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originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: TownCryer
Of course the nazi's and kkk make themselves look bad. The setup wasn't to make them look bad. The setup was for violence to erupt so they could try to tie trump and his supporters to it.
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
originally posted by: Painterz
Please stop trying to portray nazis and white supremacists as the real victims here, through selective video editing and propaganda.
BLM was there so I guess you must be a black radical communist inciting violence and the death of people based on race and political ideology...
I am certain that there were some "NAZIS" in there, from both sides. But the left has labeled people who lean to the right as "alt-right" or "extremists of the right" even when those people don't support true NAZIS.
Not to mention the fact that it seems that "Jason Kessler" was part of the left until apparently "recently he changed sides"... This dude was even a supporter of Obama in both terms... He has been a journalist and an activist who was involved into the "Occupy movement" of the left. And this is according to the left-wing organization SPLC.
This man even was a CNN Assignment editor.
Back on December 2015, this man wrote in his own blog:
I can't think of any occupation that I admire more than the professional provocateur, who has the courage & self-determination to court controversy despite all slings & arrows of the world.
If you search the above, it will show you as the top result his blog, that now gives a 404 error if you try to get into his blog showing that message he posted.
His views supposedly changed recently, at the end of 2016. He also started the "white supremacist movement" in January 2017. To me this smells of BS, an infiltrated provocateur from the left trying to pose as a white supremacist. He is trying to make it look like the right are all NAZIS, and everyone in the left is buying what this agent provocateur is doing.
It is obvious this man was planted by the left to stir this chaos.
originally posted by: buster2010
a reply to: 4N0M4LY
When it's the left that is causing the problems then it's the lefts fault but when it's the fascist right wingers then both sides are the problem.
originally posted by: dasman888
From world famous Socialist college professor, Noam Chomsky:
YOU are under attack! And your chief enemy, Satan, is using a very dangerous weapon against you. What is it? Propaganda! A weapon specially designed to attack, not your body, but your mind.
The apostle Paul was alert to the danger that satanic propaganda posed, but not all his fellow Christians were. Some in Corinth, for example, had apparently become overconfident—thinking that they were so strong in the truth that they could never fall. (1 Cor. 10:12) That is why Paul gave this warning: “I am afraid that somehow, as the serpent seduced Eve by its cunning, your minds might be corrupted away from the sincerity and the chastity that are due the Christ.”—2 Cor. 11:3.
Paul’s deep concern shows that there is no room for complacency. If you are going to win the battle for your mind, you must recognize the danger that propaganda poses and protect yourself from it.
PROPAGANDA—HOW DANGEROUS IS IT?
What is propaganda? In this context, it is the use of biased or misleading information to manipulate the way people think and act. Some equate propaganda with “lies, distortion, deceit, manipulation, mind control, [and] psychological warfare” and associate it with “unethical, harmful, and unfair tactics.”—Propaganda and Persuasion.
How dangerous is propaganda? It is insidious—like an invisible, odorless, poisonous gas—and it seeps into our consciousness. Because we may not see propaganda for what it is, behavior specialist Vance Packard observed: “Many of us are being influenced and manipulated—far more than we realize.” Under its influence, says one scholar, men and women have been “quite easily led into the most preposterously dangerous behaviour”—such as ‘genocide, war, racist hysteria, religious intolerance and many other forms of irrational behaviour.’—Easily Led—A History of Propaganda.
Now if mere men can fool us with their propaganda, what might Satan be able to do? He has studied human behavior since man was created. “The whole world” now lies in his power. He can use any part of it to disseminate his lies. (1 John 5:19; John 8:44) So effective has Satan been in ‘blinding people’s minds’ that he now ‘misleads the entire inhabited earth.’ (2 Cor. 4:4; Rev. 12:9) How can you resist his propaganda?
BUILD UP YOUR DEFENSES
Jesus gave this simple rule for combating propaganda: “Know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” (John 8:31, 32) But since truth is often the first casualty of war, you—like any other soldier in the heat of battle—need a source of trustworthy, reliable information to prevent the enemy from playing tricks with your mind. Jehovah has provided this. In the pages of the Bible, you can find all you need to combat Satan’s propaganda.—2 Tim. 3:16, 17.
