' "I'm not racist but I think the blacks are _______"


What's that saying that keeps popping up on Game of Thrones?

"Everything before the word 'but' is horse#."



posted on Aug, 14 2017 @ 03:01 PM
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originally posted by: CranialSponge
The guy had two full blocks to change his mind and turn down a side street where there were no crowds of people marching.

There's a video showing the car racing down the street for two blocks (where there were no crowds of people marching), flying by side streets (again, where there were no crowds of people marching), and continuing on at high speed until finally plowing into the crowd.

Then the driver slams the car into reverse, and again tromps on the gas fleeing the scene in reverse, far enough back (roughly another 2 blocks back again) to take off down a side street and make his escape.



Why would the driver be scared for his life when he was two blocks away where there were no crowds of people in the area where he originally tromped on the gas pedal to pick up speed ?





please...you're using logic, with actual video proof of what he did with his car.....and the right on ATS can't except that



posted on Aug, 14 2017 @ 03:01 PM
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a reply to: manuelram16




Nazi, Nazi, Nazi..... any swastikas around ???



Yes.




posted on Aug, 14 2017 @ 03:02 PM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: Edumakated
1) In no way am I supporting Nazi, white nationalists beliefs. For the record, I think they are basement dwelling scum bags.


Without fail, every time I read a disclaimer like this, it is followed by a justification for what they have done.

It's the ole' "I'm not racist but I think the blacks are _______"


What's that saying that keeps popping up on Game of Thrones?

"Everything before the word 'but' is horse#."


That was EXACTLY what went through my head when I wrote that!



posted on Aug, 14 2017 @ 03:02 PM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6

Gee, ya think?


However, I am not really buying this guy just decided to randomly run down protesters until presented evidence to show the contrary.


That's what investigations are for.

Personally, I think the video taken from behind that shows him not braking and driving in a straight line towards the crowd is going to be the biggest obstacle for his defense. If he was scared of something that happened why would he drive towards a mass of people down the street instead of backing up away from them when the street was relatively sparsely populated?


That's pretty much it, in fact he was nowhere near any crowd, he was sitting up the hill on the other side of the intersection, the next he came flying down the hill and across that intersection into the street where the protestors were, and drove straight into the crowd in that street, sending them tumbling all over the place.
You can easily see in the picture, people still in the air shoes on the ground, while the car has travelled further on.
(for more detail use the ATS link)

files.abovetopsecret.com...
He then reversed back up that street after the damage was done back over the intersection and on up the hill he was originally parked at
edit on 14-8-2017 by smurfy because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 14 2017 @ 03:03 PM
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originally posted by: queenofswords
A DOJ investigation has been opened. Their investigation will be thorough and hopefully justice will prevail.

I sure would like to see a visual looking back from the opposite direction. All we have is somebody's phone video of him driving toward a crowd. How do we know what was going on around him just before the impact. How do we know whether or not someone had brandished a gun at him or not. Have you ever looked out at someone pointing the barrel of a gun at you? He could have panicked if he was trying to get away and someone was chasing him.

Maybe there is video from a different vantage point, so we can see who was around his car and what they were doing.


It will probably come out at some point. There has to be another video angle. However, it wouldn't surprise me if it never sees light of day if it just happens not to support the narrative.

People are so conditioned, they can't possibly put themselves in the shoes of the driver which is why I posted the motorcycle incident to show people freakout in mob situations. Their personal beliefs are irrelevant.




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