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Virginia Was A Setup. Dems Wanted The Violence.

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posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 06:09 AM
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a reply to: growler


blm trying to raise awareness

By shooting cops? By assaulting white people? Yeah, I disagree with those tactics.

But I was mostly talking about ANTIFA. Since obama left and stopped backing their hate rallies, BLM hasn't been nearly as violent. ANTIFA has taken up the communist mantle and gone full on violent. Now, they're not nazi's and the nazi's definitely hate them, but they're the same side of the coin.




posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 06:10 AM
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Bull... s%&!...

This site has gone full potato.



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 06:11 AM
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a reply to: LordAhriman

You think it was just a coincidence that they shut down the UTR rally before dispersing the ANTIFA goons waiting at the entrance/exit? Then told the cops to stand down. I have to question your critical thinking abilities if you believe this was just a coincidence.
edit on 15-8-2017 by Dfairlite because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 06:38 AM
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I enjoyed watching the foolishness until that nutcase hit those people with his car. It was a stupid rally anyway but to kill that lady...It's just stupid.



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 06:40 AM
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Oh and last time I checked BLM wasn't even started by black people. I heard it was a front for the LBGT community to use the Black struggle to gain national attention. I'm just sayin...



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 07:38 AM
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originally posted by: ltheghost
Oh and last time I checked BLM wasn't even started by black people. I heard it was a front for the LBGT community to use the Black struggle to gain national attention. I'm just sayin...


that's crazy talk son



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 07:52 AM
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Well the ACLU seems to think there was a set up.
The ACLU......
www.breitbart.com...


It is the responsibility of law enforcement to ensure safety of both protesters and counter-protesters. The policing on Saturday was not effective in preventing violence. I was there and brought concerns directly to the secretary of public safety and the head of the Virginia State Police about the way that the barricades in the park limiting access by the arriving demonstrators and the lack of any physical separation of the protesters and counter-protesters on the street were contributing to the potential of violence. They did not respond. In fact, law enforcement was standing passively by, seeming to be waiting for violence to take place, so that they would have grounds to declare an emergency, declare an ‘unlawful assembly’ and clear the area.


So when one of the lefts most trusted allies is calling this behavior out how can the left not?
But hey what should we expect when the state is run by a clinton lap dog. This could very well end his political career.



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 08:43 AM
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a reply to: Dfairlite

Of course it was a set up. The ONLY way Nazis can look bad is if someone else makes them look bad, right? Left on their own Nazis are known to spread peace and harmony, especially among minorities. Basically, Nazis do for people all the time that which Santa Claus does only one day a year.

Set up, my a$$. The ignorance, hatred and violence, preached by the intellectually challenged Alt-Right AHs does not need a 'set-up'. They go out of their way, or in this case travel long distances, to embrace it. And when a whole bunch of those morons get together, the first thing they want to do is try to show who's the toughest, who hates others the most, who's the whitest. And of course, when cowards get together they get brave, especially when carrying clubs - pu$$ys! The scum of our society does need to be 'set-up' to spread their filth. Like any disease, it spreads out on it's own. These domestic terrorist ought to rounded up, (we have them on video tape - search them out and arrest them), and sent to where we send international terrorists - Guantanamo. Let them sit there and rot away.

Trump, and his kids, his racdist ways, his Alt-Right supporters, are TRASH !
Worst! 'president'! EVER !!



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 08:49 AM
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a reply to: TownCryer

So the ACLU is wrong?
It is not the city/states responsibility to keep its citizens safe?



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 08:59 AM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
Well the ACLU seems to think there was a set up.
The ACLU......
www.breitbart.com...


It is the responsibility of law enforcement to ensure safety of both protesters and counter-protesters. The policing on Saturday was not effective in preventing violence. I was there and brought concerns directly to the secretary of public safety and the head of the Virginia State Police about the way that the barricades in the park limiting access by the arriving demonstrators and the lack of any physical separation of the protesters and counter-protesters on the street were contributing to the potential of violence. They did not respond. In fact, law enforcement was standing passively by, seeming to be waiting for violence to take place, so that they would have grounds to declare an emergency, declare an ‘unlawful assembly’ and clear the area.


So when one of the lefts most trusted allies is calling this behavior out how can the left not?
But hey what should we expect when the state is run by a clinton lap dog. This could very well end his political career.