Of course, the great propagandist, Satan, knows this. So he uses his system of things to discourage Bible reading and study. Do not fall for his devious schemes! (Eph. 6:11, ftn.) Become “thoroughly able to comprehend” the full scope of the truth. (Eph. 3:18) That will take real effort on your part. But remember this basic fact expressed by author Noam Chomsky: “Nobody is going to pour truth into your brain. It’s something you have to find out for yourself.” So “find out for yourself” by being diligent in “carefully examining the Scriptures daily.”—Acts 17:11.
To win the battle for your mind, you must recognize the danger that propaganda poses and protect yourself from it.
Keep in mind that Satan does not want you to think clearly or reason things out well. Why? Because propaganda “is likely to be most effective,” says one source, “if people . . . are discouraged from thinking critically.” (Media and Society in the Twentieth Century) So never be content passively or blindly to accept what you hear. (Prov. 14:15) Use your God-given thinking abilities and power of reason to make the truth your own.—Prov. 2:10-15; Rom. 12:1, 2.
BEWARE OF ATTEMPTS TO DIVIDE AND CONQUER
originally posted by: spiritualzombie
Really important we figure this out because we wouldn't want to treat Nazis unfairly. Here's a tip... ANYTIME Nazis show up, and violence ensues... it's the Nazis fault.
originally posted by: CajunMetal
originally posted by: comawhite12
a reply to: Dfairlite
I said the same thing.
It was orchestrated from the beginning when they pushed to have HISTORY deleted. They knew the nazis would come, and they knew they would send their masked minions.
The left's treachery couldn't be more obvious.
WW2 is 'history' but I don't see any monuments to the Wermacht or Hitler's generals in Germany or Hirohito in Japan.
originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
This article by Dr. Steve Pieczenik, describes the two leading personalities very well and reveals how they are, basically both on the same side..
Me I noticed that the "Vice Media" imbedded reporting and videography seemed to be somehow staged and choreographed, not to suggest that the white racists didn't show up and each get their allotted tiki torch, but there was something about it to suggest that their rally and march was meant to be recorded for posterity, with the torches giving it a rather KKK feel to the scene and setting.
Not too hard to dupe a bunch of white supremecists who are blinded by their hatred, and draw them in like filings to a magnet or bees to honey.
Then, in come the Soros-funded Antifa and BLM agitators and activists, who's job it was to provoke a violent backlash.
If so, Trump fell right into the trap by at some level trying to create a sort of level playing field or moral equivalency, even though he's right that the violence came from both sides.
Perhaps he knows but cannot say that it's a far-left, collectivist, social-engineering, Soros-hatched conspiracy and psyop intended to create a race war while dividing Trump's base and knocking a chunk off of it, and by that I'm not referring to the white supremecists.
What I see, given the way the MSM is reporting it, is a CIA/FBI or deep state operation whereby the two main antagonists are both cut from the very same cloth.
The tip of this racial clash was made by design as a political arrow fired Trump's way and by trying to sidestep it, he stepped right into it.
In a way he's functioning as a deflection point of attention while putting everyone on notice that such actions ought not be tolerated from any direction or "side" including the far-left Antifa and BLM racial fascists and radical Agitprop, egged on by the Obama's people the Clinton's people, the DNC and the "ruling political establishment" (including the Republicans) , and the entire MSM or oldstream media.
I should point out that because there was a terrorist incident of sorts, that Trump can go ahead and sick the Investigative Powers of the Government on these white racists groups, not to supress their right to free speech and to assemble, but to keep the SOB's in line to make damn sure that they don't get co-opted by the alt-left activists at any level. No doubt the deep state might then turn around and catch Trump communicating with the Nazis via the likes of paid FBI asset, David Duke, and then it would be over for Trump, so he's got to be careful, but there are ways of communicating with them and asking them not to fall into the trap being set and already sprung.
Trump is probably counting on the radical left to attempt further violence and upheaval, so in a way he hasn't framed it incorrectly, while at the same time condemning all forms of hatred, intolerance, and exclusion including the KKK and neo-Nazis and white nationalists.
They can't say that he hasn't denounced them.
How many times does he have to say it.
I smell a rat, through and through.
originally posted by: SudoNim
Infowars is suddenly deemed a credible source...