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Virginia Was A Setup. Dems Wanted The Violence.

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posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 03:58 AM
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a reply to: CranialSponge

You were so close to figuring out how many five is! One more try maybe?




posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 03:59 AM
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originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: TownCryer

Of course the nazi's and kkk make themselves look bad. The setup wasn't to make them look bad. The setup was for violence to erupt so they could try to tie trump and his supporters to it.


You got it, Dfairlite. It's depressing how few on this thread understood it. Of course, the usual Leftist trolls show up.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 04:06 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: Painterz
Nazi apologist.

Please stop trying to portray nazis and white supremacists as the real victims here, through selective video editing and propaganda.


BLM was there so I guess you must be a black radical communist inciting violence and the death of people based on race and political ideology...

I am certain that there were some "NAZIS" in there, from both sides. But the left has labeled people who lean to the right as "alt-right" or "extremists of the right" even when those people don't support true NAZIS.

Not to mention the fact that it seems that "Jason Kessler" was part of the left until apparently "recently he changed sides"... This dude was even a supporter of Obama in both terms... He has been a journalist and an activist who was involved into the "Occupy movement" of the left. And this is according to the left-wing organization SPLC.

This man even was a CNN Assignment editor.

Back on December 2015, this man wrote in his own blog:


I can't think of any occupation that I admire more than the professional provocateur, who has the courage & self-determination to court controversy despite all slings & arrows of the world.

If you search the above, it will show you as the top result his blog, that now gives a 404 error if you try to get into his blog showing that message he posted.

His views supposedly changed recently, at the end of 2016. He also started the "white supremacist movement" in January 2017. To me this smells of BS, an infiltrated provocateur from the left trying to pose as a white supremacist. He is trying to make it look like the right are all NAZIS, and everyone in the left is buying what this agent provocateur is doing.

It is obvious this man was planted by the left to stir this chaos.



Excellent, ElectricUniverse, it needed to be spelled out for the "conspiracy deniers."



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 04:08 AM
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a reply to: Dfairlite



You were so close to figuring out how many five is! One more try maybe?


*grunt burp grunt grunt*

Dammit, I just can't do it. And I tried so hard pa, I really did.


Time to tear up this Trump University degree....




posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 04:12 AM
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a reply to: CranialSponge

LOL, that was good! Top notch reply!

Star for you




posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 04:14 AM
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a reply to: Dfairlite

I'm here all week.




posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 04:27 AM
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originally posted by: buster2010
a reply to: 4N0M4LY

When it's the left that is causing the problems then it's the lefts fault but when it's the fascist right wingers then both sides are the problem.


Did you see the videos and watch what happened or even investigate this ?
The mayor ordered the police to stand down.
The police ordered the right wingers to leave through a gauntlet of leftist agitators (antifa George Soros operatives).
The leftists came armed with bats and mace and urine and feces.
The video shows the leftists initiating the attacks.
The car was battered by leftists prior to the event. (Might have been trying to escape).
The leader of the right wingers is Jason Kessler, an Obama supporter and Occupy agitator (another paid Soros group).

www.breitbart.com...

A close up of the driver in question during the event does not match the perpetrator mug shot shown in the news.
Local residents were ordered by force of arms to go inside to prevent any eyewitnesses during the capture of the perp.

Does this pass the smell test of an ordinary racist flareup? To me it looks like a total deep state setup and seems consistent with a recent project veritas video showing the DNC planning violence to disrupt Trump. Something they call bird-dogging.

I believe the OP is correct. George Soros is trying regime change tactics against the US. I'm not sure why Trump doesn't arrest him. He is a wanted criminal in several other countries.
edit on 16-8-2017 by SevenThunders because: spelling



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 05:30 AM
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originally posted by: dasman888
From world famous Socialist college professor, Noam Chomsky:
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Winning the Battle for Your Mind

YOU are under attack! And your chief enemy, Satan, is using a very dangerous weapon against you. What is it? Propaganda! A weapon specially designed to attack, not your body, but your mind.

The apostle Paul was alert to the danger that satanic propaganda posed, but not all his fellow Christians were. Some in Corinth, for example, had apparently become overconfident—thinking that they were so strong in the truth that they could never fall. (1 Cor. 10:12) That is why Paul gave this warning: “I am afraid that somehow, as the serpent seduced Eve by its cunning, your minds might be corrupted away from the sincerity and the chastity that are due the Christ.”—2 Cor. 11:3.