I do believe that the leadership of the town wanted violence to erupt so that they could shut this assembly down.

They didn't want to allow the rally to begin with, and when they were legally forced to, I believe they thought "Well then fine, we will let these people start fighting and shut it down then"

I believe the polices strange behavior of not only allowing violence, but directing protestors into the path of the counter protestors is best explained by my above conclusion. Why else would they do that?

Now none of this exxcusses anyone who committed violence, especially the man who murdered a lady. They are all responible for their own actions.

But if the leadership of the town instructed police to leave violence happen, they have blood on their hands too.

It seems as if the ACLU feels thaat way too.



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 09:01 AM
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originally posted by: Perfectenemy

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Perfectenemy

It's called an observation. I'm allowed to make them and by suggesting that there may be members who frequent the Daily Stormer in addition to ATS doesn't attack or demean the entire ATS community. It's a simple case of, "if it doesn't apply to you then I wasn't talking about you." Seriously, why are you so triggered over this? I was joking when I insinuated your reaction earlier, but its weird how personal you are taking that original comment.


Well i'm witnessing an increase of comments accusing members outright of being secret Nazis but there was never any indication for that in the first place. Throwing unfounded accusations around can easily backfire if you're not careful. I thought ATS members were above that kindergarten bull#.



Krazyshot consistently has shown that kindergarten side. Never see much contribution other than trolling and twisting words of others and his own when it backfires on him.
ATS should have age restrictions lol



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 09:02 AM
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originally posted by: Catscratch

originally posted by: Perfectenemy

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Perfectenemy


Well i'm witnessing an increase of comments accusing members outright of being secret Nazis but there was never any indication for that in the first place. Throwing unfounded accusations around can easily backfire if you're not careful. I thought ATS members were above that kindergarten bull#.



Krazyshot consistently has shown that kindergarten side. Never see much contribution other than trolling and twisting words of others and his own when it backfires on him.
ATS should have age restrictions lol



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 09:18 AM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Dfairlite

Get all your "virtue signalling" out in one post I guess.


Neither side was innocent here. UTR definitely reacted to the violence with violence.


Right, the neo-Nazis were only "reacting." Were they only "reacting" when they surrounded a small group of UVA protesters Friday night, wouldn't let them leave and closed in on them, resulting in a big brawl? And keep in mind, these weren't Black Block Antifa activists, these were mostly just college kids.





Neo Nazi's and the KKK are just as scummy as the fascists that make up ANTIFA and BLM.


What you're doing here is pretty clear: you'll admit that a bunch of Nazis congregating on a college town with torches, chanting Nazi slogans and running down innocent people in the street are bad — but ONLY in the context of painting the opposing groups as worse and blaming "the Left" and painting them as "victims" of a "Dem setup."

And, HUH?

Antifa aren't Democrats. By and large, they are anarchists. They don't vote Democrat because... they don't vote. They don't have any party affiliation. Meanwhile, the neo-Nazis not only vote, they can't stop talking about how they voted for Trump.

I don't support Antifa. I'm not an anarchist and I don't support people being violent political hooligans. But are they actually "just as scummy" as the KKK and neo-Nazis? No. As movements/groups go, how many Americans have been murdered by Antifa activists? Can you name one? How many Americans have been murdered by the KKK and neo-Nazi groups?


not all of the people who showed up to UTR were Naz's/KKK members. There's a reason they used the name 'unite the right' for their rally.


They called it "Unite the Right" because they're trying to mainstream Nazism and Nazi-like ideology. Perhaps you could give some estimate of what percentage in attendance weren't from Vanguard America, TWP, Identity Evropa, NSM, etc? Were the remainder Proud Boys?


ANTIFA showed up with bottles of cement, balloons with urine, tear gas, and smoke bombs. I wonder who planned and bankrolled that?


And what did the neo-Nazi scum show up with? Good intentions? Why do you continue to deny the role of these groups in violent clashes? They're not victims who are "reacting" to Antifa, these groups and the Antifa groups are showing up and mutually engaging in clashes.






They've been doing it all along while folks like you continue to ignore that across the line from the Antifa are neo-Nazis. You haven't denounced them, you're not doing it here and if you look around, there are posters on ATS who venerate these thugs as "patriots" and heroes. (Like Kyle Chapman aka "Based Stickman") Do you see a lot of Leftists on ATS venerating the bike-lock asshole? No.