Paul’s deep concern shows that there is no room for complacency. If you are going to win the battle for your mind, you must recognize the danger that propaganda poses and protect yourself from it.

PROPAGANDA—HOW DANGEROUS IS IT?

What is propaganda? In this context, it is the use of biased or misleading information to manipulate the way people think and act. Some equate propaganda with “lies, distortion, deceit, manipulation, mind control, [and] psychological warfare” and associate it with “unethical, harmful, and unfair tactics.”—Propaganda and Persuasion.

How dangerous is propaganda? It is insidious—like an invisible, odorless, poisonous gas—and it seeps into our consciousness. Because we may not see propaganda for what it is, behavior specialist Vance Packard observed: “Many of us are being influenced and manipulated—far more than we realize.” Under its influence, says one scholar, men and women have been “quite easily led into the most preposterously dangerous behaviour”—such as ‘genocide, war, racist hysteria, religious intolerance and many other forms of irrational behaviour.’—Easily Led—A History of Propaganda.

Now if mere men can fool us with their propaganda, what might Satan be able to do? He has studied human behavior since man was created. “The whole world” now lies in his power. He can use any part of it to disseminate his lies. (1 John 5:19; John 8:44) So effective has Satan been in ‘blinding people’s minds’ that he now ‘misleads the entire inhabited earth.’ (2 Cor. 4:4; Rev. 12:9) How can you resist his propaganda?

BUILD UP YOUR DEFENSES

Jesus gave this simple rule for combating propaganda: “Know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” (John 8:31, 32) But since truth is often the first casualty of war, you—like any other soldier in the heat of battle—need a source of trustworthy, reliable information to prevent the enemy from playing tricks with your mind. Jehovah has provided this. In the pages of the Bible, you can find all you need to combat Satan’s propaganda.—2 Tim. 3:16, 17.

Of course, the great propagandist, Satan, knows this. So he uses his system of things to discourage Bible reading and study. Do not fall for his devious schemes! (Eph. 6:11, ftn.) Become “thoroughly able to comprehend” the full scope of the truth. (Eph. 3:18) That will take real effort on your part. But remember this basic fact expressed by author Noam Chomsky: “Nobody is going to pour truth into your brain. It’s something you have to find out for yourself.” So “find out for yourself” by being diligent in “carefully examining the Scriptures daily.”—Acts 17:11.

To win the battle for your mind, you must recognize the danger that propaganda poses and protect yourself from it.

Keep in mind that Satan does not want you to think clearly or reason things out well. Why? Because propaganda “is likely to be most effective,” says one source, “if people . . . are discouraged from thinking critically.” (Media and Society in the Twentieth Century) So never be content passively or blindly to accept what you hear. (Prov. 14:15) Use your God-given thinking abilities and power of reason to make the truth your own.—Prov. 2:10-15; Rom. 12:1, 2.

BEWARE OF ATTEMPTS TO DIVIDE AND CONQUER
...


Pillars of culture - Sir Isaac Newton (playlist)
edit on 16-8-2017 by whereislogic because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 01:12 PM
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a reply to: Dfairlite

random vids of crowds...

Police couldnt keep the two groups separated?

Were both groups permitted?

Did the permit allow for bear spray, etc?

Seems like the city messed up bad. Arent they supposed to control assholes?

Why was traffic moving in a crowded area full of groups fighting? No traffic control?

Hard to tell if nazis or others started breaking the law first cause the city #ed up any info or evidence needed.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 02:31 PM
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Really important we figure this out because we wouldn't want to treat Nazis unfairly. Here's a tip... ANYTIME Nazis show up, and violence ensues... it's the Nazis fault.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 03:48 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie
Really important we figure this out because we wouldn't want to treat Nazis unfairly. Here's a tip... ANYTIME Nazis show up, and violence ensues... it's the Nazis fault.


First, only a fraction were nazis or white nationalists. Second way I hear it most had shields and helments, while the other counter protesters came with bats, sticks, bricks, urine containers, etc and started harassing.

The idea that being hate filled means its your fault if someone stabs you or hits you is pure BS. Those who engage in violence are responsible for it.

The idea of using violence to silence the opposition, that's basically what the REAL nazis did.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 05:32 PM
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originally posted by: CajunMetal

originally posted by: comawhite12
a reply to: Dfairlite

I said the same thing.
It was orchestrated from the beginning when they pushed to have HISTORY deleted. They knew the nazis would come, and they knew they would send their masked minions.

The left's treachery couldn't be more obvious.


WW2 is 'history' but I don't see any monuments to the Wermacht or Hitler's generals in Germany or Hirohito in Japan.


I don't don't see any need for the statues anywhere other than battle fields perhaps. You won't find me protesting their removal. I just wonder what the extent of the changes will be. Robert E Lee is an easy mark. Jefferson Davis? Who needs a statue of the traitor around? Roger B. Taney, a U.S. Supreme Court justice from the famed Dred Scott v. Sandford decision though. Is that going a stretch too far? Perhaps not but where do we finally stop? What about the 18 Presidents that were slave owners? Are we going to start blasting faces off of Mt Rushmore?

If anyone wanted to view this with a true conspiracy eye you might be asking if we'll be asked to change other things. The First amendment needs to be changed to eliminate "hate speech" and let's start requiring special permission to peaceably assemble. Second amendment? Merely a ploy to keep some groups armed so they can oppress other groups. Unreasonable search and seizure? Sure but what if you have hate speech material or things we deem bad. Better check everyone for no reason just in case.

I feel like there's far too much insanity on both sides on the issue of the removal of a statue. It seems like falsely propped up rage to bring about changes or add more government control.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 06:09 PM
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a reply to: spiritualzombie

You do realize that's not an actual argument, right? It's a good soundbite but in practice it doesn't and shouldn't work that way.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 08:04 PM
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a reply to: Greven

the point is no sane person just going to oppose does not come armed with hairspray to main and burn other people. regardless of what happens. The couples I spoke of were trying to get away from the radical white supremacist and ended up being told by cops to go that direction they refused and went out the way they came in, when approached by police as they left they showed she was injured and only then let them out the way the entered and they were no racists, bigots, nazis or any other hate group. They were conservatives

remember just because someone says something does not make it the truth. No video evidence of paint cans be thrown from the right. But plenty of video evidence of Antifa leftist throwing thing and spraying the crowd with volatile liquids. Injuring an innocent bystander who was there, not to support these radical rights but the rights of white being trampled on to appease the left. She suffered second degree chemical burn from the left was treated in her hometown of Lynchburg by her private physicians and they have contacted the Virginia state police to file complaints against the leftest protesters who gathered without a permit and started the violence that led to a man ramming his car into a crown of unpermitted counter protesters.


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posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 10:01 PM
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This article by Dr. Steve Pieczenik, describes the two leading personalities very well and reveals how they are, basically both on the same side..

www.infowars.com...

Me I noticed that the "Vice Media" imbedded reporting and videography seemed to be somehow staged and choreographed, not to suggest that the white racists didn't show up and each get their allotted tiki torch, but there was something about it to suggest that their rally and march was meant to be recorded for posterity, with the torches giving it a rather KKK feel to the scene and setting.

Not too hard to dupe a bunch of white supremecists who are blinded by their hatred, and draw them in like filings to a magnet or bees to honey.

Then, in come the Soros-funded Antifa and BLM agitators and activists, who's job it was to provoke a violent backlash.

If so, Trump fell right into the trap by at some level trying to create a sort of level playing field or moral equivalency, even though he's right that the violence came from both sides.

Perhaps he knows but cannot say that it's a far-left, collectivist, social-engineering, Soros-hatched conspiracy and psyop intended to create a race war while dividing Trump's base and knocking a chunk off of it, and by that I'm not referring to the white supremecists.

What I see, given the way the MSM is reporting it, is a CIA/FBI or deep state operation whereby the two main antagonists are both cut from the very same cloth.

www.infowars.com...

The tip of this racial clash was made by design as a political arrow fired Trump's way and by trying to sidestep it, he stepped right into it.

In a way he's functioning as a deflection point of attention while putting everyone on notice that such actions ought not be tolerated from any direction or "side" including the far-left Antifa and BLM racial fascists and radical Agitprop, egged on by the Obama's people the Clinton's people, the DNC and the "ruling political establishment" (including the Republicans) , and the entire MSM or oldstream media.