Are you going to opine over who "planned and bankrolled" all of that?


This whole thing is a divide and conquer tactic and it's just such an interesting coincidence that this all happened on George Soros' birthday (Aug 12, 1930). It's a setup, people. Condemn the violence on both sides and they (TPTB) lose.


But of course. Soros! Soros! Soros! Because people don't engage in political violence unless... Soros! Because Soros? Amirite?

Clearly Bannon and Robert Mercer bankrolled the neo-Nazis. I don't have any proof of that but since we're just making baseless allegations, why not? Right?


All you do is roll with one side...a side that does not even exist.

Frankly you seem like a former genius who thought he was invincible and got taken down by a teammate.

And you had to delude yourself that you know who the baddies are...like a college professor.

One who wishes for it all too go away but has NO IDEA in the world how to do it so supports the fanatics and bashes anyone who dares go against his Nazi overlords.

They took the name and spun it again...now you are all spun and frankly worse than a waste of time.

You have become one with the Empire...the one the Jedi are coming to destroy.



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 09:31 AM
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originally posted by: eNumbra

originally posted by: 4N0M4LY

originally posted by: dreamingawake

originally posted by: 4N0M4LY

originally posted by: buster2010
a reply to: 4N0M4LY


Yeah but ANTIFA must be the good guys right?

Who started the problems oh yeah the Nazis did.


Leftist apologist.

Nazi apologist.


Until you all see that both sides are the problem.

When it's the left that is causing the problems then it's the lefts fault but when it's the fascist right wingers then both sides are the problem.


Seems like you have personal issues and like to think this event was a special case. It is not. No different than when the leftist extremists recorded themselves picking on average citizens showing patriotism or just attacking people minding their own business or staging violent protests and harming people attending a political event to support their candidate. You can be all PC about it if you want, I call it like I see it.


You realize the "Nazi side" was staging a violent protest because of their permit being initially shot down. See the video I shared.

These guys are NOT innocent folks, no matter which way you try to paint them for your own PC and free speech "concerns".


People need to learn to tolerate other peoples opinions, ignorant or otherwise. Everyone is entitled to it, whether you like it or not. Nothing gives anyone the right to be harmed or killed for what they believe in.

Everyone has their right to speech and the government has not yet and did not over the course of this weekend curtail any of it.

But you're asking people to tolerate nazis.


You don't even know.

Who or what Nazi's are.

These people are nothing but feel free too attack them.

We will attack YOU now...since you all appear to need it.

All bullies time is up...no discrimination here.

Do not cry for forgiveness when we ask your soul if you ACTUALLY knew the truth...



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 09:34 AM
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originally posted by: ParasuvO

originally posted by: eNumbra

originally posted by: 4N0M4LY

originally posted by: dreamingawake

originally posted by: 4N0M4LY

originally posted by: buster2010
a reply to: 4N0M4LY


Yeah but ANTIFA must be the good guys right?

Who started the problems oh yeah the Nazis did.


Leftist apologist.

Nazi apologist.


Until you all see that both sides are the problem.

When it's the left that is causing the problems then it's the lefts fault but when it's the fascist right wingers then both sides are the problem.


Seems like you have personal issues and like to think this event was a special case. It is not. No different than when the leftist extremists recorded themselves picking on average citizens showing patriotism or just attacking people minding their own business or staging violent protests and harming people attending a political event to support their candidate. You can be all PC about it if you want, I call it like I see it.


You realize the "Nazi side" was staging a violent protest because of their permit being initially shot down. See the video I shared.

These guys are NOT innocent folks, no matter which way you try to paint them for your own PC and free speech "concerns".


People need to learn to tolerate other peoples opinions, ignorant or otherwise. Everyone is entitled to it, whether you like it or not. Nothing gives anyone the right to be harmed or killed for what they believe in.

Everyone has their right to speech and the government has not yet and did not over the course of this weekend curtail any of it.

But you're asking people to tolerate nazis.


You don't even know.

Who or what Nazi's are.

These people are nothing but feel free too attack them.

We will attack YOU now...since you all appear to need it.

All bullies time is up...no discrimination here.

Do not cry for forgiveness when we ask your soul if you ACTUALLY knew the truth...


No, attacking others is not the answer. Don't engage in this insanity or there will be no winner.