I should point out that because there was a terrorist incident of sorts, that Trump can go ahead and sick the Investigative Powers of the Government on these white racists groups, not to supress their right to free speech and to assemble, but to keep the SOB's in line to make damn sure that they don't get co-opted by the alt-left activists at any level. No doubt the deep state might then turn around and catch Trump communicating with the Nazis via the likes of paid FBI asset, David Duke, and then it would be over for Trump, so he's got to be careful, but there are ways of communicating with them and asking them not to fall into the trap being set and already sprung.

Trump is probably counting on the radical left to attempt further violence and upheaval, so in a way he hasn't framed it incorrectly, while at the same time condemning all forms of hatred, intolerance, and exclusion including the KKK and neo-Nazis and white nationalists.

They can't say that he hasn't denounced them.

How many times does he have to say it.

I smell a rat, through and through.

Best regards,

Ankh

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posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 04:14 AM
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originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
This article by Dr. Steve Pieczenik, describes the two leading personalities very well and reveals how they are, basically both on the same side..

www.infowars.com...

Me I noticed that the "Vice Media" imbedded reporting and videography seemed to be somehow staged and choreographed, not to suggest that the white racists didn't show up and each get their allotted tiki torch, but there was something about it to suggest that their rally and march was meant to be recorded for posterity, with the torches giving it a rather KKK feel to the scene and setting.

Not too hard to dupe a bunch of white supremecists who are blinded by their hatred, and draw them in like filings to a magnet or bees to honey.

Then, in come the Soros-funded Antifa and BLM agitators and activists, who's job it was to provoke a violent backlash.

If so, Trump fell right into the trap by at some level trying to create a sort of level playing field or moral equivalency, even though he's right that the violence came from both sides.

Perhaps he knows but cannot say that it's a far-left, collectivist, social-engineering, Soros-hatched conspiracy and psyop intended to create a race war while dividing Trump's base and knocking a chunk off of it, and by that I'm not referring to the white supremecists.

What I see, given the way the MSM is reporting it, is a CIA/FBI or deep state operation whereby the two main antagonists are both cut from the very same cloth.

www.infowars.com...

The tip of this racial clash was made by design as a political arrow fired Trump's way and by trying to sidestep it, he stepped right into it.

In a way he's functioning as a deflection point of attention while putting everyone on notice that such actions ought not be tolerated from any direction or "side" including the far-left Antifa and BLM racial fascists and radical Agitprop, egged on by the Obama's people the Clinton's people, the DNC and the "ruling political establishment" (including the Republicans) , and the entire MSM or oldstream media.

I should point out that because there was a terrorist incident of sorts, that Trump can go ahead and sick the Investigative Powers of the Government on these white racists groups, not to supress their right to free speech and to assemble, but to keep the SOB's in line to make damn sure that they don't get co-opted by the alt-left activists at any level. No doubt the deep state might then turn around and catch Trump communicating with the Nazis via the likes of paid FBI asset, David Duke, and then it would be over for Trump, so he's got to be careful, but there are ways of communicating with them and asking them not to fall into the trap being set and already sprung.

Trump is probably counting on the radical left to attempt further violence and upheaval, so in a way he hasn't framed it incorrectly, while at the same time condemning all forms of hatred, intolerance, and exclusion including the KKK and neo-Nazis and white nationalists.

They can't say that he hasn't denounced them.

How many times does he have to say it.

I smell a rat, through and through.

Best regards,

Ankh



This post deserves its own thread. Everyone should be aware of this "agit prop" and that people like David Duke, Richard Spencer, and Michael Signer are FBI & CIA co-opted tools. So fake.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 04:43 AM
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Infowars is suddenly deemed a credible source...



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 04:46 AM
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originally posted by: SudoNim
Infowars is suddenly deemed a credible source...




posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 10:29 AM
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originally posted by: SudoNim
Infowars is suddenly deemed a credible source...


They swing at every pitch. Naturally they're going to have a lot of misses but they have some hits. I wouldn't call them a "credible" source exactly but it is a source of discussion if you make a mental filter of the topic they choose to discussion.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 11:52 AM
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