Believe it or not, the tide is turning, and these extremists are being outed for what they are. Using violence only makes people sympathetic to their cause.



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 09:36 AM
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originally posted by: eNumbra

originally posted by: 4N0M4LY

originally posted by: eNumbra

originally posted by: 4N0M4LY

originally posted by: dreamingawake

originally posted by: 4N0M4LY

originally posted by: buster2010
a reply to: 4N0M4LY


Yeah but ANTIFA must be the good guys right?

Who started the problems oh yeah the Nazis did.


Leftist apologist.

Nazi apologist.


Until you all see that both sides are the problem.

When it's the left that is causing the problems then it's the lefts fault but when it's the fascist right wingers then both sides are the problem.


Seems like you have personal issues and like to think this event was a special case. It is not. No different than when the leftist extremists recorded themselves picking on average citizens showing patriotism or just attacking people minding their own business or staging violent protests and harming people attending a political event to support their candidate. You can be all PC about it if you want, I call it like I see it.


You realize the "Nazi side" was staging a violent protest because of their permit being initially shot down. See the video I shared.

These guys are NOT innocent folks, no matter which way you try to paint them for your own PC and free speech "concerns".


People need to learn to tolerate other peoples opinions, ignorant or otherwise. Everyone is entitled to it, whether you like it or not. Nothing gives anyone the right to be harmed or killed for what they believe in.

Everyone has their right to speech and the government has not yet and did not over the course of this weekend curtail any of it.

But you're asking people to tolerate nazis.


They aren't committing crimes? Are they threatening to kill or hurt you? If they were, obviously there are law enforcement entities able to investigate and prosecute.

So what? I have to tolerate socialist and communist wannabes to? Your point? You don't see me freaking out about it. These groups have existed for decades.
1, The nazis have a very specific ideology that preaches hate, violence, and societal domination. 2, the first amendment protects you from the government, private citizens don't have to tolerate anything, private citizens have the same right to counter protest and tell the nazis to # off. 3, if nazis have the right to be intolerant, does everyone else not have the same right to be intolerant? Why do we have to tolerate intolerance?

If ISIS sympathizers march down the street tomorrow, if Pro-North Korean marchers took to the streets, you, I, and everyone has the right to exercise our opinions on them the way they exercise theirs on the rest of us.

You don't have to tolerate someone who doesn't tolerate you, you've every right to tell them to get lost.


So does everyone else.

And noone has to tolerate your intolerance towards intolerance then either...especially considering you never go for the real reasons the world is slave-controlled.

So well meaning and yet you make it worse cause you believe they are your true enemy.

Boring, and dangerous are the brainwashed combatants..but only too themselves.



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 09:51 AM
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originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: Dfairlite

Nazis should be fought where ever they spread their ideas.

Nazis have no place in America.


Why not all the other scum like gangs...corruption...Race based groups.

The media has no place in America.

Time to focus on all the other scum..the FILTH that is hiding behind the fake Nazis who have all of your attention.

Wake up and go to sleep.



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 09:56 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Dfairlite

Which side drove a car into the other? They are the side that needs denouncing. End of story.


Oh more enlightenment from an anarchist who wants to feel better.

This is not a story..or a play.

Antagonists will be met with worse punishments than those who finally reacted.

And now the left are ALL of those antagonizing.

You have taken it full steam and strive yearningly for death.

And so since you follow the scripts of death that is just what you will get, isn't it.



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 09:58 AM
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originally posted by: Mikehawk
a reply to: Dfairlite



Virginia Was A Setup. Dems Wanted The Violence.


Sounds like what a rapist would say about his victim.


You sound like the judge who lets the rapist go free after 3 months cause he was a troubled child.



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 10:01 AM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

Hilarious! I'd bet a fortune you never invoked the ACLU previously in your life. So, Breitbart telling you the ACLU is suing the VA police for not providing enough protection means, to you, that the Nazi's were setup? How were they setup? They chose to travel to the 'rally'. They chose to take weapons with them. They chose to yell inciting rhetoric, designed to provoke. Then, one of the Nazis drove his car into a crowd of people, simply because those people weren't also Nazis. No setup. The Nazi's planned to go to VA to cause trouble. Mission accomplished. They should be rooted out and punished in a traditional Nazi manner. I'm sure they'd love it.




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